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Why Tara Reade’s allegations have left many wondering just what to think

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Former Vice President Joe Biden
I haven’t been able to figure out anything useful to say about Tara Reade’s allegation that Joe Biden sexually assaulted her, so I’ve said nothing, waiting for either clearer evidence or inspiration about how to treat her allegations.

“Believe the women” is a nice slogan, but what are the limits?

A piece published in Vox on Thursday helped a bit, not in reaching any conclusions about what really happened but in understanding why it is so hard to know what is going on (or went on) in this instance.

Laura McGann, editorial director of Vox, has been talking to Reade for more than a year, trying to authenticate her allegations, and has been unable to do so. She has had occasion to go back to Reade more than once to, for example, ask why her account has changed so much, and why she formerly said that that Biden had made her “uncomfortable” but specifically ruled out that Biden had sexually assaulted her or committed any other action that could be fairly described as “sexual assault,” or, perhaps, even sexual “misconduct.”

Here’s a paragraph from McGann’s piece, drawing on a year of conversations with Reade and investigating her complaints against Biden:

Reade told me that she wanted me to think of this story as being about abuse of power, “but not sexual misconduct.” Her emphasis was on how she was treated in Biden’s office by Senate aides, who she said retaliated against her for complaining about how Biden touched her in meetings. “I don’t know if [Biden] knew why I left,” she said. “He barely knew us by name.”

If you were a reporter who had had that conversation with Reade, and she later told you that Biden had actually penetrated her with his finger against her wishes, how would you decide whether to believe her? How far does the recent slogan “believe the women” go, when you are dealing with a woman who told you that — and now makes a more serious claim of sexual assault?

If, like me, you’ve been struggling to figure out what to make of this matter, and of Biden’s flat denial of her allegations, you should read the whole Vox piece, but even if you have adopted the recommendation that women making such allegations should be believed, McGann’s article will leave you still trying to figure out this case.

McGann also wrote:

If Reade had told a consistent story and shared all of her corroborating sources with reporters, if those sources had told a consistent story, if the [early reporting on her allegations] had shaken loose other cases like hers, or if there were “smoking gun” evidence in Biden’s papers, her account might have been reported on differently in mainstream media a year ago.

It is not fair to an individual survivor that their claims require an extraordinary level of confirmation, but it’s what reporters have found is necessary for their stories to hold up to public scrutiny and successfully hold powerful men accountable. So we are here.

Yes, here we are.

And not just here with Biden, but with Biden as the alternative to you-know-whom.

McGann acknowledged that aspect of the dilemma as well, for example, here:

Many liberals have said now and during the [Al] Franken saga that the Democratic Party has held itself to a ridiculous standard. Donald Trump has admitted on tape to what Reade accuses Biden of doing and still denies the accounts of more than 20 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct. And given that the goal of beating Trump is paramount this fall, some see dwelling on an accusation that has yet to be definitively proven as a damaging distraction.

McGann’s full Vox piece, headlined “The agonizing story of Tara Reade” is here.

Comments (49)

  1. Submitted by Bob Barnes on 05/08/2020 - 09:38 am.

    If you believed Christine Ford then you must believe Reade (who has more evidence and witnesses than Ford had). It’s the hypocrisy that most find so appalling. There’s also more than one woman accusing Biden of these things. So if you believe Trump is guilty you also have to believe Biden is guilty too. You can’t have such a double standard and expect to have any credibility.

    Reade’s claims should be investigated as should all such claims. But to give Biden a free pass without any such investigations is absurd.

    • Submitted by Pat Terry on 05/08/2020 - 11:23 am.

      I think its absolutely fair to complain about hypocrisy when comparing the Kavanaugh situation.

      But Trump has been accused by dozens of women of more serious misconduct, and has admitted on tape that he sexually assaults women.

      • Submitted by Elsa Mack on 05/08/2020 - 12:30 pm.

        This is also a good point. Even if Biden did everything Reade (now, sometimes) claims, it is still less than Trump has been accused of.

