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D.C. Memo: It’s not a transcript. It’s a memo.

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to impeachment proceedings against President Donald Trump over a conversation the president had with the president of Ukraine regarding an investigation of Joe Biden’s son.

The D.C. Memo is a weekly recap of Washington political news, journalism, and opinion, delivered with an eye toward what matters for Minnesota. Sign up to get it in your inbox every Thursday.

Welcome to this week’s edition of the D.C. Memo. This week in Washington, impeachment is on everyone’s mind. Other things are going on, like all Minnesota members voting for the same bill and Klobuchar’s trip to Iowa, but you’ll have to read on for that.

Impeachment

All of it happened remarkably quickly: a whistleblower complaint alleging President Donald Trump misused his authority on a phone call with the Ukranian president, moderate Democrats backing impeachment, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreeing to go along with them, and the White House releasing the memo (not a transcript) noting what was said during the call.


What was said exactly? Trump maintains he did not imply that Ukraine would lose aid if they did not follow through on his request, but you can read it for yourself here. Here is an excerpt of two parts of the conversation:

President Trump (PG.2): I’ll say that we do a lot for Ukraine. We spend a lot of effort and a lot of time. Much more than the European countries are doing and they should be helping you more than they are. Germany does almost nothing for you.

President Trump (PG.4): There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it… It sounds horrible to me.

There is no public evidence of Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, committing wrongdoing. And Ukraine’s former prosecutor general told the Washington Post Thursday that Hunter Biden broke no laws.

On Thursday, the acting intelligence chief called the whistle-blower complaint “totally unprecedented” during testimony in front of the House. Pelosi has said that this is not the outcome she wanted, but plans to expedite the impeachment investigation, due to the president’s actions.

Republicans, like Rep. Tom Emmer of Minnesota’s Sixth, have gone back to prior talking points, using the impeachment push to try and tie the entire Democratic majority to socialism.

But Rep. Dean Phillips of Minnesota’s Third, a member of the moderate Problem Solvers Caucus, begs to differ, calling the President’s actions: “A betrayal of his oath, a betrayal of the Constitution, and a betrayal of every American.”

Collin Peterson’s impeachment vote

Speaking of, every single Democrat in the Minnesota congressional delegation said they support impeachment proceedings for President Donald Trump except for one: Rep. Collin Peterson. Peterson is the last original Blue Dog Democrat and the Representative for Minnesota’s Seventh District. Peterson said he has no intention of voting for an impeachment inquiry.

“If anyone thinks a partisan impeachment process would constrain President Trump, they are fooling themselves. Without significant bipartisan support, impeachment proceedings will be a lengthy and divisive action with no resolution,” Peterson said in a statement. Read more at MinnPost.


In 1998, Peterson supported impeachment proceedings against President Bill Clinton, but ultimately, not articles of impeachment. His reasoning, along with his Blue Dog colleague Gary Condit of California, was that Republicans didn’t make the case that impeachment was warranted.

“I don’t think they did that.” Peterson told the Weekly Standard in 1998, saying Republicans ran the inquiry poorly by not calling the proper witnesses. “They haven’t brought anything new to the table.”

High finance

In a rare show of legislative solidarity, every Minnesota House member voted for the SAFE Banking Act, which would make it easier for cannabis businesses to acquire bank accounts. There are only a few other states with bipartisan delegations all voting to support this bill: Nevada, New York, Oregon, Washington.

The vote was 321 to 103, with 229 Democrats and 91 Republicans voting in favor.

“Conflict between state & federal law means legal, legitimate marijuana businesses are forced to operate on a cash-only basis, creating serious risks for employees, business owners, & communities,” Rep. Betty McCollum of Minnesota’s Fourth District said on Twitter. “The #SAFEBankingAct will fix this problem and I’m proud to support it.”

