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What Kurt Bills wants to do to Obamacare (viewer discretion advised)

Kurt Bills, the Repub endorsee for the U.S. Senate from Minnesota, doesn't just want to repeal Obama. In his latest update to supporters, here's what he said he wanted to do to the law.

"Folded, stapled, spindled, shredded, and then incinerated. Then the ashes can be swept into the dustbin of history, where all bad ideas eventually go to die. That’s what I plan to do to the Obamacare law once I get elected to the Senate.........  After I vote to repeal it.

Obamacare started as a bad idea, and then got infinitely worse once the horse-trading started in Congress. And despite the thousands of pages of written law, hundreds of thousands more have yet to be written up by the bureaucrats who will administer this travesty.

Philip Klein of The American Spectator counted 700 references in Obamacare to the secretary 'shall,' 200 to the secretary 'may,' and 139 to the secretary 'determines.' That secretary, by the way, is not the nice lady at the front desk, but Kathleen Sibelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services.

That is over 1000 shalls, mays, and determines for a bureaucrat to define.

Obamacare is one of the greatest assaults on American freedoms in modern history. When the British invaded Washington in 1814, they only burned the White House, Capitol, and a few other buildings then left. 

With Obamacare, a bureaucrat will be occupying your doctor’s offices for the rest of your life; and not even have the good grace to leave after trashing the place. Unless we repeal it. Amy Klobuchar won’t; I will.

Last week’s Supreme Court decision was a travesty. I respect the Court and its decisions, but I am outraged that the Chief Justice decided to essentially rewrite the law in order to declare it constitutional. By declaring the mandate a tax, he abandoned judicial restraint and devalued the meaning of the Constitution.

But the decision does make one thing clear: not only did Amy Klobuchar vote to take away your health care freedom, she also voted for the most massive tax increase since the establishment of the income tax."

 

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Quelle Surprise!

Of course Kurt Bills is going to dislike Obamacare. Republicans are required by Rush to dislike anything and everything the President does. That comes as no surprise.

It should also come as no surprise that Mr. Bills does not mention was his alternative plan is. Would he care to explain his plans for health care reform? I'm guessing no, because he has none. His ideas go no further than rehashing a few basic talking points, and dumbing them down even further for the unwashed masses (should we be insulted that he feels he has to explain who the "Secretary" is?).

There is also the matter of the overheated rhetoric. Really, Mr. Bills, did you not get the memo from the boys over at PowerLine about responding in a dignified manner? Even so, no surprise there.

The real surprise is that someone who would put out such an incoherent communiqué is entrusted with teaching (I almost said "educating") impressionable young people. Is Mr. Bills running for the Senate out of fear that higher standards for teachers could put him out of a job?

I agree with Mr Bills.

Single-payer insurance would be much, much simpler.

Not surprising

I've covered Bills when he was a state legislator and while I believe he's sincere, he seems genetically incapable of speaking in anything but cliches. Or answering follow-up questions.

Kurt Bills wants to deny health care to millions of families

Even more clear is that Kurt Bills wants to deny health care to millions of American families. He apparently also prefers that corporate bureaucrats remain firmly entrenched between patients and doctors. But I will give him this - it does seem he's getting much better at regurgitating talking points.

Next thing you know the Republican platform is going to include something about not teaching our children critical thinking skills. Oh wait, they already did that in Texas...

Comic relief

Nice to have some.
He's still the best thing that's happened to the Democratic party.

Mr. Bills…

is giving too many people who already despise the notion of public education too many reasons to continue bashing teachers. Most of what he’s been quoted as saying is, to put it as gracefully as I can, stupid. It seems apparent that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, so I’m going to try to help.

Go to this web address, Mr. Bills, and take the quiz. Then – no matter how many of the 10 questions you got right or wrong – READ, slowly and carefully, the explanation for the correct answer to each and every question.

http://healthreform.kff.org/quizzes/health-reform-quiz.aspx

Nice Quiz - Got a 100% correct

and I still don't like the law. The problem with the quiz is it's filled up with intentions rather than results. The current healthcare system is overwhelmed with issues that make it inefficient and over-priced. The ACA fixed zero of that, and most likely will make it worse. Fundamentally we have a problem with irresponsibility. Why are forced to support people who will not take responsibility for their own health? This is only going to get worse under ACA. My wife spends all day working with people who have diabetes and won't even switch to drinking diet soda. Our hospitals are filled with smokers who's bodies are falling apart in a thousand different ways and they spend every other week in the hospital. No tobacco tax covers the vast effect this has on our healthcare. And nothing in any healthcare law penalizes people for taking zero initiative to help themselves.

