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Donald Trump is no Dwight Eisenhower

President Donald Trump
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The most recent measure shows President Donald Trump with 40 percent approval, 55 percent disapproval.

During what was advertised as a “cabinet meeting” Wednesday, the current occupant of the Oval Office brought in the media and treated them to a weird, deranged, self-aggrandizing ramble, in the course of which he claimed to be “the most popular president in the history of the Republican Party.”

He said a lot of other untrue things that will briefly occupy the fact-checking industry. It is truly hard for those among us who once thought that telling transparent self-glorifying falsehoods would not be good for one’s political career to understand Trump’s admirers’ delight in being lied to (and bragged at). But since he decided to brag about his historically high popularity, I thought I would just update my endless and boring Trump Approval Ratings Watch.

I never meant it to be so boring. But the truth is that, while Trump is nowhere near the most popular president in the history of the Republican Party, it is still the case that the minority of the country that approves of the job he is doing is neither growing nor shrinking significantly (which is what pretty much all of these updates, to date, have said, to my continuing surprise, although the level of surprise is declining).

Gallup hasn’t published a fresh weekly average of His Excellency’s approval rating for a couple of weeks, but this graph of its daily sampling will show that Mr. Trump is still “below water” (meaning more disapprovers than approvers) as he has been since roughly Inauguration Day.

The most recent measure shows him with  40 percent approval, 55 percent disapproval. It wanders a tad from week to week, but his disapproval stays in the 50s, occasionally scraping 60, and his approval number ranges from the middle 30s to the upper 30s, occasionally touching 40. It’s possible to detect some slight upward bias over recent months, but not enough to change the basic verdict: Very stable, but underwater.

Since it is he, not me, who raised the question of how this compares with previous, especially Republican presidents in history, you should know that approval ratings polling does not go back to the earliest Republican president, one Abraham Lincoln, nor any of the other bearded Republicans of the latter 19th century. But Gallup has numbers going back to the Harry Truman administration, and they are all viewable here. The Republican presidents covered include Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan and two Bushes. All of them had higher highs than Trump. Both Bushes had periods (associated with wars, which often create a rally-round-the-flag effect) when their approval that got into the low 80s. (Trump has never been above 50.) But for the consistent popularity over an extended period, the most approved-of Republican president was Dwight D. Eisenhower, whose highest approval number was 80 and lowest was 48.

It would be interesting bordering on phantasmagorical to imagine how Trump might explain how anything about his popularity was better than Ike’s. But, in truth, if you don’t torture the numbers, Trump’s overall record, especially the part about never being above water, would appear to be the worst of any Republican president (or any Democrat either) ever (although several of them had lower lows, like Nixon just before he resigned).

Comments (60)

  1. Submitted by Bob Barnes on 01/04/2019 - 10:48 am.

    Erik, did you ever once refer to Obama as the “current occupant of the Oval Office”? I highly doubt it. A little decorum and less hypocrisy would go a long way towards credibility. You may not like the President but he is still the President.

    Also, Trump is right around where Obama was at the same point in office and that has been the case for most of his time in office so far. Trump likes to brag, so what. It would be nice if any of them were like Ike. Trump’s campaign platform would have put him way up there with the best but he changed his stance on major issues once in office.

    • Submitted by Pat Terry on 01/04/2019 - 11:39 am.

      The word you are looking for isn’t “brag.” Its “lie.”

      • Submitted by james herzog on 01/04/2019 - 01:46 pm.

        Trump refuses to pay 800,000 federal workers because of maybe 300,000 illegal immigrants. His sycophants (Pence and all the other senior clowns in his admin) will get $10,000/year raises. Surely these are policies that will make American great again.

    • Submitted by Misty Martin on 01/04/2019 - 12:10 pm.