Stacey Abrams in Minnesota

Stacey Abrams, Former Georgia gubernatorial candidate and founder of FairFight, an organization dedicated to stopping voter suppression, will be the keynote speaker at DFL Founders Day on Friday, December 6. The event is an annual DFL fundraiser and if prior trends continue, will be closed to the press, according to MinnPost statehouse reporter Peter Callaghan.

Jason Lewis’ dual loyalty comment

Accusing Jewish people of dual loyalties (to Israel and the country they live in) is an old anti-semitic trope. Republicans and moderate Democrats alike have criticized Rep. Ilhan Omar’s for saying:

“I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is OK for people to push for allegiance to a foreign country. I want to ask why is it OK for me to talk about the influence of the NRA (National Rifle Association), of fossil fuel industries or Big Pharma, and not talk about a powerful lobbying group that is influencing policies?”

Former Rep. Jason Lewis has criticized Omar for her language. But Lewis has said the words “dual loyalty” explicitly, something Omar did not do.

CNN’s KFILE reports that Lewis, now running for Senate against Sen. Tina Smith, “once said some Republicans have ‘dual loyalties’ to Israel” and that strong support for Israel is because of a “very strong American Jewish lobby.”

Lewis has not apologized, and Republicans in the House, like Emmer, who have attacked Omar, have not spoken out on Lewis’ comments.

The return of the return of Franken

Former Sen. Al Franken is going to host a radio show on SiriusXM, continuing his streak of return appearances and expanding out from his smaller podcast. Franken resigned from the Senate after being accused of sexual misconduct by eight women.

The President next door

I was in Iowa last weekend following around Sen. Amy Klobuchar from Cedar Rapids to Des Moines. Two big events to cover: the Polk County Steak Fry and the first LGBTQ candidate forum since 2007.

At the candidate forum, I spoke to students, caucus goers and government officials. One of them is Aime Wichtendahl, a Hiawatha city councilwoman and an honorary co-chair for the event.

“I think [Klobuchar] wasn’t as strong as some of the other candidates like [Sen. Elizabeth] Warren or [Sen. Cory] Booker,” Wichtendahl, the first openly trans elected official in the state of Iowa, told me. “I do think her best moments were talking about gun violence, talking to the survivor of the Pulse shooting — that was her most human moment. I think she connected on an emotional level with a lot of the audience.”

If you want to know more about the forum and what people thought… Read more at MinnPost.

In other news, Klobuchar’s campaign is running paid Twitter ads on the poll that shows Klobuchar with 8 percent support after the last debate, but every other poll tells a different story (between 0 and 3 percent in California, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire). Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s surge in most polls is also evident, surpassing Biden’s lead in Iowa with 22% of likely Democratic caucusgoers saying she’s their candidate.

Be on the lookout for my coverage of Klobuchar at the Steak Fry and beyond, where Klobuchar staffers had to place (and then pick up) what seemed like an infinite number of Amy for America (and Iowa) lawn signs.

In other news

  • Former San Diego Republican Rep. Darrel Issa, who retired from his own now-blue seat, is said to be making a play for an entirely different congressional seat: indicted San Diego Republican Duncan Hunter’s.
  • The first member of Congress to back impeachment, Rep. Al Green of Texas, said he feels “vindicated.” The most jarring thing I’ve seen on the House floor was Green essentially talking about impeachment to himself (and CSPAN) with an empty chamber behind him. It looks like that’s not likely to happen again.

Quote of the week

“It is impossible that the whistle-blower is a hero and I’m not. And I will be the hero! These morons — when this is over, I will be the hero,” Rudy Giuliani, the president’s attorney and former New York Mayor told Elaina Plott at The Atlantic.

What I’m reading

Michael E. Miller for the Washington Post: Immigrant kids fill this town’s schools. Their bus driver is leading the backlash.

In Worthington, residents are squabbling whether or not schools should be expanded to account for the influx of undocumented children. Worth a read if you want to get a sense of how some folks, far from the border, don’t like change (or people sometimes fleeing dangerous situations from other countries).

