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When I see your Trump sign

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Adnan Ahmed
On Jan. 15, Jordan High School students displayed a Trump sign at a basketball game against a rival team consisting mostly of minority students. This is not the first time I have seen school students using public support for President Donald Trump at a non-political platform. In 2016, soon after Trump was elected president, students at a Michigan middle school were recorded chanting, “Build the Wall.” Other incidents have also been reported in the media. More recently, visiting students from Covington Catholic High School in Kentucky were filmed mocking a Native American elder in Washington, D.C., when the Indigenous People’s march crossed paths with a pro-life march in which the students were participating.

Public support for President Trump means different things to different people. To his supporters this might simply be an expression of their patriotism, or their pro-life beliefs, or even a protest against the #MeToo movement.

Witnessing this public support for President Trump, however, means something completely different to people like me who did not vote for him. Trump has fostered an othering of minorities that many of us have not witnessed before. To us, seeing Trump insignia is a reminder of his cruelty toward immigrants, women, Americans of color and the environment. For many of us a Trump sign or a MAGA hat is the equivalent of a “Whites Only” sign.

I am a resident of Prior Lake — roughly 10 miles from Jordan, the town where high school students displayed a Trump sign at a basketball game. For almost four years after moving to Minnesota, I worked in rural towns like Mankato, St. Peter and Hutchinson. Seeing Trump-Pence signs on my way to work and bumper stickers in the work parking lot made me feel unwelcome. Sure enough, after the elections, I decided to move my work to the Twin Cities.

I support the right of Trump supporters to express their support for him. The meaning of what this support entails, however, needs to be understood. Supporting our president means embracing the whole package that is President Trump – racism and all. Espousing support for the president for some circumscribed reason while ignoring his racism and how it affects others is a position of privilege. It is becoming harder for his supporters to deflect accusations of being racist themselves, given Trump’s baggage of continued hateful rhetoric.

Watching school students using support for Trump as an intimidation tactic is especially painful. It shows the normalization of racism to the point where children engaging in racist behavior are unable to see their own cruelty. I hope that these students will someday look back at this incident as youthful foolishness. Trump supporters or not, people on both sides tend to forget that he will not be president forever. For some of us this might mean that better days may be ahead. For others, perhaps this is good time to think about how history might remember us.

Adnan Ahmed, MBBS, is an assistant professor in the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at the University of Minnesota.


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Comments (59)

  1. Submitted by Frank Phelan on 01/25/2019 - 03:20 pm.

    And what is especially sad is that it is likely these children learned this insensitivity at home, some of which contain Bibles that admonish us to welcome the stranger, the alien in our midst.

    Truly, it is Sad!

    • Submitted by Misty Martin on 01/28/2019 - 12:20 pm.

      Mr. Phelan: I agree with you – it is indeed sad. And I can identify with what
      the author of this article, Adnan Ahmed said: “Supporting our president means embracing the whole package that is President Trump – racism and all.”

  2. Submitted by Gary Fredrickson on 01/26/2019 - 02:02 am.

    As someone who spent eight years with an administration who looked at people like me and gave us the middle finger [at least it felt like that]., I can sympathise with your feelings.

    It is evident that you do not understand that I, and many like me despised the last administration every bit as much as you despise Trump and his supporters. I know it is hard to believe but it is true!

    We did not riot when Obama was sworn in as so many did when Trump took the oath.

    We did not march on the Capitol when public grade school teachers had their students singing songs of praise to Obama.

    To you it is insensitive to wear a MAGA hat but evidently it is not insensitive to call a person wearing it a racist. Think about that.

    Your characterization of the catholic high school kids is severely slanted by your bias and the bias of the news you watch and read.They did not mock the native american man! They did not surround the man as he said.Watch the entire video! There are many more sources out there. Look them up!