      Mr. Barnes: The correct spelling is “Eric” and when the “Current Occupant of the Oval Office” starts acting in a presidential manner, instead of that of a bragging, egotistical, misinformed child – then the rest of us might start to refer to him as President. Yes, he is our President, that sad fact is acknowledged – but he has destroyed whatever respect that office should command with his tweets and other non-presidential actions. Why his followers fail to see that is completely beyond me. I believe one (ANY ONE) should act with dignity and respect for others if one wants the same returned, and the Commander-in-Chief is no exception.

      • Submitted by Bob Barnes on 01/04/2019 - 03:10 pm.

        Your post is irrelevant in the fact that news reporters are supposed to be unbiased. Your same claims could easily be made about Obama. Have you forgotten things he said while in office? I haven’t. The point is that a reporter should be acting with a little more professionalism and not like a partisan hack if he or she wants to be taken as a credible reporter.

        • Submitted by Howard Miller on 01/04/2019 - 03:29 pm.

          Eric Black writes an opinion column. Well qualified to report, he doesn’t hesitate to express a view, and do so transparently.

          His is NOT the reporter’s job to dispassionately report events worthy of our attention. But were he to switch back to reporter mode, he’d be one of the best.

        • Submitted by ian wade on 01/05/2019 - 02:42 am.

          What did Obama say? I really want to know anything that he may have said that is remotely as egregious as numerous Trump quotes from the last six months alone. Please proceed.

          • Submitted by Steve Rose on 01/05/2019 - 10:56 am.

            1) If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.
            2) If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor
            3) The biggest whopper. Obamacare will save each American family $2500.

            Healthcare costs per American family have I increased $4500 per year. It is the lie that keeps on lying. It costs me and you every year. President Trump exaggerating his popularity keeps Mr. Black employed and in no way affects me. However, the past occupant of the Office continues to drain our wallets every year.

            • Submitted by John Evans on 01/05/2019 - 07:03 pm.

              Obamacare has definitely saved most insured households some comparable amount. You forget how fast health insurance rates were skyrocketing before Obamacare went into effect. Yes, they still increased, but by much, much less than they had been in the previous years.

              The stated goal was not to decrease rates, but to bend the curve of increase, and that curve got bent. noticeably.

              Remember, you haven’t yet seen what your insurance rates would be if Obamacare were really repealed.

              Why do you think the Republican majorities in the house and Senate wouldn’t actually do it?

              • Submitted by Steve Rose on 01/05/2019 - 10:01 pm.

                Three Senators, including the late John McCain, rebelled, resulting in a 49-51 vote.

                I’ve heard these same talking points offered in defense of Obama’s lies regarding Obamacare. Excuses for lies, but not truths.

                • Submitted by Paul Brandon on 01/06/2019 - 12:08 pm.

                  There’s a difference between what Obama proposed and what Congress enacted after input from the insurance lobby.
                  As Trump is finding out, Congress has the last word.

              • Submitted by Bob Barnes on 01/07/2019 - 10:10 pm.

                Prior to ACA, insurance premiums were going up around 8 to 10% annually. Since ACA, they’ve gone up as much as 100% annually. MN was even facing a 60+% increase in just 1 year.

            • Submitted by Dennis Wagner on 01/06/2019 - 09:39 am.

              Red Herring alarm! Please explain if the company you worked for changed Health Care Plans and your Doctor was not on the new network? With or without Obama care! This is so old so petty, so weak and so sad of an excuse. Its a far cry from “Trumps” The liar King, gum ball display, 700 days, 7,546 lies.

            • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 01/06/2019 - 04:47 pm.

              Those are all you have, aren’t they? To compare with the mendacity of Individual-1, you have to result to the same three sentences that conservatives have been trotting out for the past eight years. Three sentences, all basically part of the same statement.

              Three sentences, being the sum total of what you can dredge up for an eight-year presidency. Three. In 2018, Trump told an average of three lies every five hours.

              Tell me again how the two compare, and spare yourself the trouble of saying that you’re just pointing out the “hypocrisy.” No one believes that.

