The Vikings stadium bill is becoming a primer in the legislative process for all those people who didn’t pay attention during their high-school civics class.
Among other things, the ongoing stadium debate is offering Capitol onlookers a refresher course in several political realities — that no legislative committee is necessarily benign, that there’s no free ride for controversial legislation and that things aren’t always what they seem.
And we’re seeing that legislators can oppose the very things they support — and that fiery television interviews can force leaders to take actions they don’t want to take.
Through it all, though, students of Minnesota legislative politics are seeing the importance of staying calm in the midst of political storms.
Take, for example, Sen. Julie Rosen, R-Fairmont, the Senate lead on the stadium bill.
She clearly was blindsided Wednesday by Sen. Sean Nienow, R-Cambridge, when he offered an amendment that would replace charitable gambling (electronic pull-tabs) with racinos as the state’s funding source for its share of the stadium.
Nienow, a stadium foe, clearly was attempting to strangle the whole stadium deal with the amendment.
Amendments meant to kill bill
The move came at the end of a Senate Finance Committee meeting that ran for more than six hours. It followed maneuvers by another Republican foe of the measure, Sen. David Hann of Eden Prairie, who tried to throw up all sorts of other roadblocks that would have killed the deal.
Hann’s efforts failed, but the Nienow amendment succeeded.
“It will stop the bill,” Rosen said, attempting to understate her shock and disappointment with the racino addition as she spoke to members of the committee.
She explained that her House counterpart, Rep. Morrie Lanning, opposes racinos and supports charitable gaming. And she noted the Indian tribes’ adamant opposition, which would take away DFL votes for the bill.
Much as she, too, likes racinos, Rosen said, the move will kill the deal.
The racino amendment, which would allow slot machines at the metro area’s two racetracks, came out of nowhere and sidetracked the stadium bill’s progress. The Senate Finance Committee was expected to be a relatively easy stopover on the bill’s legislative journey.
But the amendment passed because the finance committee chair — Sen.Claire Robling, R-Jordan, a stadium supporter — also is a huge racino supporter. Rather than siding with Rosen, as she had on virtually every other matter Wednesday, she supported the racino amendment, after it was watered down by an old pro, Sen. Keith Langseth, DFL-Glyndon.
MinnPost photo by James NordSen. Claire Robling, Finance Committee chair, supported the racino amendment.
Langseth offered an amendment to Nienow’s amendment, proposing that the stadium bill should include both charitable gaming and racinos as funding mechanisms.
Don’t be confused, though. The Langseth amendment will make it easier to strip the racino measure from the stadium bill.
“It complicates things, but it [the racino provision] can be dealt with,” said Rosen after the committee session ended.
She worked hard to say everything with a straight face.
Complex Capitol maneuvering
All of this is a reminder that things often aren’t what they seem at the Capitol.
For example, when Nienow proposed his amendment, Sen. Mike Parry, R-Waseca, nearly jumped from his chair he was so excited.
“Wow!” said Parry, a racino supporter. “I’m speechless [he really wasn’t]. I thought this [Racino] was dead in the water.”
He went on to say that one of his main campaign promises, a few years back, was to work for racinos.
Parry, like Nienow, voted for the amendment. But then, both of them voted against approving the stadium bill with the racino amendment.
Hmmm. Why would someone like Parry seem to vote two ways on one bill?
It’s hard to get into the minds of politicians, but it’s probably worth noting that Parry is in a knock-down, drag-out brawl with Allen Quist for the Republican endorsement to run against incumbent 1st District Congressman Tim Walz. Both Quist and Parry are trying to “out-conservative” the other guy, and the ultra-conservative crowd typically opposes a state subsidy for the stadium.
Another thing is becoming increasingly clear as the stadium bill bumps along: Leaders, especially Republican leaders, don’t have much control of their caucuses.
Which brings us to that fiery television interview.
Sen. Dave Thompson, R-Lakeville, is among those first-term legislators who have never felt compelled to keep their opinions to themselves. At the moment, Thompson has marginalized himself in his own caucus, a caucus he is not afraid to criticize.
Thompson sees himself as the new generation of small-government Republicans, unlike the old country-club Republicans who try to do things like pass stadium bills. In this case, Thompson did a TV interview blasting the Legislature – meaning his own leadership – for attempting to have the stadium bill bypass the Senate Taxes Committee.
Most legislators seem to think the Vikings bill still will pass. But these difficulties are creating agony for everyone.