    I have trouble understanding how people who believe that it is wrong to kill viable babies are somehow thought to be bad people.

    if you think Trump is a racist then I believe you are the one with the problem. Minorities thought he was great until he ran for president as a Republican. Stop watching CNN and understand that the Twin City newspapers [Pravda West and Pravda East] are not telling you the whole truth.

    If you think you feel unwelcome, grow a thicker skin. Try putting a Trump sticker on your car in Minneapolis. See if you could make it a week without being vandalized or possibly assaulted.. Not the same with a Hillary or Obama sticker in Prior Lake is it?

    You say that you hope someday these students will look back at this incident as youthful foolishness. I pray that someday you might understand that people who think different politically than you may be good people and just disagree with your politics.

    I am a supporter of Trump and the only racism I have is what the left calls “white privilege” Sorry, I can’t help what my ancestry is. All I can do is be as good of a person as possible and do what I think is best. Give to charity and help people in need when I can.
    Obviously it is not the same as what you believe but I don’t think you are a bad person because we disagree. I would welcome a conversation to try to show you how I think you are mistaken about many people who support Trump. We’re all in this together but we have differing ideas about what is best for society and this great country.

    I feel President Trump is the first president since Ronald Reagan who gave a crap about the middle class working people and small business as opposed to the rich or the nonworking people.. I’m sorry if you feel uncomfortable to see or hear someone support him. I know the left has trouble believing it but “Build the wall” has nothing to do with race. But the “non-racists” on the left see race in everything. Hmmm
    #Walk away

    I’ll leave it there and let the usual posters here tell me how stupid, racist and insensitive I am.

    • Submitted by Mike Schumann on 01/26/2019 - 07:31 am.

      Well said!

    • Submitted by Jim Roth on 01/26/2019 - 08:06 am.

      He didn’t say you have to agree with him; he said what people of color like him feel when they see MAGA hats and Trump signs. He said they probably mean different things to people who support Trump. The country needs honest discussions about painful issues like racism. Trump is currently at the epicenter and he uses race as a wedge issue. So obviously that divides people.

    • Submitted by Michael Olson on 01/26/2019 - 08:14 am.

      I’m puzzled how the differences in stressing cooperation and inclusion are not recognized, are they wrong? Riots? Maybe mistakes but not withholding two paychecks even as many were forced to work without pay, that is a cause for unrest.

    • Submitted by Ray J Wallin on 01/26/2019 - 08:23 am.

      Gary, your comments are heartfelt, honest, and welcomed.

      • Submitted by Frank Phelan on 01/27/2019 - 11:16 am.

        Give he claims there were riots when Don Trump was inaugurated, he is badly misinformed at best, misleading us at worst.

        That statement is so brazenly wrong, I’m really surprised the mods allowed it.

    • Submitted by Dennis Litfin on 01/26/2019 - 11:52 am.

      Gary…..I watch your hated CNN, MSNBC, and also your Fox News each day. From your ranting, I would bet that your only source of information comes from Fox.

      The children from Jordan are only fulfilling the paradigm set for them by their parents….the 34% of voters that will agree with most of what you have written.

      The majority of this Nation’s citizens do not agree with you nor with Trump’s Fascist philosophy….witness the 2018 elections, the marches, the sit ins, the editorials, the comments from past respected American leaders and from citizens who live and work on the Boarder in Texas, New Mexico, California, and Arizona. … et. al.

      Gary you have every right to your comments, as do I, but you strike me, an 81 year old American citizen, as one who embraces the now well-known symbol of being an Angry, Straight, Well-Armed, Evangelical White man who has lost his sense of being.

      • Submitted by Gary Fredrickson on 01/26/2019 - 06:24 pm.