              • Submitted by Steve Rose on 01/06/2019 - 07:28 pm.

                Neither an exhaustive nor unabridged list of Obama, merely an example of substance.

                During his first state fo the union address, President Obama stated that lobbyists had been excluded from policy making jobs in his administration. By this time there were already many lobbyists working for the President, including a Goldman Sachs lobbyist as chief of staff at the Treasury Department and a Swiss banker lobbyist at the IRS.

                Why do people mistakenly think that Obama told no lies? Fawning journalists did not hold him accountable. He promised the most transparent administration ever, but made no attempt to deliver on that promise.

              • Submitted by Steve Rose on 01/07/2019 - 06:59 am.

                From the left leaning Washington Post, “Obama promised transparency. But his administration is one of the most secretive”.



                “But a thorough study from Martha Joynt Kumar, a retired Towson University professor, describes the administration’s strategy. The president does plenty of interviews, she writes — far more than any other president in recent history. But these interviews are tightly controlled and targeted toward specific topics, and, it seems to me, often granted to soft questioners. (All of this is a major shift from a time when news conferences and short question-and-answer sessions allowed reporters to pursue news topics aggressively and in real time.)

                More interviews, less accountability. Feet kept safe from the fire.

                Meanwhile, on media rights generally, the Obama administration hasn’t walked its talk. It has set new records for stonewalling or rejecting Freedom of Information requests. And it has used an obscure federal act to prosecute leakers. It continued the punishing treatment of a National Security Agency whistleblower, Thomas Drake (dismaying new details have emerged recently in book excerpts by John Crane, a former Pentagon investigator), and threatened to send the New York Times investigative reporter James Risen to jail for his good-faith insistence on protecting his confidential source.”

                The President attempted to create the appearance of transparency. Obama transparency is not just one unkept promise, it was a culture of a Presidency, woven into the fabric of an administration. Whether you want to call it a lie or a deception, it is significant, unlike a President bragging or exaggerating or making an ill-advised generalization in a Tweet.

                • Submitted by Dennis Wagner on 01/07/2019 - 11:40 am.

                  Thought the topic was “Trump” vs. Ike?

                  • Submitted by Steve Rose on 01/08/2019 - 07:07 am.

                    While Ike is in the title, many presidents are mentioned, including Truman, Nixon, Ford, Reagan and two Bushes. It hardly seems inappropriate that our most recent president might receive commentary when comparing presidents. Feel free to engage in the conversation, add a president if you wish.

                • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 01/07/2019 - 01:06 pm.

                  Trump has lied more than any President in recent memory. Your deflection and whining about the “fawning” coverage of Obama cannot charge the fact that Trump is seemingly incapable of telling the truth.

                  Can you argue that Trump is not a colossal liar? Can you even address that question without making reference to Obama?

                  • Submitted by Steve Rose on 01/07/2019 - 02:09 pm.

                    Definition of whining: Spot on criticism that liberals don’t like.

                    The central point of my commentary is lies of substance and consequences. I find ridiculous the counting of lies, which includes every Tweet which contains a brag or exaggeration. Obamacare was larded with lies and served up to the American people. Even Speaker Pelosi admitted that she didn’t know what was in it. What did the Washington Post say (linked in an upstream comment) about the Obama Presidency? It delivered secrecy and opacity. Thank you Margaret Sullivan for your refreshing honesty.

                  • Submitted by Bob Barnes on 01/07/2019 - 10:13 pm.

                    That is simply false. Obama was every bit the liar Trump is if not worse. You just weren’t keeping track because he was on your team.

                    • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 01/08/2019 - 09:22 am.

                      That is the most ridiculous thing I have heard this week, but it'[s only Tuesday morning. Trump has told more lies so far than Obama did in his eight years in office. You just choose to ignore Trump’s lies because–why? Tribal loyalty?

            • Submitted by ian wade on 01/07/2019 - 02:36 pm.