        To be honest, if the 2020 election ends up being a choice between two rapists, I’ll still vote for the Democratic one.

    • Submitted by Paul Brandon on 05/08/2020 - 11:31 am.

      Ford had witnesses who saw and described Kavanaugh’s offensive behavior.
      The closest that Reade has come to corroboration is a few people who remember her making the claim; not witnessing the claimed sexual assault.

      • Submitted by Elsa Mack on 05/08/2020 - 12:24 pm.

        Yes. In addition, Ford was willing to undergo a polygraph and to testify under oath.

        • Submitted by Tom Crain on 05/09/2020 - 10:00 am.

          Reade has offered to take a polygraph and testify if Biden does.

          • Submitted by Jason Jones on 05/14/2020 - 08:44 am.

            Polygraph tests are not scientific and prove nothing. A nervous innocent person registers the same as a nervous guilty person. Reade is only doing this because she knows Biden will say “No” which allows them to counter with “What do you have to hide!?”
            And are we all forgetting the Medium article she wrote about Putin which was tantamount to a love letter? She’s only here to try to hurt Bidens chances of winning.

      • Submitted by Bob Petersen on 05/08/2020 - 12:57 pm.

        Ford had three witnesses. They testified that they have no recollection of anything during the party and accused behavior that was in question and have never changed from that.

      • Submitted by Bob Barnes on 05/08/2020 - 01:43 pm.

        Wrong. Ford had zero witnesses. She couldn’t even remember most of the details herself. As for Reade, there are now some court documents that appear to substantiate her claims, there’s a story on it at The Hill.

        • Submitted by Pat Terry on 05/08/2020 - 03:22 pm.

          It may support one of her multiple versions of the story, but undermines her latest claim that there was a sexual assault.

    • Submitted by Edward Blaise on 05/08/2020 - 12:15 pm.

      “It’s the hypocrisy that most find so appalling”

      Can’t disagree there:

      Alva Johnson
      Cassandra Searles
      Cathy Heller
      E. Jean Carroll
      Ivana Trump
      Jennifer Murphy and Juliet Huddy
      Jessica Drake
      Jessica Leeds
      Jill Harth
      Karen Johnson
      Karena Virginia
      Kristin Anderson
      Lisa Boyne
      Mariah Billado and Victoria Hughes
      Melinda McGillivray
      Natasha Stoynoff
      Ninni Laaksonen
      Rachel Crooks
      Samantha Holvey
      Summer Zervos
      Tasha Dixon and Bridget Sullivan
      Temple Taggart

    • Submitted by lisa miller on 05/08/2020 - 04:37 pm.

      Each allegation must be looked at on its own. The issue is that Biden is not in the Senate and there is no clear procedure on how to investigate. Personally I can’t help but notice how Biden has handled it vs Kavanaugh–Biden is not blaming, no trashing of character. Reade admits she did not claim back then actual sexual harassment so that is another issue; her story has changed per several witnesses–not just leaving out details which can happen with trauma. Biden’s co workers also don’t recall any history such as Kavanaugh had of drinking. Then again we could do what McConnell did and selectively choose witnesses and limit the questions. At any rate, this is the issue with 30 yr old claims that were not reported to police and where there is no employment process to review the allegation fairly–it cannot be tried in the media that much is for sure.

  2. Submitted by Jim Tingsdale on 05/08/2020 - 09:44 am.

    “Laura McGann, editorial director of Vox, has been talking to Reade for more than a year, trying to authenticate her allegations, and has been unable to do so.”

    Well, she wasn’t trying very hard. Corroborating evidence has been appearing almost daily, and the latest one involves a court document mentioning the abuse and identifies Biden by name.

    Many Democrats (even many women) have taken the track of admitting yeah, they believe Reade, but are going to vote for Biden anyway. Of course it nullifies the faux outrage they expressed, past and future against many GOP pols, including Trump, but I can appreciate the honesty in that approach.