“They can call it whatever they want,” one resident said of the opposition to expanding the school system, “but the bottom line is that it is racism.”

Peter Callaghan for MinnPost: A power map of Gov. Tim Walz’s top staff

A deep dive into who actually works around the seat of executive power in Minnesota. Go for the reporting, stay for the fun scroll graphic that lets you see where each staff member’s office is.

That’s all for this week. Thanks for sticking around. Until next week, feel free to send tips, suggestions, and sound advice to: gschneider@minnpost.com. Follow at @gabemschneider. And don’t forget to become a MinnPost member.

Comments (41)

  1. Submitted by Henk Tobias on 09/27/2019 - 09:28 am.

    “It is impossible that the whistle-blower is a hero and I’m not. And I will be the hero! These morons — when this is over, I will be the hero,” Rudy Giuliani, the president’s attorney”

    There is a whole lotta crazy at the very top of this administration.

  2. Submitted by Connor OKeefe on 09/27/2019 - 10:12 am.

    I think lefty media does their fan base a disservice when they don’t put everything into the bigger context.

    Joe Biden started this thing when he acted in his official capacity as VP of the US to have the prosecutor investigating his son fired. This is all public record, and in Joe’s own words…

    “I remember going over (to Ukraine), convincing our team … that we should be providing for loan guarantees. … And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from (then Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko) and from (then-Prime Minister Arseniy) Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor (Shokin). And they didn’t. …

    “They were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, … we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, ‘You have no authority. You’re not the president.’ … I said, call him. I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. … I looked at them and said, ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.’ Well, son of a bitch. He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.”

    The people sure to take a hit in this is Joe Biden and the DNC.

    • Submitted by Brian Simon on 09/27/2019 - 12:11 pm.

      The problem with the “what about Biden” argument is that 1) it does not exonerate Trump, and 2) there’s no evidence that Hunter Biden actually did anything wrong. Of those, the first is the critical point: Trump’s behavior amounts to bribery, using military aid & US support for Ukraine as leverage to get Ukraine to dig up dirt on a political opponent. If Biden’s behavior is suspect too, let’s have that trial as well. The critical difference being that Biden is now a private citizen, while Trump holds the most powerful elected position in the world. He’s admitted to the behavior, he just insists it’s ok to extort foreign heads of state to further a domestic political agenda. The guy’s a crook & has to go. Maybe Biden’s a crook too, which is for the courts to figure out. For the POTUS, the only remedy is the impeachment inquiry in the house & potential trial in the Senate.

      • Submitted by Connor OKeefe on 09/27/2019 - 12:56 pm.

        Here’s the flaw in your “what about Joe” counter argument.

        Joe Biden’s son was the subject of an investigation. While acting as VP of the US, Joe not only used foreign aid to extort a foreign country to protect his son, he indicated President Obama was involved, and then bragged about it.

        Biden is running for President.

        Trump asked a foreign government to reopen a criminal investigation. He never implied their aid was tied to their compliance. If Joe had not acted as he did, Trump would never have had to bring the topic up. Finally, the US asks foreign governments to work with us in criminal investigations all the time.

        I’m betting the part of the country that does not subscribe to lefty ideology will see the difference. Im betting this is going to blow up in the DNC’s faces.

        • Submitted by Brian Simon on 09/27/2019 - 01:28 pm.

          One thing I don’t understand is why Rudy Giuliani is involved. My understanding is that he’s the President’s personal attorney. Why would Trump direct a foreign head of state to work with Giuliani on this? Shouldn’t this kind of investigation go through official channels, i.e. the state deparment & eventually the DOJ?

        • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 09/27/2019 - 01:56 pm.

          Joe Biden’s son was not the subject of an investigation. A company he was connected with was under investigation. Or, not so much, because the Prosecutor General was not doing much about investigating corruption (I know what they say now, but the Ukrainians are showing a remarkable talent for sucking up to Trump). Biden was not the only one urging the firing of this prosecutor. The US Ambassador had already recommended that the US lobby for his firing, and the EU was also interested in his removal.