        Dennis, You got a few things correct. I am straight, well armed, Evangelical and white. I probably watch CNN more than Fox though I am not a news junkie.
        Did you know that the Roosevelt team made political statements of their own by not coming out of the locker room for the National Anthem? Sounds more like reciprocity than an aggression by the Jordan team.
        I am not an angry person, just disheartened with my fellow Americans who have lost their way.. To cite what the majority of people believe is not an argument for what is right. A majority of Germans backed Hitler

        That brings me to the subject of Fascism that many here seem to like to bring up. Fascism is by definition a product of leftism. Socialist government control of the economy is the leftist ideal.The ultimate Fascists Hitler and Mussollini were socialists.Trump is the ultimate Capitalist and like Reagan would like the government more “out of your way”. If you get your definitions from Wikipedia you might be confused..
        Peace, #Walk away

        • Submitted by Eric Ferguson on 01/27/2019 - 10:44 pm.

          Regarding “if you think Trump is a racist then I believe you are the one with the problem. Minorities thought he was great until he ran for president as a Republican. ” Where did you get that from? Have you forgotten the Central Park Five? Are you unaware how often he’s been sued for racial discrimination? What minorities liked Trump before he ran? You clearly get tired of being told you’re wrong, so I’ll just plead with you to start checking your facts. Most of your assertions are just plain factually wrong.

    • Submitted by Rick Prescott on 01/26/2019 - 02:15 pm.

      “I, and many like me despised the last administration every bit as much as you despise Trump and his supporters.”

      Even after reading your entire comment several times I still don’t understand: What did you hate so much about the previous administration before it even began?

      I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but from the rest of your comment, it seems like you felt marginalized because the administration did not agree with you on reproductive rights. Yet since this post is specifically about racism, there is an implication that you felt any incoming administration should be tolerant of all viewpoints, even if they include overt racism. (Note: I am not calling you a racist.)

      Further, I am curious how you would justify ANY support for any administration which openly and repeatedly embraces xenophobic and racist principles in word and action. These principles run directly counter to the founding ideals of this country — accepting that the founders themselves took actions in direct disregard for the principles they were attempting to propagate. Such principles are, to my mind, non-negotiable. No amount of offset — fiscal or social — could ever make up for them.

      The assertion that Mr. Trump “is the first president since Ronald Reagan who gave a crap about the middle class working people and small business as opposed to the rich or the nonworking people” is dubious, to say the least. Most of his actions have benefited the wealthy at the direct expense of the non-wealthy (e.g. your small tax cut will expire, while the large ones for the wealthy will not). Could putting an anti-abortion justice on the Supreme Court really make up for the exploitation and marginalization of millions, likely including yourself?

    • Submitted by ian wade on 01/26/2019 - 04:13 pm.

      “I’ll leave it there and let the usual posters here tell me how stupid, racist and insensitive I am.”

      I think you’ve done a great job of that all by yourself. “Pravda West & Pravda East?” Good Lord…

    • Submitted by Kevin Bradley on 01/26/2019 - 10:47 pm.

      Thank you, Gary. You are not alone.

    • Submitted by Edward Blaise on 01/28/2019 - 10:45 am.

      “I feel President Trump is the first president since Ronald Reagan who gave a crap about the middle class working people and small business as opposed to the rich or the nonworking people”

      If you at all subscribe to “put your money where your mouth is” you will say Trump promised to “give a crap about the middle class working people” and then never backed it up with anything but more words. The tax cut was Trump telling middle class folks “you’re way to stupid to even know we’re screwing you again”. What if the tax cut dollars were directed instead to shore up Social Security and Medicare? Isn’t that a better commitment to working folks?

      If you really “give a crap about the middle class working people” you better give Elizabeth Warren a serious look: she is the only one who knows it, talks it, and walks it.

    • Submitted by James Miller on 01/28/2019 - 01:17 pm.

      ” Minorities thought he was great until he ran for president as a Republican” Study your history. Particularly the infamous Trump family housing case in NY ( Then move on to his quoted remarks about “I only want guys w/yamulkes counting my money). Then look at how many times he’s changed parties, and who his building empire has benefited. Look at the small businesses that he has refused to pay. Look at the undocumented workers whom he employed for years and just terminated. Use your brain and do some research. He’s not there for you and me unless it garners him votes. He cannot change world trends and bring coal back to KY and WV. Think!!!