    At this point, flimsy denials look pathetic and will to come to no good end.

    • Submitted by Pat Terry on 05/08/2020 - 10:52 am.

      I don’t think you read either McGann’s story or the one you cited, which points out that is does not identify Biden other than she worked in her office. And again, this is something that undermines the claim that she was sexually assaulted. McGann isn’t saying she found nothing. She is saying the story told by Reade and her corroborators have changed.

  3. Submitted by William Hunter Duncan on 05/08/2020 - 10:06 am.

    I am not sure what to believe about Tara Reade’s accusation, though I lean toward believing her because Joe Biden has long been accused of being at the very least “handsy” with serious paternalistic boundary issues, and he has long gotten a free pass from the media and Democrats about it.

    I suppose too I lean toward believing her because I simply don’t like Joe Biden, and find a great disconnect between his public persona and his actual legislative history. He is called sometimes “working class Joe”, ostensibly because of the way he grew up, despite the fact that just about everything he has done as a legislator has been great for corporations, banks and billionaires, and so very bad for working people.

    What is most disturbing about this is how flawed a presidential candidate Biden has been since he first started running so very long ago, and yet Dems have put him forward in 2020, well past his prime, like he is some great standard-bearer destined to defeat evil Trump, as oblivious to Biden’s deficiencies as a candidate and his legislative history, as they have been about his handsiness.

    • Submitted by richard owens on 05/09/2020 - 04:46 pm.

      you say, “… I lean toward believing her because Joe Biden has long been accused of being at the very least “handsy” with serious paternalistic boundary issues…”

      That makes you an accuser without evidence.

      Biden’s “reputation”? rumor?
      He was “accused”? formally? was a comaplint filed?

      As a matter of principle, public behavior of this nature (your post) is IMHO, an act of character assassination, allowing no response from the target.

      You hadn’t mentioned you were “moving along” until you added “typical patriarchal white male”.

      Your ambivalent style is not ethical commentary. Words can be very damaging. Al Franken and Kristen Gilibrand both lost their careers for something similar. Reactionary elements “won” and the #METOO movement was damaged too.

      I am offended, and ask you to refrain from character assassination or supporting rumors and innuendo while we try to win with a flawed but decent man.

      We need to be better than this.

  4. Submitted by Paul Udstrand on 05/08/2020 - 10:15 am.

    This article is a case in point for those of who are increasingly worried about Biden’s ability to defeat Trump. We’re only looking at this because Biden isn’t giving us anything to else to look at. Sanders dropped out so ‘Biden could take the field… and instead he’s gone AWOL. This is an election year, and the media abhors a vacuum, if there’s nothing else to talk about, THIS is what happens.

  5. Submitted by BK Anderson on 05/08/2020 - 10:26 am.

    The “election” of (admitted!) sexual predator Donald Trump (without the slightest concern by the self-professed religious element of the party/movement) has made clear that 46% of the electorate views such allegations as being irrelevant to consideration of fitness for office. Repub nominee Trump forever ended the application of “family values” standards to a candidate (to the extent it was ever taken seriously by “conservatives”).

    Of course, the conservative movement’s total unconcern (indeed, mockery) of judicial nominee (now Justice) Brett Boofer’s accuser only reinforces this point.

    By being abject hypocrites over Trump’s boasting of sexual assault, and completely ignoring/mocking the allegations against him conservatives (actually all Trump supporters) have no moral basis to charge Biden supporters with hypocrisy, whatever the truth or falsity of the allegations. Hypocrites cannot be heard to scold hypocrisy.

    The only question will be to what degree the nation’s media decide to apply the sort of double standards that Clinton was judged by (“But her emails!”) to Biden.

  6. Submitted by Dennis Wagner on 05/08/2020 - 10:27 am.

    Well, if “uncomfortable” is the new standard, not sure I know anyone that hasn’t felt uncomfortable at one time or another, male or female. As the evidence goes, it moves around and is inconsistent. Of course, our right wing media is going to take that and develop it into a Full Monty, while claiming, see worse than Trump! Curious if she has a $130,000 check and a non-disclosure agreement? .