          “Trump asked a foreign government to reopen a criminal investigation. He never implied their aid was tied to their compliance.”

          “We Ukrainians would like to talk about military aid.”
          “Okay, but there’s a favor I would like you to do.”

          Do you really believe that is not tying aid to compliance? Because if you do, I am from Amazon customer support and need to verify some transactions. Can you please send me your credit card number, with the expiration date and the 3-digit PIN on the back?

          • Submitted by Dennis Barrett on 09/27/2019 - 05:21 pm.

            As long as RBH is paraphrasing (or Adam Schiffing) the context of the conversation I’d like to ad an alternative conclusion of what was said. “We, the Ukranians would like to thank the US for it’s aid in cleaning up corruption.” “Yes, we also in the US would like you to do us a favor and insure that our people aren’t part of the problem.”

          • Submitted by Connor OKeefe on 09/30/2019 - 11:26 am.

            “Joe Biden’s son was not the subject of an investigation.”

            That’s not correct.

            “U.S. banking records show Hunter Biden’s American-based firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, received regular transfers into one of its accounts — usually more than $166,000 a month — from Burisma from spring 2014 through fall 2015, during a period when Vice President Biden was the main U.S. official dealing with Ukraine and its tense relations with Russia.

            The general prosecutor’s official file for the Burisma probe — shared with me by senior Ukrainian officials — shows prosecutors identified Hunter Biden, business partner Devon Archer and their firm, Rosemont Seneca, as potential recipients of money.”

            https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived

            I suspect we’re going to learn lots more about Hunter’s no-show job, and his father’s involvement in covering it up, in the coming weeks and months.

            • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 09/30/2019 - 12:21 pm.

              The “general prosecutor” quoted is Viktor Shokin, the one who was fired at the behest of the US, the EU, the International Monetary Fund, and the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development. There were protests against him in the Ukraine within a few months of his appointment partly because of his fight against anti-corruption watchdogs, and also because of his part in blocking prosecutions of those who shot at protesters during the Ukrainian Revolution of 2014.

              Now, he has an ax to grind. Trump’s fans, eager to find anything to bolster Our Beloved Leader, are helping him to grind it. The fact that he could be lying through his teeth to vindicate himself doesn’t seem to bother him (does lying really bother them at all?). The fact that he is a corrupt authoritarian likewise fails to give them pause (why would it?).

              Incidentally, his successor as Prosecutor General doesn’t think the Ukraine has any jurisdiction to investigate the Bidens any further. He has said that any “possible embezzlement” at Burisma “happened two or three years before Hunter Biden became a member of the board”.

              • Submitted by Connor OKeefe on 09/30/2019 - 01:13 pm.

                Oddly enough, in his recounting of the event Biden didn’t mention the EU, the International Monetary Fund, or the European Bank. The only other person Biden implicated in that mugging was President Obama (“call him”).

                The investigation has been hopelessly compromised. All we are left with are the statements made by Biden, which amount to a confession.

                • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 09/30/2019 - 01:33 pm.

                  Oddly enough, even though Biden never mentioned it, that was what happened.

                  Anyone who has ever been in criminal court knows that a confession is not accepted if the facts on which it is based are untrue.

        • Submitted by Robert Lilly on 09/27/2019 - 02:51 pm.

          The investigation into the company Hunter was involved with had been dormant for a year before Joe helped to get the prosecutor fired AND there is still not one credible source saying Hunter did anything criminal nor was he being investigated. Once again, Trumps apologists prove their arguments are baseless and without merit.

          • Submitted by cory johnson on 09/28/2019 - 12:17 pm.

            The investigations by the Ukraine into Bursima were not closed until January 2017.
            https://www.kyivpost.com/business-wire/john-buretta-us-important-close-casesagainst-burisma-nikolayzlochevskyiin-legally-sound-manner.html

            • Submitted by Connor OKeefe on 09/29/2019 - 10:12 am.