    • Submitted by Dennis Ringstad on 02/01/2019 - 03:14 am.

      If you are defensive about race i.e. your own you are by definition a racist. You should look into mindfulness and meta cognition.

  3. Submitted by Robert Ahles on 01/26/2019 - 07:41 am.

    From an American Patriot with an online name of Yeah_Right:

    I listened as you called President Obama a Muslim. I listened as you called him and his family a pack of monkeys. I listened as you said he wasn’t born here. I watched as you blocked every single path to progress that you could. I saw the pictures you made of him as Hitler. I watched you shut down the government and hurt the entire nation, twice. I watched you turn your backs on every opportunity to open a worthwhile dialog. I watched you say that you would not even listen to any choice for Supreme Court no matter who the nominee was. I listened as you openly said that you will oppose him at every turn. I watched as you did just that. I listened. I watched. I paid attention. Now you, Gary Fredrickson, ask me to call stupid, racist and insensitive so I will do just that. I’m being called on to be tolerant. To move forward. To denounce protesters. To “Get over it.” To accept this… I will not. I will do my part to make sure, this great American mistake, becomes the embarrassing footnote of our history that it deserves to be. I will do this as quickly as possible, every chance I get. I will do my part to limit the damage that this man can do to the country that I love. I will watch his every move and point out every single mistake and misdeed in a loud and proud voice. I will let you know in a loud voice every time this man backs away from a promise he made to you. The people who voted for him. Yes you, the ones who sold their souls and prayed for him to win and still support him. I will do this so that you never forget. And you will hear me. You will hear it in my voice when I talk to you. You will know that I know who you are. You will know that I know what you are. Do not call for my tolerance. I’ve tolerated all I can. Now it’s your turn to tolerate the ridicule. Be aware, make no mistake about it, every single thing that goes wrong in our country from Trump’s election forward is now Trump’s fault just as much as you thought it was Obama’s. I find it unreasonable for you to expect from me, what you were entirely unwilling to give.

    • Submitted by Gary Fredrickson on 01/26/2019 - 05:41 pm.

      I did not call Obama a Muslim though some people may have.
      I did not call his family a pack of monkeys though some people may have
      I did not liken Obama to Hitler as some may have.
      Do you not see that all these kinds of things that you didn’t like people saying about Obama have been said about Trump [probably even worse things] but I don’t ascribe them to you personally just because you liked Obama. You can find A-holes and idiots on all sides of the political spectrum. Should I ascribe to you the vulgarity of Robert DeNiro, the low intelligence of Miley Cyrus or the violence of Antifa?

      Different view. The “great American mistake” as you call it has been temporarily put on hold by the election of President Trump. The globalists I’m afraid will win in the end unless there is more divine intervention like in the 2016 election
      It is time for prayer. Peace
      #Walk away .

  4. Submitted by Robert Ahles on 01/26/2019 - 07:48 am.

    Many Trump supporters like Gary are much like Trump. Their opinions are little influenced by reality. They continue to believe whatever seems to make them feel better about themselves. Trump’s childish behavior, his infidelity, his lies, his flip-flopping, his lack of accomplishment and inconsistencies matter not a whit. Their blind allegiance to a single political leader is not patriotism or American, it is the characteristic of a Sheeple.

    “To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” – Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States.

  5. Submitted by Robert Ahles on 01/26/2019 - 07:57 am.

    So many base their vote on a single issue, abortion, and that has helped put the USA in the position of electing a man like Donald Trump.

    Trump has jumped between various positions on abortion – from declaring himself pro-choice to calling for “some sort of punishment” for women who have abortions.

    In 1999 Trump said: “I am very pro-choice. … I am strongly for choice and yet I hate the concept of abortion. I am pro-choice in every respect.”