Here is my prediction for the ACA's affect, not much will change, we'll see some improvement with the lower class dealing with health care costs. This will be balanced by lack of care from increased wait times. Overall the cost of healthcare will keep rising and soon the 400% poverty level limit will have to be increased because the higher middle class won't be able to afford insurance. Insurance companies and drug companies will continue to do well, and nothing will get better because neither party will talk about the real issues with healthcare.

The only good thing I can see coming is maybe more preventative care will help alleviate emergent situations... I hope this is the case.

I agree . . . . .

that we need to have more substantial discussions about the issues contributing to the healthcare crisis in this country. Others agree, too:

http://www.minnpost.com/macro-micro-minnesota/2012/07/why-americans-want...

Problem is - as I said in my reply there - that such discussions end up getting twisted into things like the hysterical cry of "Death Panels!" which breeds disinformation and chokes off all hope for getting anywhere in realistically evaluating the situation and exploring the possible solutions.

There will be no perfect solution. But what we have been doing so far hasn't been working very well (as you noted in your comment). At least the ACA represents an intention to try something else.

Ideally, in time we will continue to improve those aspects that are working well and modify or eliminate those that aren't. Of course, that can't happen either unless we can have rational discussions about both types of outcomes.

Let's hope that in the coming years the hysteria will eventually die down and permit a reasonable and reasoned evaluation of how things are going.

The thought that any government aspect might be eliminated

Is very amusing. Once started, government programs just keep going, and going, and going. Kudos to using the word "ideally".

Hmmmmmm . . . .

Bringing up the military again, are we?

Talk about a government program that just keeps going, and going, and going!

I suppose

Even though as a percentage of the total budget military spending has actually decreased I can see where maybe we should just eliminate it.

I was thinking more along the lines of farm subsidies, oil subsidies, "temporary tax cuts", and stuff like that. Or "temporary" student loan rates, "temporary" social security payment deferral, or any of the multiple programs that our own government said were overlapping each other.

But at least we agree that once in, it ain't going anywhere!

Oh - and by the way . . . . . . .

Please provide a cite for your statement that "as a percentage of the total budget military spending has actually decreased".

Thank you.

The Ultimate Ideology

Rather than listen to Kurt Bills ramble on about things he doesn't understand, I think the Democrats should pass a Constitutional Amendment to purge all Repubs from the voter rolls. We shouldn't let the uninformed, low-information, non-critical thinkers taint the election results with votes that are driven by archaic ideas, incoherent rants, tired clichés, and homilies about the evils of government regulation.

If they have no critical thinking skills, they should lose the right to vote.

What?

He supplanted Michele?

I've got to admit, he's right up there in the "who need facts when you can make stuff up" factor, and his ability to make outrageous statement seems a skill set well developed, but, he has a ways to go to reach "our favorite Congresswoman's level.

Come November it's Amy in a rout. I'm not saying, just saying.

No solution because No problem???

Someone needs to take Mr. Bills aside and teach him that overblown rhetoric and non-factual statements are not a substitute for legitimate criticism or of much assistance in finding solutions to problem.
Mr. Bills may deny we have a health care problem in this Country and use that as an excuse for his failure to offer solutions, but that's not real world thinking, especially for a US Senate candidate.

Kurt Bills

Bills is a great example of why older long time Republicans like myself are leaving the party and mostly becoming independent. Bills has said what he will do to ObamaCare, but he must think we are all going to fall for his rhetoric and assume he has something better, when in fact he doesn't. The GOP is treating people like we are stupid. We are not, we want to know in great detail what you are going to replace Obamacare with, how much it is going to cost and how it will be done. The state GOP is the same way. I ask over 16 different GOP senators how the Voter ID bill work and how much it will cost, and I ask for detail. All I got was details will be worked out later. I wasn't born yesterday and I am not going to vote for a pin in a poke, give me the facts in detail or I don't vote for it.

Gibberish!

Mr. BIlls may be able to get away spewing ill-informed nonsense in a high school classroom but informed voters and the press are going to demanding a good deal more reasoned analysis of issues like health care - which he may not be capable of doing.

No one seems to think the Affordable Care Act is perfect and almost everyone has found parts of it that they dislike or disagree with. But, using language like "Obamacare is one of the greatest assaults on American freedoms in modern history" and "with Obamacare, a bureaucrat will be occupying your doctor’s offices for the rest of your life" clearly demonstrates that Mr. Bills has no idea what he is talking about and would rather use cheap rhetoric rather than thoughtful, informed criticism.