  7. Submitted by Ray Schoch on 05/08/2020 - 10:41 am.

    Yes, I’m an old white male, but I’m’ an old white male with multiple sisters, more than one of whom had reason to delve, unwillingly, into this subject when they were younger, and I am not unsympathetic to the “believe women” viewpoint.

    There are plenty of reasons to suspect some powerful men (and some similarly powerful women) in this context of sexual misconduct, and far too many women with genuine and verifiable grievances have been ignored over the years – and continue to be ignored. The adolescent male behavior I observed in the hallways of a middle-class high school 30 years ago would put a lot of adult males in a courtroom right now. That said, however, “believe women” doesn’t – or, I’d argue, shouldn’t be allowed to become – an automatic assumption that any and all allegations of sexual misconduct are, ipso facto, absolutely true.

    When it devolves to a “he said – she said” situation, I confess I have no easy answer beyond taking the woman’s complaint seriously, and investigating it on its merits via relevant authorities (some of whom ought to be women). I’m on board with the notion that people who seek high office ought to be above reproach in this regard (which obviously leaves out Mr. Trump), but at the same time, accusation can’t automatically be viewed as conviction. Due process is required, and while fairness to the accuser ought to be guaranteed, so should fairness to the accused. No more, but no less in each case.

  8. Submitted by joe smith on 05/08/2020 - 10:42 am.

    We know what to think because we saw the Kavanaugh hearings. If you are a conservative, you want due process for both accused and accuser. If you are a liberal, you believe all women…. Have something changed since Kavanaugh hearings?

    • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 05/11/2020 - 11:22 am.

      Can you please tell us what “due process” means in this context? The Constitution refers to it only with respect to a deprivation of life, liberty or property.

      A nominee for the Supreme Court is not being deprived of life or liberty (although some justices may disagree). Was Kavanaugh being deprived of property? Did he have some entitlement to a seat on the Supreme Court by dint of being nominated?

  9. Submitted by Pat Terry on 05/08/2020 - 10:45 am.

    Its hard to talk about this without being overwhelmed by the politics. We have supporters of Donald Trump, who has faced far more and serious sexual assault allegations (and admitted to p***y grabbing) now talking about believing women. The most fervent believers of the accuser on the left mostly seem to be supporters of Biden’s primary rivals. And many people who were very vocal in support of Christine Ford at the Kavanaugh hearings have gone quiet. Hypocrisy and disingenuousness abounds on all sides. Myself included.

    As an attorney who has defended people in court accused of things they did not do, of course I don’t believe all accusers in that context. Of course I am going to examine the motivations and credibility of accusers. The same should be true in the real world, whether the accused is Biden or Kavanaugh, Trump or Al Franken. Was I saying this when Kavanaugh was being accused? Unfortunately, I was not.

    I read the piece Eric discusses, as well as some that are less sympathetic and delve in to the accuser’s now-deleted social media history, and to say she lacks credibility is an understatement. Her claims certainly won’t stop me from voting for Biden.

    The problem is that we aren’t in court. We are in the political arena. And my only concern is beating Donald Trump, and unlike Bill Clinton – who faced his own misconduct allegations – Biden is not an otherwise very strong candidate. His less serious – but still inappropriate – touching of women opens the door for people to take a claim like this more seriously than they otherwise should. Biden is polling well now and dominated the primaries, but I worry about where we are after Trump spends a couple hundred million in targeted social media ads. Trump doesn’t have to win people over. He just has to get them to stay home. I really don’t know what to think.

    At some point this stuff is going to be weaponized. That happened against Al Franken, although his own behavior opened the door to it. Apparently a woman made a sexual assault allegation against Dr. Fauci. She then recanted and admitted that she was paid by Trump supporters to lie.

