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Pat Berg

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Posted on 10/09/14 at 08:45 am in response to What I wish people knew about pig farming

Well, I suppose I might call it "an unnatural counter-evolutionary behavior exacerbated by suboptimal population density".

Posted on 10/09/14 at 12:00 pm in response to What I wish people knew about pig farming

Domestication is unnatural. The fact that unnatural behaviors follow is not unexpected. Therefore, the need to utilize unnatural management techniques also comes into play.

Those are not value statements - they're simply statements of fact.

Where ethical lines start coming into play is when we acknowledge that we - the domesticators - have created this situation, and that therefore we - the domesticators - have choices in how we proceed to manage the situation.

Of...

Posted on 10/09/14 at 01:32 pm in response to What I wish people knew about pig farming

A responsible acceptance of our responsibilities.

It's really not all that difficult a concept to understand.

Posted on 10/09/14 at 01:36 pm in response to What I wish people knew about pig farming

Feral animals are those which once lived as domesticated animals which escaped at some point and are now living free. Feral animals are not the same as wild animals which have never been domesticated, and it is not uncommon for behaviors of feral animals to differ from those of their truly wild counterparts.

Posted on 10/09/14 at 04:26 pm in response to What I wish people knew about pig farming

Where did I advocate for creating feral hogs? You might wish to reread the thread. A little more slowly this time.

Posted on 10/09/14 at 10:38 pm in response to What I wish people knew about pig farming

I suppose they start chewing each others' tails off!

Posted on 10/10/14 at 12:22 pm in response to What I wish people knew about pig farming

Find me the post and quote where I have stated "that all pigs should be raised wild and free-running". You won't find it because I never said it.

What I said is that confinement raising creates changes in behavior. And since those changes in behavior can sometimes be to the detriment of the animals, confinement raising carries along with it practices that attempt to mitigate the damage.

What I asked for is honesty in acknowledging the role of confinement raising in creating...

Posted on 10/11/14 at 11:11 am in response to What I wish people knew about pig farming

Am I the only one reading this thread who is somewhat astonished that someone would think that quoting a couple of adjectives qualifies as "proving" that someone has made an entire statement describing their position?

With this level of reading comprehension, is it any wonder that having any kind of a productive discussion is so difficult?

Posted on 10/16/14 at 06:34 pm in response to What I wish people knew about pig farming

See now, this is interesting. I direct readers to this comment of yours on another thread:

http://www.minnpost.com/minnesota-blog-cabin/2014/08/5-lessons-learned-w...

In which a commenter...

Posted on 10/16/14 at 06:50 pm in response to What I wish people knew about pig farming

As I understand it, there is no official definition of "free range" for pigs.

I found this on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_range#Free-range_livestock), so take it as you will, but if you wish to clarify what it says, hopefully you'll have another citation(s) to support your statement:

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"The USDA has no...