    Now go back to 2015 and you’ll see Donald Trump’s 180-degree change on abortion.

    Since you have to be Pro Life to run for president as a Republican I think he decided he would have to switch and be OK with being Pro Life.

  6. Submitted by Ray J Wallin on 01/26/2019 - 08:25 am.

    As reported in the Atlantic, the Covington narrative referenced in the above article is false. Not only false, it displays the left’s desire to discriminate by race.

    There were three groups involved in the DC ‘confrontation.’ First, the mainly white HS students wearing MAGA hats were verbally harassed by a minority group. Then, a minority (the American Indian elder) group walked up to the students while the elder banged a drum continuously. When interviewed later, the elder lied to the media about what happened, and social media took it from there, persecuting these white students.

    Again, three groups were involved, two of them being aggressive, and only the clips of white MAGA hat wearing students were spread across social media. What we have is a false narrative.

    The author of the above article has fallen into the familiar trap of listening only to the media, not the facts. Republicans appreciate and respect all races. It is the left that defines every issue by race and has singled out a group of students by their race and persecuted them. That is racism.

    “The Media Botched the Covington Catholic Story”

    • Submitted by Henk Tobias on 01/26/2019 - 05:25 pm.

      I have eyes and I have a brain. I don’t need you or anyone else to tell me what that kid was doing in that video. His friends are egging him on with tomahawk chops and mocking chants. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that.Talk about lies, read the letter that the PR firm wrote for that kid.

      Let’s put it in context: an all male Catholic school dressed a bunch of privileged teen aged boys up in Donald regalia, put them on a bus and sent them to Washington to tell women what they can and can’t do with their bodies. Those boys were obviously poorly supervised and as will happen with teen boys when the are in a group, they got into trouble and the caused trouble.

    • Submitted by Ray J Wallin on 01/26/2019 - 11:37 pm.

      Henk’s comment says the Covington boys were:

      “an all male Catholic school dressed a bunch of privileged teen aged boys up in Donald regalia, put them on a bus and sent them to Washington to tell women what they can and can’t do with their bodies.”

      The author of the above article says:

      “a Trump sign or a MAGA hat is the equivalent of a ‘Whites Only’ sign.”

      Identity politics laid out for you plain and simple.

      • Submitted by Frank Phelan on 01/27/2019 - 06:26 pm.

        Yes, the wearing of a MAGA hat IS the definition of identity politics.

      • Submitted by Ray J Wallin on 01/28/2019 - 07:29 am.

        The vast majority of those wearing the red MAGA hat wear it in support of the President.

        For ‘political’ purposes, those on the left ‘identify’ the hat with racism.

        Hence, the term ‘Identity Politics.’

    • Submitted by Karen Sandness on 01/29/2019 - 01:47 pm.

      The kids from Kentucky were being taunted by a small group of black people who are known to be crazy cultists. Their taunts didn’t even make sense.

      Where the students’ chaperones? If I had been chaperoning that group (and I have chaperoned college students on trips), I would have said, “Come on, guys. They’re obviously trying to get a rise out of you. Let’s move on.”

      Instead, the students, being insufficiently supervised teenage boys, respond with their own taunts, including making ape gestures. One of the boys even takes off his shirt and hunches over like a gorilla. Does anyone NOT know that comparing African-Americans to apes is racist?

      Then there’s the well-known picture of the guy with the MAGA hat facing up to the Native American drummer.

      Sorry, folks, but that isn’t a friendly smile. That is the classic frat boy smirk, a look that every college instructor knows well.

  7. Submitted by Gene Nelson on 01/26/2019 - 09:52 am.

    Truly, the repubs today concern me and I believe that trump is the result of the rot in the GOP.
    I’ve listened to hate by the right towards Gov Dayton who cleaned up repub Pawlenty deficits and mess and gave us surpluses, top 5 economic growth and a whole slew of very good ratings, including one of the best states for business…yet the right hate…just as they did with Obama, who helped clean up the horrific mess bush and the repubs left behind.
    I no longer believe repubs live in a factual or honest world.