  10. Submitted by Ron Gotzman on 05/08/2020 - 10:49 am.

    All Biden has to say about these allegations is “I do not recall ever meeting THAT woman.”

    People will believe that statement for obvious reasons.

  11. Submitted by Paul Brandon on 05/08/2020 - 11:37 am.

    Note that Reade has a possible motivation:
    As a Sanders supporter, she may feel that if Biden is dropped as a candidate then Sanders would replace him.
    Personally, I think it’s more likely that the nod would go to one of the VP candidates:
    Harris, Klobuchar or Whitmer.

  12. Submitted by David Markle on 05/08/2020 - 11:52 am.

    Biden should authorize a blue-ribbon investigation of his Senate records. That would help resolve this controversy, one way or the other.

  13. Submitted by Gene Nelson on 05/08/2020 - 12:14 pm.

    I wonder why us Dems are so willing to believe Kavanaughs and trumps accusers but not Biden’s.
    Then again, look at the reported appx 25 sex abuse issues against trump who claimed he could grab a woman, who also has a reported rape accusation of a minor…and there is no comparison.
    Biden has never been a good candidate and I’ve often wondered why the media, establishment and DNC worked so hard to promote him over far better candidates?

  14. Submitted by Bob Petersen on 05/08/2020 - 01:13 pm.

    Many on the Left are wondering what to do. They’ve painted themselves in this corner because of what they have done on this subject recently. It was clear that Kavanaugh was set up from the get go – after all, how long did Senator Feinstein hold on to what was coming to Kavanaugh until much later? Ford even testified that she did not want it to go public but Feinstein leaked it out Schiff-style and tried to play innocent. I’m not saying I don’t believe Ford. But the optics that are around this just didn’t make sense. And the Dems took it on as gospel.
    Now one of their own is facing allegations that were shared with several other people long ago. I don’t know if Reade can be believed. But everyone is due their day in court, both the accuser and the accused.
    The Dems have proven that political expediency is paramount and, as Mr Black says, they really don’t know what to do. The liberal run main stream media ignored this and never asked Biden in numerous interviews even one question for over a month. The now harassment plagued NBC News organization is in a pile of big doo doo and doesn’t want to get even close to this.
    The Reade accusation might end up as nothing. But the Dems set up the rules of the game. Heck, they even took nice guy Franken out in their zeal for a good image and positive PR. The country as a whole probably thinks this is just a small part of their decision to back or not back the ever handsy Biden. Just like several that are commenting, they are still backing Biden. But if anyone felt that Kavanaugh should have been disqualified merely for the allegations against him, they should feel the same for Biden.

    • Submitted by BK Anderson on 05/08/2020 - 04:12 pm.

      Actually, I don’t think very “many on the Left are wondering what to do” over this issue. Most likely those “on the Left” will be overwhelmingly voting for Biden, just as a very high percentage of Trump supporters will (again) be supporting admitted sexual predator and woeful incompetent Trump.

      For an independent voter, the question will be why the sort of misconduct allegations which they were told to treat as utterly irrelevant and meaningless when considering Trump’s fitness for office should somehow be decisive when considering Biden’s. (Leave aside the differences in scope between the two sets of allegations.)

      I see almost every conservative commenter at Minnpost is swarming this topic, it’s like catnip! A shame that their lockstep defense/support for accused abusers Trump and Kavanaugh means they have no moral standing to object or claim hypocrisy by Dems…

  15. Submitted by Dennis Barrett on 05/08/2020 - 04:53 pm.

    “And not just here with Biden, but with Biden as the alternative to you-know-whom.” Well, there it is Erik. The evidence we’ve all been waiting for.

  16. Submitted by Charles Holtman on 05/08/2020 - 06:52 pm.

    First, I haven’t the slightest interest in whether Ms. Reade’s allegation is true. The choice in November is between Joe Biden and the end of our nation. I didn’t pick Biden, but that’s where we are. If he ate 30 babies in front of the TV cameras, it wouldn’t change a thing. An election is about the lesser evil, and there’s alot more than one act of sexual assault, or the consumption of 30 babies, between Trump and Biden.