              So, three lines equates to this?

            • Submitted by Karen Sandness on 01/09/2019 - 03:57 pm.

              Bob Barnes and Steve Rose are operating right out of the right-wing playbook. “If you don’t have a position that will stand up to scrutiny, change the subject.”

    • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 01/04/2019 - 02:23 pm.

      What do we call the pleas for a “little decorum and less hypocrisy” that come from a supporter of the President who became a political figure by pushing the racist lie that there was any doubt about President Obama’s birth?

      On a more basic level, what do we call a Trump supporters plea for any level of “decorum?”

    • Submitted by Paul Brandon on 01/04/2019 - 04:01 pm.

      Good point.
      Trump should not be referred to as ‘the current occupant’ since in fact he has set new records for non-occupancy of that residence.

    • Submitted by Jim Bernstein on 01/07/2019 - 02:57 pm.

      Mr. Trump is truly a “fake” president. A man who clearly does not respect the office he holds and who lacks the integrity, honesty, dignity, compassion, and humility that the office demands is much more accurately termed “current resident” than President.

    • Submitted by Debra Hoffman on 01/11/2019 - 11:21 am.

      If a president is respectful of others, he deserves respect. Otherwise not so much.

  2. Submitted by Arthur Swenson on 01/04/2019 - 10:58 am.

    What is truly ;phantasmagorical is to attempt to compare Cadet Bone Spurs, the draft-dodger, with Dwight D. Eisenhower, the Supreme Allied Commander in charge of the European theater during World War II. As I understand it , “Ike” was basically non-partisan; a position he had developed throughout his military career. He was courted by BOTH Republicans and Democrats to be their Presidential candidate in 1948 (he declined), and finally decided to run as a Republican in 1952. The only thing he has in common with Bone Spurs is that he liked to play golf.

  3. Submitted by RB Holbrook on 01/04/2019 - 11:14 am.

    “It would be interesting bordering on phantasmagorical to imagine how Trump might explain how anything about his popularity was better than Ike’s.”

    You’re making the assumption that President Ananias von Munchausen would even try to make such an explanation. The idea that his disciples would ever expect, let alone demand, an explanation is even more fantastical.

  4. Submitted by Neal Rovick on 01/04/2019 - 01:13 pm.

    I picture a solitary figure wandering the White House in the past few weeks past, looking out the windows and musing , “It’s a big, big house. Except for all the guys out on the lawn with machine guns. Nicest machine guns I’ve ever seen.” “I was waving to them. I — I never saw so many guys with machine guns in my life.” “Secret Service and military, these are great people and they don’t play games. They don’t, like, wave. They don’t even smile.” “I think I would’ve been a good general, but who knows.” “What’s Mattis done for me?” “There is nobody who understands the horror of nuclear more than me.” “I could be the most popular person in Europe. I could be — I could run for any office if I wanted to, but I don’t want to.” “I know more about ISIS [the Islamic State militant group] than the generals do. Believe me.” “I know more about offense and defense than they will ever understand, believe me. Believe me. Than they will ever understand. Than they will ever understand.”

    Of course he believes he is the most popular President, because he could be the most popular person in Europe, if he wanted.

    A great general also.

    If only they could get that parade going…

    (all quotes from Trump)

  5. Submitted by Neal Rovick on 01/04/2019 - 03:00 pm.

    Shorter Trump, from press conference today…

    “I’ll use magical military eminent domain to extra-judicially permanently seize property from American landowners.”

    Something about that seems un-Presidential ? At least in the sense of the Constitution, all you conservative constitutionals ?

  6. Submitted by Stan Hooper on 01/04/2019 - 06:16 pm.

    I wonder if Eric has noted that the President is no longer as broad-based in his “most popular” statements as he was previously. He new restricts it to Republicans whose admiration of Trump is stronger than any other president. Could one find that statement to be accurate?