  8. Submitted by Nathan Johnson on 01/26/2019 - 10:40 am.

    What I’m witnessing in the Trump era is unprecedented. I saw a white man at the sports show at the convention center yelling at a disabled Somali woman to go back to her country! Driving an electric car with a Hillary sticker, i’ve been flicked off numerous times by trucks with Trump stickers. People have become emboldened and brazen!

  9. Submitted by David Markle on 01/26/2019 - 01:35 pm.

    No wonder, the wearing of apparel or insignia to demonstrate support of Trump strongly suggests that the wearer feels at one with Trump’s unpleasant personal traits.

  10. Submitted by Dennis Wagner on 01/26/2019 - 04:22 pm.

    MAGA is a meme lifted from a 1929 Mussolini speech, Mussolini, according to the Dictators Playbook, “PBS” Wikipedia etc. was the father of fascism. Decisions, decisions.

    • Submitted by Misty Martin on 01/28/2019 - 12:23 pm.

      Mr. Wagner:

      I watched that piece on PBS. Scary wasn’t it? “Us” against “them” politics – sounds familiar, huh?

  11. Submitted by Paul Yochim on 01/26/2019 - 05:12 pm.

    This author appears to find anyone who dares disagree with him to be offensive. Personally I am tired of being labeled as racist, bigoted, homophobic, xenophobic, misogynistic and a rash of other pejoratives because I have conservative political beliefs.

    • Submitted by Dana Dickson on 01/27/2019 - 07:46 am.

      Then change your behavior.

      • Submitted by Paul Yochim on 01/27/2019 - 10:34 am.

        Dana, this has nothing to do with my”behavior” as you put it. Your comment tells me that you have a fundamental issue with anyone who does not buy into your way of thinking. You need to realize that your political opponents are not evil. They just don’t share your opinion. To paraphrase Daniel Moynihan, you are entitled to your opinion but not your own facts. And didn’t Hubert Humphrey say Minnesotans believe in clean politics?

        • Submitted by Matt Haas on 01/28/2019 - 06:02 am.

          You seem to miss the point, no one is telling you not to be conservative (we all make mistakes), but to end the behavior that causes the reactions you list. You are always free to do as you like, within the bounds of legality, but are not free from any consequences that might arise from that behavior. The problem you seem to have is that you believe that YOU have the directive to tell others how THEY are supposed to interpret your actions, that YOU are the only being of importance in the discussion. Might you see how that could put people off?

  12. Submitted by Joe Musich on 01/26/2019 - 07:55 pm.

    And yet the writings of the man elicits minimal empathy. He was driven out on the neighborhood and yet some are continue to push people out. And I t’s not racism ? Or privilege. Well if it walks like a duck can it be a rooster also. maybe so. The trump paraphernalia was on display even before the national anthem. Some here say the liberals need to be more open minded. There is an other colloquialism that can be applied …..the pot calling the kettle black.

  13. Submitted by Rae Turner on 01/27/2019 - 04:41 am.

    Cognitive dissonance much?

    For instance, you say “Public support for President Trump means different things to different people. To his supporters this might simply be an expression of their patriotism, or their pro-life beliefs, or even a protest against the #MeToo movement. ”

    Or their non-racist desire to keep our country (and all diverse races within it) safe. Or their agreement with his economic policies (incredibly low unemployment rates). Or his desire to put our country (and all the diverse races with in it) first, in geopolitical negotiation. YES, there are MANY reasons why someone might support Trump. Good, I’m glad we can agree here.

    But then you say ” For many of us a Trump sign or a MAGA hat is the equivalent of a “Whites Only” sign. ”

    And that IS a problem. Despite the fact that Trump Support and MAGA means many different things to different people, and you are aware of that, you CHOOSE to ignore such knowledge and insist that Trump support can only mean one thing, racism.