    Second, to even cover the allegation is journalistic malpractice, because it can’t be covered proportionately. In 2016, to fulfill its “Both Sides” prime directive, the mainstream media blew up a trivial Hillary Clinton lapse about private server use into something that precisely counterbalanced Trump’s infinite incompetence, corruption and moral turpitude. Unless a paragraph on the Reade allegation is surrounded by several thousand column inches examining Trump’s uncountable acts against decency, then the mainstream media are intervening decisively for Trump in the same manner as they did in 2016.

    Finally, if you support Trump or the Republicans, you don’t get to comment here. You’ve already taken a stand that morality is irrelevant to public office, so any suggestion you make that the allegation is relevant to Biden’s fitness – and therefore relevant in the public sphere – necessarily is insincere.

  17. Submitted by Tom Anderson on 05/08/2020 - 06:52 pm.

    Well, at least it eventually evolved into a Trump story. I don’t recall the author sitting back so long when the now Supreme Court justice was being grilled, but I expect no less. A really cool thing would be to have our Senator Amy grill former Vice President Biden the same way she did Justice K. On TV, live. Notice, as usual, how the VP hopeful Senator keeps her hopes alive by kissing up to Mr. Biden.

    • Submitted by Paul Brandon on 05/08/2020 - 09:09 pm.

      Supreme Court justices require Senate confirmation.
      Presidents don’t.

    • Submitted by Mike Chrun on 05/08/2020 - 10:18 pm.

      “Well, at least it eventually evolved into a Trump story.” Yes, go figure with Trump’s sordid history that a sexual harassment column would bring him up: dating his daughter comment; dropping into the dressing room to oogle teen-agers in his pageants; Epstein’s pal; various affairs; buying off porn stars; the grab ’em comment; demeaning comments about women; and about 20 women accusing him.

      Don’t doubt that some Democrats will agonize over this and Biden will lose votes. Republicans got angry and all up in arms because they looked at the Kavanaugh hearing as stealing their rightful Supreme Court seat and Trump’s support among them actually got stronger. Stealing a Supreme Court seat that was theirs; you know, the seat Mitch refused to fill in Obama’s last year?

      And we have Republicans coming here to lecture people about hypocrisy and telling us how we have to treat the accusation. Support for Biden isn’t going to determine this election. Disgust with and hatred of Trump and the real fear that he is destroying our nation is what will motivate us.

      • Submitted by Tom Anderson on 05/09/2020 - 07:05 pm.

        “Well, at least it eventually evolved into a Trump story”

        This was merely a notation that the author rarely writes about anything else but Trump.

        • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 05/12/2020 - 11:19 am.

          A columnist who writes about American politics frequently writes about the President? How shocking!

          What is he supposed to write about?

    • Submitted by Roy Everson on 05/09/2020 - 12:54 am.

      It was the Senate’s job to pass judgement on a lifetime appointment, this the Republicans failed by their refusal to investigage adequately. The presidency is for voters to decide, hopefully for the 4 years limit to which Trump has been appointed by the Electoral College.

    • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 05/11/2020 - 09:37 am.

      “A really cool thing would be to have our Senator Amy grill former Vice President Biden the same way she did Justice K.”

      So a (male) former Vice President is identified by his last name, a (male) Supreme Court nominee has his last initial, but a female Senator is “our Senator Amy.” That’s kind of like the way you would refer to a schoolchild, isn’t it?

      Incidentally, she grilled “Judge K,” as he did not become a Justice until the Republicans grew uncomfortable with the whole thing and voted to confirm him.