  7. Submitted by Tom Christensen on 01/05/2019 - 08:22 am.

    Weird, deranged, self-aggrandizing ramble, claims to be “the most popular president in the history of the Republican Party” is the definition of a Trump cabinet meeting. The meeting Eric talks about was not a one off meeting, it is Trump’s standard cabinet meeting. This is why he has people sign nondisclosure statements. He know he is not normal, but just can’t admit it. It is why most cabinet members have “acting” as the first word in their title.

    Congress needs to get to work on a bill that says all potential candidates for president must take and pass a comprehensive phycological test to make sure another Trump never happens to America again. The damage Trump has done to the country won’t be easy to repair. We need to make sure all Presidents come from this planet, have a good sense of what the job entails, have a desire to work for all citizens, have a sense of decency, respect, and compassion. Trump is nothing but a conman who is a bad actor.

  8. Submitted by Frank Phelan on 01/05/2019 - 03:18 pm.

    You must mean like the balanced and fair reporters on Faux News.

  9. Submitted by Dennis Litfin on 01/06/2019 - 06:24 pm.

    Trump would not make the grade as an orderly for General Eisenhower. Ike would have him in the brig for insubordination.

  10. Submitted by Edward Blaise on 01/07/2019 - 09:21 am.

    As Trump closes in on the final destruction of the fine Obama economy he inherited through unnecessary trade wars, deficit busting uneeded tax cuts, radically unpredictable behavior in matters foreign and domestic, unprecedented staff turnover and general chaos, he has retreated to full blown visions of grandeur that he sincerely believes:

    “I am the most popular R President ever”
    “No administration has ever matched our accomplishments in their first 2 years”
    ” I think I would have made a great General”

    Hans Christian Andersen foretold it exactly:

    “A vain emperor who cares about nothing except wearing and displaying clothes hires two weavers who promise him they will make him the best suit of clothes. The weavers are con-men who convince the emperor they are using a fine fabric invisible to anyone who is either unfit for his position or “hopelessly stupid”. The con lies in that the weavers are actually only pretending to manufacture the clothes. Thus, no one, not even the emperor nor his ministers can see the alleged “clothes”, but they all pretend that they can for fear of appearing unfit for their positions. Finally, the weavers report that the suit is finished and they mime dressing the emperor who then marches in procession before his subjects. The townsfolk uncomfortably go along with the pretense, not wanting to appear unfit for their positions or stupid. Finally, a child in the crowd blurts out that the emperor is wearing nothing at all and the cry is then taken up by others. The emperor realizes the assertion is true but continues the procession.”

    • Submitted by Steve Rose on 01/07/2019 - 09:54 am.

      The fine Obama economy? The one that existed at no time during his 8-year presidency. You do realize that this is the midpoint of Trump’s term?

      Headline: “312,000 Jobs Added In December, Manufacturing Growing 714% Faster Under Trump Than Obama”


      The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics released its December jobs report Friday morning, showing nonfarm employment was up by 312,000, stronger than analysts expected.

      The impressive jobs number, along with the Fed signaling patience on rate hikes, shook the stock market loose from its doldrums, with the Dow posting a 747-point gain.

      With the December jobs number, President Trump now has two full years of economic performance to compare with his predecessor, President Obama. The two biggest statistical standouts are:

      Manufacturing jobs are growing at a 714% faster clip under Trump than over a similar time under Obama , and;

      Under Obama, federal state and local government employment grew 6 times faster than did manufacturing jobs, while under Trump, that ratio has been reversed, with manufacturing jobs growing 5 times faster than government jobs.

      Looking at jobs added over the 24 months through this December and comparing that with the last two years of the Obama Administration is illuminating—both for the pace of employment expansion in the late stage of a business cycle, as well as for the composition of the jobs added.”

      I know that Obama needs a legacy, but this isn’t going to be it.

      • Submitted by Edward Blaise on 01/07/2019 - 10:38 am.

        Slope is slope my friend.