    And the only reason you provide is that if someone supports Trump they must support ALL of him.

    Why? Who says so? What makes it so all or nothing? This isn’t some inconvertible truth.. this is just some arbitrary crap you’ve thrown out.. that you have chosen to believe, because it supports your narrative.

    People are complex, dynamic and multi-faceted. And some of us are capable of analyzing many factors, creating priorities, and supporting those priorities even if it means we compromise on lesser priorities.

    Most people who voted for Trump are not hateful racists. They were willing to let his unrefined, insensitive approach and questionable character (which all politicians have questionable character) slide because they wanted the campaign promises. A wall, not because of ‘racism’ but because of practicality and self-preservation. First priority, because of self-preservation.

    You have created improper and ungrounded symbol meaning, by your very own premises. And if that hurts your feelings, you need to go back and rationally sort it out.

    • Submitted by Dennis Wagner on 01/27/2019 - 10:15 am.

      Glad to see some folks, letting it rip so to speak! So to be fair and “rationally sort it out”. Seems there is a suggestion us, non-“T” supporters are irrational reactionaries! Fair enough. How some of us see the world. The inhabitants lie count is well over 7500 climbing every day, rationale folks do not support compulsive liars, 8 on “T’s” campaign and 25 associated Russians have already been indited, its not rationale that we have all this smoke and no fire. We are all immigrants or decedents of immigrants except or indigenous brothers, our southern border is at ~ 20 year low of “refugees”, the “self preservation” is what refugees are after, we are not under a threat of refugee invasion, that lie is also a racist rant against brown skinned folks,The Muslim ban in our perception is a raciest play, if you support the player, you support the actions. Isn’t there something biblical about loving they brother as thy self? The curve leading to the low unemployment was stated over 10 years ago, look at the facts, a suggestion that “T” is solely responsible for that number today is irrational. “Patriotism”, suggesting that “T” who dodged the draft because of bone spurs, and has what, 2-3-4, 3 & 4 star generals resign from the cabinet is an example of “patriotism” is irrational. As noted above “MAGA” is a meme pulled from the Fascist Dictator Mussolini, is there a suggestion we should start wearing swastika’s because they mean different things to different folks, symbols have meanings, Yes, people are complex etc. however we also have norms of behavior and decorum, “Most people who voted for Trump are not hateful racists” perhaps, or they may just think they aren’t because they create their own world of what racism looks like.Example, a tribal elder is not believable, but a 16 year old privileged white boy on a religious field trip to DC with a MAGA hat and a PR firm behind him is? Do a little juxtaposition and we have a 16 year old underprivileged African America boy with a hoody, on an equal rights field trip to DC is believable, but a upper income WASP evangelical is not! . “Why? Who says so? What makes it so all or nothing?” He’s the president or he is not the president, he sets an adjusts policy or he doesn’t. We choose to increase pollution, reduce oversight, give Trillions to the wealthy, increase the national debt, or we don’t, we vote for the entire package, the good the bad and the ugly. We all have to take ownership for our vote, for the entire package, then live with the results. Seems some folks aren’t happy with their package, its putting them in a bad light, well perhaps they should have taken a closer look, and a closer listen, and a closer rationale understanding of what they were voting for! .

    • Submitted by Matt Haas on 01/28/2019 - 10:03 am.

      Self-preservation? From whom, what? You live in the richest, most powerful nation on earth, need not fear crime, hunger, most communicable disease, the ravages of war, and have access to nearly everything you could ever want or need at the touch of a button. Depending on your age, this has always been the case. To think such to be threatened by the piddling concerns advanced by the modern right is baffling. It might be of use to stop for a moment and question WHY you are so afraid, while so many of us cannot even fathom your fear.

    • Submitted by Karen Sandness on 01/29/2019 - 01:54 pm.