Republicans, who wanted their tax reform proposals to grab some headlines, instead are having to expend energy and time on the stadium bill.
Republicans saddled with stadium’s fate
Remarkably, although it’s DFL Gov. Mark Dayton who has been the one strong voice for the stadium throughout the session, it’s the Republicans who now are stuck with responsibility for the controversial bill. If they can’t pass it, it’s because they couldn’t round up votes in their own caucuses. If they do pass it, they have to own it.
And all the while, House Speaker Kurt Zellers, who seems to be working for the bill behind the scenes, still is trying to be coy.
Why won’t he take a position?
“From my perspective, that’s the best I can do for them as an advocate,” Zellers told reporters Wednesday. “If I were to say ‘yes’ or ‘no,’ there are people on both sides of the aisle who could use it for political advantage to kill the bill.”
Even civics majors might have a tough time understanding that.
DFLers, of course, are delighted to see the majority dangling over this political fire.
The DFL minority leaders, Sen. Tom Bakk and Rep. Paul Thissen, are promising they’ll deliver their proportion of votes. (Given the DFL’s minoritystatus , they say that it’s Republicans who must do the heavy lifting on the bill.)
Go back to Thompson’s television interview.
In the short term, at least, Thompson got what he wanted. Sen. Julianne Ortman, R-Chanhassen, responded to the criticism by announcing Wednesday morning that she indeed did want the Senate Taxes Committee to evaluate the stadium bill.
But Ortman has political problems of her own. At least two Republicans are attempting to wrest party endorsement from Ortman, and the stadium controversy doesn’t make her political life easier.
The Senate Taxes Committee is not considered Vikings friendly, although legislative leaders of both parties say they can get the bill through the committee.
Even if it passes, it is another bump for the bill and another strain, especially for Republican Senate leaders. That strain was created by one of their own, a freshman, which longtime leaders won’t easily forget or forgive.
Stadium controversy overshadows all else
It is stunning how the Vikings stadium bill has become the defining bill of this session.
Yes, behind the scenes there remain ongoing negotiations between the governor and Republican leaders on other matters, such as a bonding bill (which the governor wants) and some sort of business tax deal (which Republicans desire).
But it’s the stadium that all are watching, much to the frustration of many legislators.
Rep. Alice Hausman, DFL-St. Paul, a stadium foe, doesn’t believe the stadium momentum can be stopped.
Unlike the Twins ballpark bill of the past, the Vikings stadium has not faced organized opposition, and Hausman believes she understands why.
“Citizens have just given up on us,” Hausman said. “They have become cynical. They believe that when money comes marching in here, there’s nothing they can do about it.”
Hausman fears that if this stadium bill passes, voter cynicism will grow.
But both Bakk, the Senate minority leader, and Steve Sviggum, communications director of Senate Republicans, say that something else has happened.
“I think the majority [of people] want this deal done,” Bakk said.
Sviggum put it even more strongly.
“I think the message most [legislators] are getting when they’re in their districts is ‘Get it done,’ ” Sviggum said.
But, especially in the final days of the session, that’s no easy task.
“It is stunning . . .
how the Vikings stadium bill has become the defining bill of this session.”
No, it’s simply ridiculous. but yes, we want it done; we want a floor vote that puts a stake in the heart of the idea for years to come.
Yes, it is stunning…
how Doug Grow, a guy who used to be a reporter and columnist that people could generally count on to focus on the issues rather than the “horse race,” seems to be channeling Sid Hartman. No mention of the fact that the hearing offered no opportunity for opposition testimony, a pattern that has been repeated throughout the legislative session as the Vikings, the city of Minneapolis, MSFL Chair Ted Mondale, and all sorts of paid shills are allowed to speak on the virtues and benefits of a new stadium while those in opposition are limited to a few minutes to refute or counter what might be three or four hours of lies and exaggerations. Or that the hearings have been sandwiched into the last few weeks of the session because there is no public funding mechanism that can be justified on the merits, so that smoke and mirrors is now the strategy. Instead, the only compelling story that Grow can find is the “anguish” that those noble legislators like Sen. Julie Rosen doing the heavy lifting for the Vikings are experiencing when their colleagues “blind side” them with unexpected amendments. Oh, the humanity!
How ironic that Grow finds it “stunning” the way the issue of the Vikings stadium has dominated the discussion at the Capitol. No chance that the daily pounding of this issue by the media could have anything to do with that? Oh, look, here comes another highly-paid NFL player! Sorry, gotta go….