        Here are 20 charts from a Bureau of Labor Statistics publication, appropriately titled:

        “Charting the Labor Markets”

        Look at all 20 and you will see that while a change in slope can be seen from Bush to Obama, the Obama to Trump transition shows continuity from Obama.

        Of course, we’re only 2 years in and the true Trump effect is still coming.


        • Submitted by Steve Rose on 01/07/2019 - 01:26 pm.

          Thanks for the charts.

          Because it accounts for chronically unemployed workers (no longer in the unemployment denominator because of time), the most meaningful measure of employment is Civilian Labor Force Participation. See Graph 2. A precipitous drop (negative slope) through the Obama presidency; which leveled and stayed steady under Trump. A negative slope is a negative slope.

          • Submitted by Edward Blaise on 01/07/2019 - 02:23 pm.

            And the leveling of labor force participation began in 2013 carrying on to today. The chart does distort change thru an amplified scale: from the beginning of Obama’s second term to today we are taking total variation of +/- .5%: 6 years of flatness…

            If you hope to argue that trade wars, soaring deficits, inconsistent messages foreign and domestic and unprecedented staff turnover are the keys to building a strong economy, good luck with that.

            Trump’s handling of our economy is very much in sync with his handling of his Fred Trump inheritance: in both cases, just putting it on auto pilot and disappearing to some Caribbean Island and never injecting a single opinion or action would have produced more favorable results.

            • Submitted by Steve Rose on 01/08/2019 - 11:25 am.

              The precipitous fall in labor participation rate begins in early 2009, which un-coincidentally coincides with the beginning of Obama’s failed $836 Billion stimulus ARRA. The steep negative slope continues through all three fiscal years of this massive debt accumulation. This is legacy stuff.

      • Submitted by ian wade on 01/07/2019 - 02:50 pm.

        Interesting that every time solid job numbers came out for Obama, the GOP claimed that the “books were cooked.” Now they’re Gospel. In that December jobs report, 38,000 were manufacturing, however the previous month NO MANUFACTURING jobs were created. Health care had the most with 58,000 and leisure/hospitality at 54,000. No coal jobs though…I guess coal ain’t coming back after all.

  11. Submitted by Terry McDanel on 01/07/2019 - 10:20 am.

    I appreciate Bob Barnes’ in support of Mr Trump or Steve Rose’s comment comparing Mr Obama, but it testifies poorly to the readership of the MinnPost. Mr Trump’s approval rating, as noted in the opinion article, has consistently run at about 40%, but look at the percentage of supporting comments here … Mr Barnes & Mr Rose. Maybe 7%

    The MinnPost is yet another modern media silo, where readers of common belief come together to reassure each other of their common “insights” and their indignant self-righteousness, for those willing to venture outside the Washington Post. Sadly marketing required for survival, like Mr Phelan’s “Faux News” necessitates as much.

    None of this helps me understand the phenomena of Mr Trump’s consistent 40% approval. I am sure most of the commenters above would dismissively assert their compatriot’s ignorance, or stubbornness, or, if all else is not satisfying, stupidity. But the reality is that, as a nation, we have made many mistakes but never before blindly refused to learn from them. Half of our nation is not “stupid”. We are, by and large, good people who would pull each other out of a ditch, if needed, have helped each other out with our pocket books, have even offered up our lives just for the idea of a nation.

    But this article is nothing but intellectual vanity, which it is oddly self-aware of. “I thought I would just update my endless and boring Trump Approval Ratings Watch.”
    What is going on with all this country now?

    Perhaps it is the unfolding of a vast Greek play. Hubris seems to be the theme, with not one but two choruses, both deaf.

    • Submitted by Edward Blaise on 01/07/2019 - 12:39 pm.

      “But this article is nothing but intellectual vanity, which it is oddly self-aware of. “I thought I would just update my endless and boring Trump Approval Ratings Watch.”
      What is going on with all this country now?”