              The investigation was just reopened by Nancy Pelosi and the Democrat House caucus. The Senate should jump I with both feet, send some investigators over there to uncover the corruption Joe and Barack were so keen to keep quiet they resorted to extortion.

              The American people have a right to know.

              • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 09/30/2019 - 10:12 am.

                The Senate has no authority to do that.

                • Submitted by Connor OKeefe on 09/30/2019 - 11:11 am.

                  The Senate can request the DOJ appoint a special prosecutor; and they should. We need to get to the bottom of this thing.

                  • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 09/30/2019 - 11:26 am.

                    That is more than absurd. The DOJ appoints a special counsel when the investigation or prosecution of a person would present a conflict of interest. Joe Biden is no longer a governmental official, and his son never was.

                    Assuming that there was bribery here (your best case scenario), it was arguably a violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. The Goniff-in-Chief has declared that law to be a “horrible” law, one that makes the world laugh at us. I know that hypocrisy is no barrier to Trump or his followers, but it is something to ponder.

                    • Submitted by Connor OKeefe on 09/30/2019 - 12:28 pm.

                      That may be the flimsiest argument I’ve seen yet. Joe Biden was the VPUSA, and he is running for President. The question everyone wants answered is, did the VPUSA use his office and foreign aid to extort his son out of trouble, and what, if any, role did President Obama play?

                      Biden suggests Obama was all in (“call him”). Those are questions custom made for a special prosecutor to investigate.

                    • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 09/30/2019 - 01:35 pm.

                      In other words, forget what the law says. Our Beloved Leader demands our fealty!

  3. Submitted by Dennis Barrett on 09/27/2019 - 12:13 pm.

    This is the wording of the treaty signed by Bill Clinton with the Ukraine in 1992. Also ratified by Sen. Joe Biden.
    (“To the Senate of the United States: With a view to receiving the advice and consent of the Senate to ratification, I transmit herewith the Treaty Between the United States of America and Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters with Annex, signed at Kiev on July 22, 1998. I transmit also, for the information of the Senate, an exchange of notes which was signed on September 30, 1999, which provides for its provisional application, as well as the report of the Department of State with respect to the Treaty. The Treaty is one of a series of modern mutual legal assistance treaties being negotiated by the United States in order to counter criminal activities more effectively. The Treaty should be an effective tool to assist in the prosecution of a wide variety of crimes, including drug trafficking offenses. The Treaty is self-executing. It provides for a broad range of cooperation in criminal matters. Mutual assistance available under the Treaty includes: taking of testimony or statements of persons; providing documents, records, and articles of evidence; serving documents; locating or identifying persons; transferring persons in custody for testimony or other purposes; executing requests for searches and seizures; assisting in proceedings related to restraint, confiscation, forfeiture of assets, restitution, and collection of fines; and any other form of assistance not prohibited by the laws of the requested state. I recommend that the Senate give early and favorable consideration to the Treaty and give its advice and consent to ratification.”​
    WILLIAM J. CLINTON)
    http://www.congress.gov/106/cdoc/tdoc16/CDOC-106tdoc16.pdf

    • Submitted by Dennis Barrett on 09/27/2019 - 12:15 pm.

      Woops! (1999)

    • Submitted by John Evans on 09/27/2019 - 01:37 pm.

      Please connect the dots for us as to how the treaty relates to the current controversies regarding Trump’s actions as well as Biden’s earlier actions.

      • Submitted by Jon Kingstad on 09/27/2019 - 08:50 pm.

