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How the SPCO wants to reinvent the modern chamber orchestra

“It’s almost like a start-up company. In most organizations, you can have only incremental change. We have a fantastic opportunity to re-articulate what this orchestra can be.”

In the spring of 2013, as part of the contract settlement that ended the St. Paul Chamber Orchestra’s 191-day lockout, all SPCO musicians age 55 or older were offered buyouts. Ten players — about a third of the orchestra — accepted the deal. 

In many organizations, the loss of so much talent at one time would have been devastating. But today, SPCO leadership and many key musicians look upon the move less as a setback than an opportunity — a chance to more clearly differentiate the group from the big symphony orchestra across the river.

“Those retirements caused a lot of pain all around,’’ admitted Bruce Coppock, who returned as president and CEO of the orchestra weeks after the lockout ended. “But those who stayed, stayed voluntarily. Many of them had high-profile options, but they decided to stay and have recommitted in a wonderful way. They have an opportunity to mold the evolution of the Chamber.’’

The orchestra that’s ‘like a start-up’

coppock portrait
Photo by Ann Marsden
Bruce Coppock

Like Kevin Smith, his counterpart at the Minnesota Orchestra, Coppock is a positive force who has grand visions about both the artistic and economic future of the SPCO. He accepted the offer to return as president and CEO — he’d held those positions from 1999 to 2008 — because he’s a glass-half-full guy. This is an orchestra that can continue to be excellent while aspiring to be something special.

“It’s almost like a start-up company,’’ said Coppock. “In most organizations, you can have only incremental change. We have a fantastic opportunity to re-articulate what this orchestra can be.’’

And, importantly, what it is not. And what it is not, Coppock says repeatedly, is “a little symphony orchestra.’’ It is a chamber orchestra. Which means the competition is not the Minnesota Orchestra — it’s the Australian Chamber Orchestra (considered by many the world’s best) and a handful of chamber orchestras in Europe. 

So what’s the difference between a chamber orchestra and a symphony orchestra? 

“It’s the difference between a fast-break basketball team and a marching band,’’ said Coppock.  The chamber orchestra, in his mind, is the fast-break basketball team. Quick, creative, on the fly. Individual members understand each other and react to each other, not to a director standing on a podium. 

It takes a different sort of personality to play in the ideal chamber orchestra, according to Steven Copes, the SPCO’s concertmaster. He talks about how the inter-relationships of a chamber ensemble are like “an extremely complicated ecosystem.’’

For the moment, Copes says, the SPCO environment is “in the budding stage.’’  New hires slowly are being made to replace those who have left, but much is changed from hiring practices of the past. For starters, it’s the musicians who are the major decision-makers as to whom their new colleagues will be. 

And the musicians aren’t making those decisions based on artistic talent alone. How the applicant will fit is a fundamental issue for the muscians. If a cellist, for example, is willing to accept a position with the SPCO only because an opportunity to play with a big symphony is not available, it’s not going to work.  The cellist is going to have to have that “fast-break’’ mentality, that ability to think and react with fellow musicians if the SPCO is going to get where it wants to go.

What’s not said in all of this — but clearly implied — is that many of the musicians who accepted the buyout were from a time when the SPCO was structured as, in fact, a little symphony orchestra. In the 1980s, then music director Pinchas Zukerman even suggested scrapping  “chamber” from the orchestra’s name. He wanted to rename the outfit the St. Paul Classical Orchestra.

That idea was nixed. But whatever the SPCO was — a chamber orchestra or a little symphony — it should be noted that it got rave reviews around the world, produced acclaimed recordings and had a long history of economic viability. 

New contract, new dynamic

For years, the SPCO has moved away from some of the accoutrements of a traditional orchestra, such as a top-down director. Instead, the SPCO musicians have been self-directed. A series of artistic partners, such as the electric Patricia Kopatchinskaja, now bring a variety of influences to the group’s style.