The republicans have heard their marching orders

Two or three months ago Rush Limbaugh issued the republican marching orders. He said they must keep the "Fear and Anger" going. Just like lock stepped soldiers that is all they are doing, keeping the "Fear and Anger" going. The republicans don't have any solutions. All they were ordered to do was keep the "Fear and Anger" going. When Limbaugh or Norquist speak, neither of which are elected to anything, the republican troops, who are unable to think on their own, fall in line. It has to be tough to be a republican when their "sky" is continually falling because they are believing their own "Fear and Anger" rhetoric.

Bill's Sponsors

Clearly, Bills does not work for human beings, unless those humans are fronts for corporate agendas. We already have someone worthless mucking around in the person pof michelle bachmann. We don't need Bills, we need real humans, with human concerns.

Perfect for today being july 4th and all

All these people on here saying how republicans are bad and saying all bad about this is obamacare that's true. I'm 23 almost 24 growing up listening to all you elder people who are all for being a bunch of wimps and saying how we need to destroy freedoms. Yes that is true destroying freedoms brought upon by out independence day and with our constitution. But the most disturbing is you sit idly by watching these freedoms be taken away by our current president. He hasn't followed anything that is supposed to be done for instance I would like to say that the attack that took out osama bin laden was completely illegal. There was no say for us to go into Pakistan and do a covert operation. I'm sure if any republican had done this it would of been trashed. Yes it's a great thing that he was taken out as far as the general media knows. Another thing is everyone does not want to have to pay for healthcare which isn't a right or a need. I have medical bills and haven't had insurance you just pay them like you would your credit card or cell phone bill. But forcing people to have to pay for something they don't want is wrong. That's like me walking in your house taking a shower because I guess I have a right to shower wherever I want whenever I want. Than we also have illegals getting these benefits. I understand helping people on your free will but forcing people doesn't make anyone feel good in the end. Another thing is why did we fight for our independence to begin with? So that we didn't have that leader telling us what to do. We have a lot of these plastic christians out there saying how they go to church and are all godly well we have people being sued for hosting bible study in there backyard. That's getting ridiculous and maybe everyone here who loves the United States of America has got to go back and look at what made the US and learn the truth behind it all not just say we're free because you guys who believe your doing right, look how much freedoms have actually been taken away. From when you were kids- now and what your doing for your kids that you think is right but someone gets hurt it's the end of the world. Truth is if the government could do all it could do they would just force us to work for free to get all the money earned. None of the politicians in the higher offices care except for what they're making. So remember we have lower and upper class seen nobody cares about middle class it's all about hurting it. But I hope everyone can sleep good and remember taking freedoms away never helped a government with there people. But thank you all for messing up my future and all the other people in my generation and younger we will have to fix your screw ups and I hope we do. Happy 4th of July

Forcing people to have to pay for something they don't want

That is what happens in a representative democracy, Mr. Anderson. My taxes go for a lot of things I personally do not want, but that does not mean my freedom is diminshed.

"I have medical bills and haven't had insurance you just pay them like you would your credit card or cell phone bill." Good luck with that. You are in your early twenties, which is a particularly healthy time for most of us. Wait until you start needing more. Better still, wait until you have children. Try paying the medical bills like you would your credit card or cell phone bill.

"NO" way to run a country

You missed the era where Americans actually worked together solving our country's problems. You can't run a country where the only answer the other side has is "NO". "NO" new ideas beyond failed talking points. "NO" one is thinking for themselves. They have to sign pledges, generated by those who were not elected to anything, to remain politically pure whether it is good for our country or not. "NO" comingling of ideas and compromising to come up with the best answer for "all", not just the answer for a select few. You missed the era where George W. Bush started his term with a huge budget surplus. Bush also commanded the US into two wars and got Medicare Part D approved without paying for a single cent of any of it. You missed the era where it was one voter, one vote, which is contrary to today where some of the wealthy get two votes, once with their money and the other vote in November. Which vote do you think has the most impact? You missed the era where it wasn't 365/24/7 campaigning. There was actually time to do the people's work. You missed the era where flip flopping just to oppose the other side, even if it was your idea first, wasn't politically fashionable. So far you have missed the best of America and you are right that the country is majorly screwed up. When people pulled together, you didn't feel like freedoms were taken away because we all worked together. November will be a good time for the voters to try to route out those who are not willing to work together and get America back to its best, once again.

gov't. health care

Not that Mr. Bills has a snowball's chance in November, but I'm eagerly awaiting his pledge not to take the Senate's taxpayer-funded health insurance and buy his own on the private market.