      Eric is providing us with the valuable and continuing insight that:


      Attribute Trump behavior to any past President and there would be true outrage and red flags. The simple frequency of abnormal behavior has overwhelmed and numbed us.

      Imagine if GWB or BHO said they knew more than the Generals or would have been a great General if they chose to do so.

      Or the simple, flat out lies that just get passed over because of their frequency.

      Or had Trumpian levels of staff turnover and the ensuing back biting.

      Or the frequency of criminal indictments, guilty pleas and prison sentences.

      Or admitting hundreds of thousands of dollars of hush money paid out in the weeks leading up to the election likely buying a victory.

      Or, Or, Or, and we have not even got to Mueller.

      Again, this ain’t normal and 40% of the country should not pretend it is.

    • Submitted by Matt Haas on 01/07/2019 - 08:40 pm.

      We are, by and large, good people who would pull each other out of a ditch, if needed, have helped each other out with our pocket books, have even offered up our lives just for the idea of a nation.

      Therein lies the crux of your misunderstanding. This notion that you hold is naught but an intellectual rationalization to help cope with the ugly reality on display daily. The sad part is that it has never really been this way, those sorts of accommodations have always been reserved only for those in close association and or similar cohort, it’s just that in the past, the average person’s exposure to those outside their protective sphere was far less than is the case today with our omnipresent digital media and 24-7 news cycle.

      • Submitted by Steve Rose on 01/09/2019 - 07:16 am.

        “The sad part is that it has never really been this way, those sorts of accommodations have always been reserved only for those in close association and or similar cohort”

        Really? Is that you or is that the America is which we live? That doesn’t sound like an America in which 40,000 people donate their blood everyday. People give it freely, without remuneration, simply because they have it and someone else needs it.

  12. Submitted by scott gibson on 01/07/2019 - 12:34 pm.

    To Mr. McDaniel,
    If you’re expecting internet posters to reflect overall national opinion on a given website, you must be using a different web than I do. I agree that continual rehashing of Trump’s untruths & exaggerations is tedius and accomplishes little.
    I would like to claim, for my part, that opposition to Trump stems from actions that I would not classify as political, while support for Trump seems to be highly political. I feel Trump has been the worst possible person to be president for reasons that are not Republican / Democrat conservative / liberal. I don’t think his supporters feel that people like me are sincere in framing it that way. When the ‘what-about’-ism of Obama comes up, it often drifts into personal attacks on his presidency (not policy gripes) that I feel are complete fantasy. Most of the time, at MinnPost, posters DO stick to policy disagreements.

    • Submitted by Bob Barnes on 01/07/2019 - 10:29 pm.

      Trump won because he wasn’t just another politician. Bush took us into needless wars. Obama spent ridiculous amounts of money and never even tried to fix the actual problems. He also forced ACA on this nation against the will of most. Politicians weren’t listening to the people. Unfortunately, Trump dropped his 2 most important promises (actually fixing healthcare by going after the monopolies, and getting rid of all the illegals) and became just another Obama/Bush/Clinton/Reagan/Carter style politician. He has maintained the status quo for all the major things the govt does (spending continues to increase unabated, debt piles up unabated, none of the criminal activity in healthcare or other sectors etc).

      • Submitted by Dennis Wagner on 01/08/2019 - 10:43 am.

        He won because as they say he is a “charlatan”, and a quirk in our election system. Remember he lost the popular vote by over 3M votes, neither of which Ike had any problems with.

  13. Submitted by Steve Rose on 01/10/2019 - 09:06 pm.

    MinnPost Fact: Comments are always broader than the column.

    Yet, a common complaint posted in response to the infrequent conservative views posted is that they are off topic or subject changing. It is true that dissenting views spoil an otherwise perfect echo chamber, where columnist and commenter are in one accord. But, intolerance of opposing views drives engagement down, promotes silos, silage and yesterday’s silage.

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