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I'm not surprised at Republican politicians pretending there is only one side to this conflict, but I'm disappointed by the DFLers. I appreciate that Franken referred to a two-state solution and humanitarian aid, but he still lent his presence to a jingoistic pro-war event. The Americans who act like one side is entirely right just enable to people on each side who won't negotiate. Why does the Israeli government keep listening to American neocons? They haven't steered them right yet, and...
This is just rich. The man who did his very best to stop all the votes from being counted is complaining that not all the votes were counted. This man who used his veto power over wrongly rejected votes is upset that votes were vetoed instead of counted. He could have accepted Franken's offer to count all of them and neither exercise the veto.
Where is this evidence of double counting? Apparently it's too good to show publicly. If Coleman is serious that there was double counting,...
Mike, I'm not suggesting copper theft is one of the nation's most pressing issues, but, at the former HQ building at Ft. Snelling, which has sat abandoned since WW II, soldiers posted there at the end of the 19th century attached big brass plaques to honor fallen comrades. They are gone now. One was taken for safekeeping after the other was stolen. Fortunately I got photos before they disappeared. My photo might have been the last indication it was there.
Point being that though small...
I really hate jumping in again with a correction, but Franken sought to have the rejected ballots reviewed for mistaken rejections, and those mistaken rejection included in the recount. He never sought to have the 12,000 rejected ballots. I'm sure it sounds like a niggling detail, but these misunderstandings are a source of conspiracy theories claiming the election was stolen.
I really don't mean to join in a pile on for corrections, but, there weren't 12,000 wrongly rejected ballots. There were 12,000 rejected ballots, of which 1350 were determined by local election officials to have been rejected by election worker error. Franken sought to have these counted, and offered to Coleman that all be counted instead of either one using their veto power. Coleman chose to use it however, which is why the campaigns vetoed about 400 ballots. The 600 ballots Coleman asked...
Tony, "Why would Republicans want to get away from plurality elections in a Democrat state? Do you think Pawlenty would be governor right now if Peter Hutchinson wasn't involved in the last election."
I do not think Pawlenty would be governor without Hutchinson. The statistical evidence after that election was strong that Hutchinson's support came almost wholly from Hatch. Same with Tim Penny in 2002, and maybe there would have been Governor Humphrey without Ventura in 1998, though...
Tony, there is a need, even if it wasn't mandatory-recount close, because we keep having plurality elections. Every party in the state has endorsed runoffs in the form of IRV except for the Republicans. I hope now the Republicans will get on board.
Though I hasten to add that a runoff would guarantee only a majority winner. There could still be runoffs close enough for mandatory recounts.
No need to rush Franken's swearing in. I can't believe I'm agreeing with Cornyn, but they can't seat Franken without the secretary of state signign off if they use that as a pretext to not seat Burris. I urge a compromise where Burris gets to sit provided he promises not to run for the seat in 2010. That way he has so little to gain, there should be no suspicion of "pay to play."
Conservatives proposing conspiracy theories have no idea if the results make no statistical sense. They're just repeating the current GOP talking points. Come on people, at least learn some basic math before making these nonsensical statements. Over 2.9 million votes, and a change of 450 --- that's still an incredibly accurate initial tally. Look at prior elections and the changes when election night totals were corrected, and this senate race was remarkable for its accuracy.
Or maybe...
Judging from Sen. Cornyn's statement, it appears the Republican caucus is on the "wave the bloody shirt" side. It's just on sign, but there was also Pawlenty going on Fox and agreeing the ballots found in the car were suspicious instead of saying the story was wrong or saying he didn't know what the story was. Coleman spokesmen and GOP state party leaders have been talking about the recount process being biased for Franken. Since there has been no evidence of theft yet they've been talking...