No chance of winning? Too bad.

Because sending Bills to the Senate would let his students find out what it's like to have an economics teacher who isn't an ignorant crank.

Interesting

Sending Bills to the Senate would stop him from being an ignorant crank?

I love it actually

The Republicans are making repealing the health care law their major issue, and it's a dud. I just don't see any clear majority of Americans jumping on that bandwagon. If the Democrats don't blow it again with incompetent responses this story has no legs. In my lifetime I've never seen a Republican agenda with a serious idea of any kind, just a bunch of stuff their afraid of. This issue is beyond lame, I just don't see it as a national rallying cry of any merit no matter how many spooky commercials they run, or how much misinformation they pump out. I think a lot of people are beginning to realize that Republicans are just not reliable sources of idea and information.

I know some people around here think Republicans have "won" arguments, but the fact they're wrong and have been wrong about everything from free markets to climate change, and I think it's catching up to them.

When did this sort of

Now that the ACA's constitutionality has been upheld, President Obama and Democrats in general need to come out strongly touting its benefits.It shouldn't be that tough: "Here's what health care reform will do to help you and your family:a, b,c, d "

I agree with the New York Times editorial yesterday that the Democrats are strangely silent, while the airwaves are dominated by this kind of "biggest tax increase in the history of the universe" nonsense. They cannot afford to repeat the mistakes of 2009, when the Tea Party was allowed to frame the whole conversation about health care reform. The Democrats can't let them get away with that again.

There are very real advantages to this bill for all Americans, imperfect though it may be. DEMOCRATS OWN IT, so they had darn well better embrace it. I have always believed that the reason for the hysterical opposition to health care reform on the right is that it will be very popular once it is fully implemented and the GOP fears the electoral advantage this will give Democrats.
This is why they are hell-bent on stopping it, via either court action (now dead in the water) or repeal, before it gets started.

Oops

My comment submitted before it was ready (dang this oversensitive laptop)

My first paragraph was supposed to read: When did this sort of ludicrous hyperbole and over-heated rhetoric become acceptable in American politics? This isn't analysis or reasoned opposition, it's nothing but a series of deeply misleading talking points designed to trigger fear and anxiety rather than any rational response.

There.

Wow

Rational response?
Our nations debt is approaching imaginary numbers. Rational response?
The director of the CBO is the only one making any rational response.
We have a choice of large taxes increases to pay for what we are used to, or cutting big entitlement programs, or a combination.
That is the only rational direction.

Here.

Entitlement programs?

You mean, like the military?

Approaching imaginary numbers

An imaginary number is the square root of a negative number.

I think you need a different adjective.

Strangely silent

The Democrats are once again figuring out how to pull defeat out of the jaws of victory. I'm seeing all kinds of good stuff about the health care benefits on Face Book and nothing but Republican fear mongering on TV. It's sooooo disappointing. Even when they win they lose.

Just because one person said it...

Doesn't make it true. The whole "strangely silent" thing, that is.

Number one, not all the Democrats in this country hang out at the capitol. Voters aren't being silent. You spend a significant amount of time writing a blog and commenting on news articles, right? You're not silent. Voters are probably the most important voices out there. The blogosphere and social media sites are noisy with Democrats "saying something." Even just daily interactions with people will tell you that no one's "strangely silent." TV isn't the only source of news, and it's becoming less and less relevant, as it's more about entertainment than "news." Although TV is still an important source of news, Americans are trending toward the internet for news (http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2011/01/11/more-americans-get-the...). And you have to wonder how much they take away from each source, as well.

Number two, repeating what one person says without bothering objectively determine whether it's true is foolish. Tut tut, Mr. Udstrand. You're too smart and savvy to fall for that one. You're believing what they want you to believe. Worse yet, you're passing it on as fact. Democrat voters/supporters are often their own worst enemy. The best way to pull defeat out of the jaws of victory is have your "supporters" predicting it. Republicans don't do that. The hive mind won't let them. If a win is possible, they'll snatch it out of the hands of the ever-morose Democrat voters. What a bunch of sad sacks. Why did America vote for Change and Hope? Probably because they were tired of being so freaking depressed. Feel free to be critical, but it's self defeating to be so, well, self defeating.

"NO" way to run a country

Jeremy
i recommend you read the MinnPost piece on analyzing the Affordable Care Act. You could try Factcheck.org and an article in Forbes' (That really radical left magazine for business) on the ACA. Just drop the hysteria, please.