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Listening in on DOJ’s community listening sessions: ‘We cannot afford another Philando Castile’

Pablo Tapia
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Minneapolis resident Pablo Tapia said he's been racially profiled by St. Anthony police.

Wednesday night marked the last of three community listening sessions conducted by the U.S. Department of Justice’s Office of Community Oriented Policing Services as part of their voluntary review of the St. Anthony Police Department sparked by the high-profile fatal shooting of Philando Castile in Falcon Heights by one of its officers on July 6.

Hundreds attended the sessions, held January 9 through 11, where audience members discussed anything from racial profiling, to a lack mental health and de-escalation training, to not enough officers living in the areas they patrol. But many in attendance were skeptical that the Justice Department’s review would lead to any change among the state’s police departments and what they call longstanding problems police have with Minnesota’s communities of color.

In St. Paul, African Americans are more likely to be frisked or searched when stopped by police, and black drivers are given more citations by officers when pulled over than any other racial group, according to 15 years of data released by the city’s police department last month. Last year, blacks were also ticketed and arrested more often than other racial groups in areas patrolled by the St. Anthony Police Department, according to an analysis by the Pioneer Press.

At Tuesday’s meeting at St. Anthony Village High School, Minneapolis resident Pablo Tapia — who’s Hispanic — was one of several dozen who testified among the crowd of about 200. He said he’s experienced racial profiling from St. Anthony police in the past and tried to bring attention to the issue before. “This is not the first time I’ve stood in front of the Department of Justice,” he said. “This is not a new issue.”

The federal review of the St. Anthony Police Department will take about two years to complete, officials said, and afterwards the DOJ will make recommendations to the St. Anthony Police Department on how to improve their force. However, their recommendations aren’t binding.

That’s the problem, said Michelle Gross, president of local civil rights group Communities United Against Police Brutality. Gross has been working on police accountability issues for 30 years, she said, and doesn’t believe voluntary DOJ reviews will carry any impact in Minnesota. She points to similar reviews made in places like Calexico, CA, where a DOJ review last year declared the city’s police department needed to overhaul its force in almost every way — yet no significant changes were made. “The problem with the voluntary [reviews] is they end up making a whole lot of recommendations that never go through,” Gross said.

Michelle Gross
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Michelle Gross: "People who live here don't need a study to prove what's wrong."

John Thompson, a former co-worker and friend of Castile, echoed similar complaints, saying the process would take too long and wouldn’t rear any teeth. “We don’t want y’all to listen to us anymore, we want justice,” Thompson told the DOJ on Tuesday. “We cannot afford another Philando Castile.”

Curtis Avent, a black civil rights activist who attended all three meetings, said Minnesota has a long history of documented civil rights violation cases. “You guys know this, I know this,” he told the DOJ at Tuesday’s session. “We’re sitting here having a listening session of what we clearly know to be civil rights violations that haven’t changed for many multitudes of years.”

John Thompson
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John Thompson, former co-worker and friend of Philando Castile, said people want action, not more studies.

For Thompson, he hopes the DOJ’s investigation doesn’t stop with St. Anthony, but spreads out around the whole metro area. “When you finish this, step next door to Roseville, and then go next door to Maplewood, and then go to St. Paul, and then please go to Minneapolis,” he said. “This state has a police problem.”

Currently, St. Anthony police officer Jeronimo Yanez faces one count of second-degree manslaughter and two counts of dangerous weapons discharge. The shooting sparked weeks of fierce protest across the Twin Cities by activists and communities of color who believe Castile was racially profiled when killed.

Correction: this story originally stated that officer Jeronimo Yanez faces “three counts of second-degree manslaughter.” That was incorrect. Yanez faces one count of second-degree manslaughter and two counts of dangerous weapons discharge. 

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Comments (4)

Then what?

I didn't hear any positive suggestions in the article.

Were the meetings all about telling the police they are doing everything wrong, or did people come to the meetings with workable ideas?

Victim blaming

Why should the racial minorities who are being harmed by police profiling be responsible for correcting the problem?

This is another form of blaming the victim.

So glad you asked

Glad Kristoffer did this article, and I hope he will continue to follow the issue! I think his article focused on the concern that no meaningful action will be taken despite all the listening. However, numerous people were at the meetings with workable ideas, including many members of St. Anthony Villagers for Community Action who have been working for some months with residents and with non-residents impacted by policing practices. They spoke about the obstacles they have met while working on the issues, presented data, and gave an overview of proposed solutions. They connected personally with the COPS people and provided their material. Additionally, several individuals who spoke of personal experience stated that they had well-thought-out ideas and wanted to work on solutions. Further, the group represented by Michelle Gross, Communities United Against Policy Brutality, distributed a flyer outlining their concerns about this process and also listing "Possible Solutions." The stories told by young students about how their lives had been impacted by fear since the shooting of Mr. Castile were supplemented by a high school student who spoke powerfully about the work her group is doing to create civil conversations, which is also a large part of creating "workable ideas." There simply wasn't time to detail everything, but there were many ideas advanced on creating transparency, access to data, meaningful complaint and review process, accountability, and evaluation of training, for example.

Here's an idea or two.

Admit we have a problem with police shooting Black citizens to death.

Don't profile, don't do a prescriptive stop (broken taillight) when you suspect a felony stop ("he thought the driver fit an armed robbery suspect").

Felony stops do not approach the car but insist the suspect exit the vehicle by loudspeaker or voice. Felony stops always proceed after calls for backup.

If the legislature cared about police safety, they would require Carry Permits" be so designated on the driver's license. A plate run might have saved Philando's life if the officer knew he had a carry permit and wasn't surprised into quick shots. I find it surprising that we give out conceal permits and do not tell the patrol cars via license indicator.

Don't be cynical, but believe: Racism in law enforcement will not go quietly into the night, nor will it suddenly be obvious in day-to-day policing. Neighborhoods and highway stretches that pad police coffers are not what communities need in the way of police protection.