      About those low unemployment rates–People are counted as employed even if they work part-time when they would rather work full-time, even if their job doesn’t pay enough to live on, even if their employer imposes harsh working conditions on them, even if they don’t get consistent hours from day to day, even if they have justifiable complaints and their employer forces them to watch anti-union videos, even if their employer KNOWS that the wages are too low and tells them to apply for food stamps.

  14. Submitted by David Lundeen on 01/27/2019 - 03:44 pm.

    I hate to say this, but everyone here who is trying to argue with the Trump supporters will never win. These people choose to live in a world where facts don’t matter, allow their insecurity to co-opted by Republican’s divide and conquer tactics and relish in their ignorance. I would be shocked if any of the Trump supporters here have actually read real conservative authors starting with William F. Buckley. Their hypocrisy is pathetically evident in everything they evince; from religion, to the ‘values’ they support, to their political beliefs (especially continual support for a mafia presidency and congressional sycophants in direct violation of the oaths sworn to the constitution). Gullible people like Gary will never leave their protective, Fox News safe zones so it’s no point in trying to reason.

    It must be noted that the supposed Jesus of Nazareth said to his followers that they must expect to be mocked for their beliefs, because their beliefs would appear to many to be ridiculous. In the case of people like a vulgar fraud like Gary, and others, it’s an obligation to state the despotism and anti-American sentiments in their statements.

  15. Submitted by Paul Yochim on 01/27/2019 - 07:31 pm.

    A lot of name calling here. You don’t agree with someone? Discredit them by calling them angry, misinformed, racist, sexist and them shout them down, per Saul Alinsky. Didn’t he say that ridicule has no antidote?

    • Submitted by ian wade on 01/28/2019 - 12:55 am.

      Saul Alinsky…another “boogieman” concocted by Republicans. All of these years and I’ve never heard a Dem mention him once, same with George Soros. Conservatives can’t stop talking about them.

  16. Submitted by Curtis Senker on 01/28/2019 - 08:50 am.

    We’d be as remiss as the media not to mention that the visiting team in Jordan had chosen to make a political statement by sitting in the locker room during the national anthem. Y’all want politics, just not politics you don’t agree with.

    “More recently, visiting students from Covington Catholic High School in Kentucky were filmed mocking a Native American elder in Washington…”

    Maybe this opinion was written before this story was outed as fake news, and before the leftist media tripped over themselves retracting their vile abuse of those kids. But all that had happened before it was published. Shame on you.

    • Submitted by Paul Udstrand on 01/28/2019 - 10:02 am.

      Yes, and I’m sure if the visiting team’s fans in the stands held up a: “Impeach Trump” sign the next time Jordon showed up for a game in the city, all would be well eh?

    • Submitted by Doug Duwenhoegger on 01/28/2019 - 01:28 pm.

      Did you know that professional football players were always in the locker room for the National Anthem until 2009 when the US Government started paying them?

      • Submitted by Curtis Senker on 01/28/2019 - 02:33 pm.

        So what? When it started, or why is irrelevant. In the current year, snubbing the anthem is a political statement, which opens the door for opposing political statements.

  17. Submitted by Frank Phelan on 01/28/2019 - 12:34 pm.

    But the statement written by the high powered PR firm said he wasn’t smirking.

    Who you gonna believe? A PR flack or your own lyin’ eyes?

    • Submitted by Doug Duwenhoegger on 01/28/2019 - 01:31 pm.

      I’d really like to see the videos those kids recorded that day. But I’m pretty sure they were instructed to delete anything that would put them in a bad light. There is a Twitter post by a young woman of those kids shouting Build the Wall at them, cat calling her and her friend then calling them sluts. Why wasn’t this widely released?

  18. Submitted by Joe Musich on 01/28/2019 - 10:48 pm.

    Some further reading regarding the claims that socialism has anything to do with this discussion in terms of facism. This is a report of an iincident and response to that incident in Texas. Here is the link ….

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