Kyu-Young Kim

The new contract also has created a new dynamic in the management structure of the SPCO. During the lockout, principal second violinist Kyu-Young Kim was set to accept a position with the New York Philharmonic. Not wanting to lose him, SPCO leaders offered a unique arrangement: He would move into SPCO management — as well as continue as a member of the orchestra — if he would stay.

On paper, the idea appeared like a good one. For generations, musicians have sought more power in their professions. So here was a talented musician who now is going to be the bridge between musicians and the front office.

“During the lockout, I felt powerless, so many of us did,’’ he said. “You’d ask yourself, ‘Why is this happening? There has to be a way to make it better.’’’

What could possibly go wrong?  

For one, the New York office of the American Federation of Musicians has called Kyu-Young Kim’s deal an unfair labor practice, and there almost certainly will be litigation over the matter. The question is simple: No matter how decent the person, or how noble an organization’s intentions, is it possible to attend management meetings one day and a union meeting the next and be faithful to both sides?

Neither Kyu-Young Kim nor Bruce Coppock is comfortable talking about the situation, and until the matter is resolved, the violinist is not attending union meetings. And as a manager, he says he’s avoiding such topics as how much each member of the orchestra is being paid.

“There is absolutely no malicious intent in this arrangement,’’ Kyu-Young Kim said. “We have come to a time when muscians no longer can be kept in the dark about the business of running an orchestra. It’s not that I’m no longer a musician. I am — that is my love. But I feel that it’s a privilege to do both.’’

In the wake of the lockouts, musicians in both the SPCO and the Minnesota Orchestra are seeking more transparency in the business operations of the orchestras, and more power in artistic decision-making.

Copes points out that it’s often not possible to separate artistic ambitions from economic realities. 

“It’s important that we deal with costs because there’s a correlation between costs and artistic possibilities,’’ Copes said. “Sometimes these are difficult discussions to have. We can have 20 violinists but, because of the economics, that means we won’t have any oboes. This can be very complicated.’’ 

But Copes said that the lockout absolutely underscored the need for musicians to be players in the front office. “If we are to be a great orchestra, everything has to fire at the same time,’‘ he said.  

The good news to date, according to Coppock, is that the hit SPCO musicians took in ending the lockout hasn’t hurt the stream of talented musicians who would like to perform with the chamber. As part of the lockout settlement, the musicians took an 18.6 per cent pay cut, with a base pay that fell to $60,000 — more than 30 percent less than that of a Minnesota Orchestra player. Additionally, the size of the orchestra was reduced from 34 to 28 musicians. 

The one area the reduction in pay has played a role, Coppock said, is in the hiring of replacement musicians to one-year contracts. If a replacement musician has the choice of signing a one-year deal with the SPCO or the Minnesota Orchestra, they invariably choose the Minnesota Orchestra. But again, those are one-year  replacement deals. 

Creating an ‘unforgettable experience’

There is a balm waiting for any of the hard feelings that may be lingering after the lockout: a $42 million concert hall that the SPCO will move into in March, an elegant venue that will be acoustically superior to the Ordway Theater. 

Coppock uses a sports-venue analogy to describe the difference between the 1,900-seat Ordway Theater and the new 1,100-seat Concert Hall (which was created from the old McKnight Theater space in the Ordway). He compared the Ordway Theater to the cookie-cutter, multipurpose sports stadiums that were hastily built throughout the country in the 1960s and ‘70s. Those stadiums were supposed to house both Major League Baseball and NFL football teams, but proved to be poor venues for both.

Photo by Marco Borggreve
When Patricia Kopatchinskaja was in town last month, all nine concerts were sold out.

The Ordway Theater, beautiful as it is, was designed for multiple purposes — but there was an acoustical cost to the Chamber orchestra, though not for the Schubert Club or the Minnesota Opera. One major hall also created scheduling woes. The new concert hall is mostly a product of private fundraising, though the state has contributed a $13 million bond and the city of St. Paul has stepped in with $3 million. Overall, the fundraising drive has reached a total of $80 million, $42 for the hall and the remainder to be used as an endowment.

