If you can’t wait until Mr. Trump’s acceptance speech in Cleveland and if you missed his appearance last night on CBS, Donald Trump and Mike Pence were interviewed by Leslie Stahl on “60 Minutes.”
I’m not sure there’s much in it that I would call “news,” and maybe I’m too biased to notice all the smart, reasonable things that Trump said.
He lies, of course, for example claiming once again to have been against the Iraq War “from the beginning” — even though he can’t produce any evidence that he spoke publicly against it in advance and he did speak about it publicly in advance at least twice before the war started, saying he “guessed” he favored going to war in Iraq.
Trump also forgave Pence for having supported the war, although he blames Hillary Clinton for the same vote and, of course, forgives himself for lying about his own position.
Stahl, to her discredit, made no effort to confront Trump about that lie.
Pence spoke with unfettered approval of his new boss. He likes to call Trump things like “this good man.” But Pence actually didn’t get to speak very much. Trump gave long, rambling answers full of self-love but low on substance. Pence gave short non-answers of the type one has come to expect from politicians, and sought to sand the edge off some of the questions intended to highlight areas on which Pence and Trump have taken opposing positions. In fact, Pence never acknowledged disagreeing with Trump on anything, notwithstanding a clear and obvious record of policy differences.
Pence also got less time to move his lips because Trump constantly interrupted him and took over the portions of the interview that were supposed to be about introducing Pence to the nation.
It ended this way, with Trump’s shortest statement:
Pence: Donald Trump, this good man, I think will be a great president of the United States.
Trump: I love what he just said.