That wasn’t the point
The article is about legislative maneuvering and legislators’ thought processes, not the details of the stadium bill. “a guy who used to be a reporter” Really? It sounds like “if you’re not with me, you’re against me.”
Messed up priorities
It would be really cool if the legislators would work for the citizen of Minnesota as hard as they work for out of state NFL execs. All of a sudden they have found the energy to work for the NFL, but they couldn’t find a way to work together to get the business of the state on the agenda. They spent most of their time social engineering, which only serves the republicans. It shows the voters where their priorities are. There is a clue here voters. Becareful who you vote for or we will get this same disaster all over again.
Legislature Unites in Abject Contempt for Taxpayer
“They believe that when money comes marching in here, there’s nothing they can do about it.”
What we are getting, this legislative session, is the best government money can buy.
This nauseating bill is political corruption, nothing more nor less.
Hausman nailed it
Of course we’re cynical. When “The Man” wins time after time after time … why try to fight it anymore?
“I think the majority [of people] …” Bakk said.
“I think the message most [legislators] are getting …” Sviggum said.
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Do EITHER of these guys have ANY evidence to support these claims? Or is it just that they themselves want a stadium, so they’re assuming and saying that everyone else does?
Alice Hausman is probably right.
“get it done”
Legislators hear what they want to hear. If they were truly interested in their constituents’ opinion, they would push for a referendum concerning the financing. I think it would fail.
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Elephant in the Living Room
The legislators who are “on the Take” now find themselves in an impossible situation with the introduction of Racino into the mix. 80% of Minnesotans have repeatedly said they are in favor. Now, if the legislators vote against Racino , which would take care of an awful lot of the problems with the financing of the stadium without taxation, they will have to come up with a better argument than expansion of gambling for moral issues. If they vote against Racino, it will look like an admission of pandering. And if that is implied, then the elections in November look even more challenging than now. So who is going to win this war, the Indian Gaming Industry or the Viking and Racino backers? Stay tuned.
Civics classes? What civics classes? I did not have any high school civics classes and I graduated in 1992. I suspect we’ve been shortchanging our kids longer than that.
Rep. Hausman is right about the apathy and cynicism but it’s been going on longer than half a session. The complete lack of civics education much less practical experience at the capitol given to our children is at least as much to blame as any partisan shenanigans. We no longer teach them that they CAN have a voice in our government.
I understand stadium opponents are sincere…
…but is it so hard to understand that maybe you’re not the majority? This is from the last poll I saw on the stadium:
“-59% of Minnesota voters are opposed to the public paying any part of the cost for a new Vikings stadium, while just 33% are supportive. But they change their minds if a publicly funded stadium is the only way to keep the team in the state- 46% say they’d support tax money for a stadium if that’s what it took to keep the Vikings while only 39% say they’d prefer the team just moving.”
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/01/minnesota-odds-and-ends.html
The threat the team would move still isn’t explicit, but I think we all get it, and the poll showed that just like people in other cities that lost teams, we drop a lot of our stadium opposition in the face of losing the team. We may not like that it works that way, but we get that it works that way. If you were in elected office, would you want to go into campaign season having to explain why you let the Vikings leave?
Amateurs vs Professionals
>Unlike the Twins ballpark bill of the past, the Vikings >stadium has not faced organized opposition,
The Wilfs and the NFL and the Pohlads and Major League Baseball are professionals whose job it is to obtain public funding for their excessively profitable sports franchises.
Those who oppose this scam have jobs that do not pay them to be involved with civic responsibility. They have avocations that provide enjoyment–battling million and billionaires provides the opposite.
The pros know they only have to win once. Their job is to try try and try and ultimately succeed because the pros only have to win once. The amateur opposition has to win every time and is eventually worn down. When the professional Team Pohlad won public money for their sandbox, the amateurs were exhausted and haven’t been able to recuperate.
Lesson?
The only real lesson to be learned here is that we may not have a government for the people, but rather a government that’s for sale. Any legislator that claims to be working for the “people” buy creating a $40 million a year entitlement program for the a Jersey billionaire is embarrassing themselves. The fact that all of these guys are bending over backwards to prevent any kind of referendum betrays such proclamations as flat out duplicity.
Call and write, don’t just comment…
By the way, I hope everyone here is e-mailing or calling their legislators about this, it actually can make a difference on occasion.