        Please note that this treaty says nothing about mutual assistance in the investigation of political crimes and corruption of the executive officers of the respective governments/states or the mutual assistance in providing campaign contributions for their respective re-elections. It’s almost-repeat almost- laughable (but really not at all) that no sooner had news of this conversation been shared with CIA officers familiar with US-Ukraine relations that one such officer merely questioned-emphasize questioned- whether this conversation was not a violation of US law. That was enough to circle the wagons in the Trump camp and begin to look for ways to purge this “spy” and “traitor.” The CIA whistleblower filed the “whistleblower complaint” only after learning that his naive actions in actually performing his duty by asking a competent superior might bring the Trump government down upon him. Maybe Trump’s conversation with the President of the Ukraine was completely innocent and a “nothingburger” as the right tries to portray it. But why then have White House and its lawyers try to suppress the facts and conceal the word-for-word transcript in computer records reserved for highly classified secrets if not to cover-up Trump’s illegal solicitation of a campaign contribution from a foreign government?

        • Submitted by cory johnson on 09/28/2019 - 08:43 am.

          Do any leftists really think Hunter was hired for his expertise in anything? And the whistleblower requirements were changed in August just so this person could report second hand information. Sounds legit to me.

          • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 09/30/2019 - 09:09 am.

            There’s a whole discussion to be had about the children of the rich or powerful being hired without regard to their qualifications.

            Or do you really think the Trump Sons were hired for their keen business acumen?

            • Submitted by joe smith on 10/01/2019 - 10:58 am.

              Trump’s sons were employed long before Trump became President and Trump wasn’t using tax payer money to push his sons career. Two huge points.

              • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 10/01/2019 - 11:51 am.

                Joe Biden did not “push” his son’s career. From a New Yorker profile:

                “As Hunter recalled, his father discussed Burisma with him just once: “Dad said, ‘I hope you know what you are doing,’ and I said, ‘I do.’ ””

                “Trump’s sons were employed long before Trump became President . . .”

                The lemonade stand the servants were ordered to patronize? Where else have Doug and Dinsdale been working?

                “. . . and Trump wasn’t using tax payer money to push his sons career.”

                Do they have security clearances? Does Jared Kushner?

  4. Submitted by cory johnson on 09/27/2019 - 07:19 pm.

    The favor he asked for was to investigate the Obama and DNC collusion with the Ukrainians in 2016. He did mention Biden as well but it wasnt the focus of the call.

  5. Submitted by Dennis Wagner on 09/27/2019 - 08:09 pm.

    Well lets look at reality, the Trumpies definitely prefer a dictatorship over a democracy, they only want law and order if the laws apply to others especially minorities. The corruption is right in front of their face, but hey, Trump and the Trumpies, just deny and deny, now they got the NRA working with the Russians, got Gullianni working with the Russians, got the corrupt president on tape and then call the folks that call him out as traitors, yep, the CIA, FBI all the intelligence networks we have are corrupt, but not the #1 corruption king, and these are the same folks that call themselves patriots, they prefer a Russian collaborating corrupt president to a democratically elected one. Guys and we don’t have to make this stuff up, they are proud to overthrow the US democracy for a Dictatorial Putin directed Oligarch run state! Looks pretty accurate from this vantage point.

    • Submitted by cory johnson on 09/28/2019 - 08:24 am.

      You missed the DNC memo: they’ve all moved on from Russia to Ukraine collaboration. I’m a funny guy in that I need evidence before I’m for overturning an election. The miscalculation Pelosi is making is most people, outside the rabid base, need it as well. Unless they produce an actual first hand witness this is nothing more than a Leninist show trial. No President of any party should be impeached based on second hand anonymous hearsay. And I realize that isn’t the technical standard in the Constitution, but the leftists need to keep it in mind if they want swing votes.

      • Submitted by Dennis Wagner on 09/29/2019 - 09:47 am.