This new hall not only is testimony to the desire of the market to be home for two orchestras, but will allow those who attend concerts to want to come back for more. Too often, Kyu-Young Kim said, people leave concerts saying things like “that was nice.’’  The chamber orchestra consistently wants to create “unforgettable experiences.’’ 

For all the doomsayers about the future of orchestras, big and small, there are numbers that make Coppock believe that there’s an ample audience to tap. He says that surveys show 17 percent of the population expresses an interest in classical music. But of that 17 per cent, just 1 percent actually attend concerts. 

Already, by playing at sites throughout the Twin Cities and with low ticket prices, the St. Paul Chamber Orchestra is playing to 90 percent capacity. When Kopatchinskaja was in town last  month, all nine concerts were sold out. She was overwhelmed by the audiences, Coppock said. And overwhelmed by one other thing about her first Minnesota appearance: “She couldn’t believe the quality of the orchestra.’’

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Comments (5)

  1. Submitted by Jim Million on 12/16/2014 - 10:24 am.

    No New Wounds, Please

    Thanks to Doug Grow for a summary that may now be viewed with less passion, a perspective that’s still going to be tough for many.

    This ensemble just now begins the re-building phase of structural and philosophical ideals. Whatever the particulars may be, the core goal must be vitality: musically, professionally, financially.

    Prime Directives:

    Mr. Grow, please continue installment status reviews.

    Mr. Coppock, please inflict no new wounds.

  2. Submitted by Ken Green on 12/16/2014 - 02:22 pm.

    New Concert Hall

    We were just at the Chicago Symphony this past weekend and enjoyed a concert by a world-class symphony orchestra featuring Beethoven’s Seventh Symphony. Our seats were in the Terrace Section, up a level from the stage, behind the musicians but facing the conductor and the rest of the audience–and they were absolutely terrific! A few years ago, when Hugh Wolff was here, we and some others sat on stage at the Ordway during an SPCO concert, in a similar fashion, behind the musicians but facing the conductor; I think the featured piece that evening was Ives’ “A New England Holiday Symphony.” I shared all this a day or so ago on Facebook, and someone told me the new Ordway Music Hall will have just such a section, a fact that I had missed until now. If so, I think we will definitely pop for what I imagine will be the extra cost for the best seats in the house!

  3. Submitted by Amy Adams on 12/16/2014 - 02:51 pm.

    I guess it’s good being a “glass-half-full” guy…

    …if that means you can prune the number of human beings to fit your vision.

  4. Submitted by Britter Ritter on 12/21/2014 - 09:32 pm.


    There is a musical, artistic difference between a chamber orchestra and a symphony orchestra, and I am sorry that it wasn’t focused on. At least in terms of the SPCO, what it was in its youth, under Dennis Russell Davies, it was a group of players who could solo as well as be ensemble players, going from a Haydn symphony to a mixed chamber ensemble piece on the same program. I heard an unforgettable performance of a Ballade for viola by Frank Martin, pieces by Berio, and I remember a season focused on Haydn and John Cage. I think they need to remember their roots, and bring back Maestro Davies to re-center the group. To be effective, they should also be focusing on touring. One of the advantages of a chamber orchestra is that they can tour more easily. Oh, and they absolutely have to add a full-time harpist. It is inexcusable not to have one. Harpsichord is not the only continuo instrument.

  5. Submitted by Sarah Nagle on 12/28/2014 - 06:44 pm.

    A lot of pain “all around”??

    The musicians who left knew that they had targets on their backs and decided they had better take the buyout offer. I seriously doubt that the Board and the big donors and the golden boys and girls experienced the same kind of “pain” felt by those thrown under the bus. It is now the SPCO in name only.

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