        Actually Mueller said it was up to congress,or did we hear two different testimonies? Trump knew the Russians were helping and what did he do, ZERO, he was and is great with Russians interfering in our elections, May 2017 Oval office meeting. Overturn election? Trump is a criminal, so some folks are fine with criminals/traitors as some would see them running the country. The evidence is the evidence, congress has a responsibility to investigate, guess some folks think congress should shirk their job, just like the police should not investigate crimes, Guess some folks think the “elite” Trump should be above the laws, which should only apply to little people specifically minorities. Asking a foreign country to interfere in our elections is or is not against the law? Should law breakers be held accountable? 2nd Hand hearsay? So you are saying that the CIA, the Inspector General, the Director of National Intelligence (appointed by Trump) are all heretics? What do you recommend, burning at the stake? The so called right-wing Trump protectors need to keep in mind, that they are defending criminal behavior from the highest office and that could/will overturn our democracy and provide for a dictator/Russian oligarch type leadership of the country, all because they hate people that don’t think like them. Should politicians think about votes or upholding their sworn duty to protect the constitution,? Evidently your statement suggests votes are more important than the constitution. So much for: “We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor”

        • Submitted by cory johnson on 09/29/2019 - 07:59 pm.

          He didn’t break any laws based on the evidence so far. The impeachment inquiry is at best based on unseemly behavior alleged by an anonymous person who heard about it from another person(s).

          • Submitted by Dennis Wagner on 09/30/2019 - 09:41 am.

            “He didn’t break any laws based on the evidence so far.”
            “Innocent until proven guilty” So your point is what, he has to be proven guilty before congress can investigate? Congress is doing their constitutional job, they are investigating a valid whistle blower complaint, as above apparently you believe “the CIA, the Inspector General, the Director of National Intelligence (appointed by Trump) are all heretics?” You have already arrived at your conclusion: “The impeachment inquiry is at best based on unseemly behavior”, So congress should be done with their obligations correct? Just let the dictator go do what the dictator does because that is just Trump. We put these folks in place to discover wrong doing, just like police to root out crime, then when they do their job, and your favorite crook, Trump, is found out you claim they are crooked. Seems you shouldn’t believe your local law enforcement either. Or is it one set of laws for the elites and another for the common folks?

          • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 09/30/2019 - 10:15 am.

            “Unseemly behavior” can be grounds for impeachment.

            Article 10 of the Impeachment Articles brought against Andrew Johnson is amazingly prescient. It depicts Trump’s chief appeal to his devotees perfectly, albeit in florid Victorian prose.

            • Submitted by Connor OKeefe on 09/30/2019 - 11:14 am.

              You’re correct, sir. And I predict that standard will be used against every President from here on out whenever the House and the Executive are held by opposing parties.

              • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 09/30/2019 - 11:29 am.

                I suggest you read Article 10. It’s all about riling up the base:

                That said Andrew Johnson, President of the United States, unmindful of the high duties of his high office and the dignity and proprieties thereof, and of the harmony and courtesies which ought to exist and be maintained between the executive and legislative branches of the Government of the United States . . . did attempt to bring into disgrace, ridicule, hatred, contempt and reproach, the Congress of the United States . . . and in pursuance of his said design and intent, openly and publicly and before divers assemblages of citizens of the United States, convened in divers parts thereof, to meet and receive said Andrew Johnson as the Chief Magistrate of the United States, did . . . make and declare, with a loud voice, certain intemperate, inflammatory and scandalous harangues, and therein utter loud threats and bitter menaces, as well against Congress as the laws of the United States duly enacted thereby, amid the cries, jeers and laughter of the multitudes then assembled in hearing . . .

            • Submitted by cory johnson on 09/30/2019 - 11:20 am.

              Technically the House can impeach for whatever it wants. I’m sure swing voters in MI, PA, and WI who voted for Trump would love to see Dems impeach based on an anonymous source who heard things from other people.

              • Submitted by Dennis Wagner on 09/30/2019 - 01:24 pm.

                Evidently your statement suggests votes are more important than the constitution. So much for: “We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor” Party before principle & country.

              • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 10/01/2019 - 09:11 am.

                It’s funny because you think those voters actually like Trump.

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