  18. Submitted by Joel Stegner on 05/08/2020 - 09:03 pm.

    This is not that hard. Her story keeps changing. Which version is true, if any? She is simply not a credible witness

  19. Submitted by Ron Quido on 05/08/2020 - 10:39 pm.

    I don’t believe Mr. Biden assaulted her. Ms. Reade raises the allegations only after he wins the Democratic nomination. She claims to have filed a complaint than backtracks to say the complaint wasn’t about the alleged assault but how Mr. Biden made her feel uncomfortable. No one witnessed the incident or can even vouch that Ms. Reade delivered his gym bag that day or any day (was this a one time occurrence? Did other staff members perform that task, too?) . No other women have stepped forward to make similar allegations. No prosecuting attorney would charge this case based on a lack of evidence.

  20. Submitted by BK Anderson on 05/09/2020 - 09:10 am.

    It is being correctly pointed out above that there is no precedent for “investigating” allegations like this against a presidential nominee. Certainly no formal investigation was ever made of the serial allegations of sexual misconduct by nominee Trump in 2016. Nor has such a thing ever been done.

    The Kavanaugh situation was a completely different matter, of course, since every nominee for a federal judgeship must have a senate hearing and confirmation process. So the process set up to hear the allegations against Justice Boofer has no application to a nominee for president. It’s possible that Moscow Mitch’s team will set up an illegitimate “hearing” in some senate committee to allow Ms Reade to proclaim her (ever-changing) charges, and the national media will lap it up. This will set a very bad precedent, but that’s not gonna be a concern of McConnell’s Repubs, who must do whatever they can to maintain their minority faction, anti-democratic “conservative” in power.

    My guess is that, now that the corrupt fixer and sycophant AG Barr has made clear that the Justice Department exists solely to do the dictator’s bidding, some sort of FBI investigation into Reade’s allegations will be undertaken, with Trump claiming non-involvement in the charade. The question will only be whether Barr will prevail upon Trump not to tweet about it beforehand. Some sort of slanted “report” will then be issued at a critical point in the campaign.

    The unprecedented situation of Barr’s dismissal of the perjury case against Russian operative Flynn (who pleaded guilty!) demonstrates beyond any doubt that he is not an independent AG operating in good faith, and that he understands his job is to “work towards the Fuhrer”, as the savvy operatives of the Third Reich used to say. One wonders what Hitler’s “tweets” would have been like!

  21. Submitted by Paul Udstrand on 05/09/2020 - 10:04 am.

    I don’t know about anyone else but I’m not going to make any decisions or even spend any time thinking about this. This is one decades old un-corroborated accusation. The only thing that been “corroborated” is that she discussed it with others at the time, but that would be the case if she was fabricating it at the time.

    Biden is a typical patriarchal white male and I would expect that he’s acted like one his whole adult life, tell us something we don’t know. But it doesn’t look like he’s been dogged by these kinds of accusations (this is a LOT more than a hug or a shoulder grab) his whole career. If this is all there is, I’m moving along. I have much much bigger concerns about Biden.

  22. Submitted by Edward Blaise on 05/10/2020 - 01:58 pm.

    And curiouser and curiouser…

    “By: Alexandra Tara Reade

    “ Somewhere between ideas of right and wrong, there is a garden, I will meet you there.” Rumi

    Why would a liberal democrat support Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin? Maybe it is because I believe he has saved the world from a large conflict on more than one occasion. Maybe it is because he speaks reasonably, with emotional intelligence at diplomatic meetings. Maybe it is because I worked in the government and came to know the American international agenda. Stay with me, as it is even more than that.”

  23. Submitted by Janice Jones-Johnson on 05/10/2020 - 09:39 pm.

    The Tara Reade saga is very suspicious. Where was her allegations when Biden was chosen as Vice President. This smells of, ” I need you to do me a favor though.”

    • Submitted by BK Anderson on 05/11/2020 - 07:21 am.

      And when he ran on the ticket again in 2012, for that matter…

      I suppose her answer is that it was before #Metoo, but that explanation is having to do an awful lot of heavy lifting in this instance.

    • Submitted by Jay Grueneich on 05/11/2020 - 07:22 am.

      Totally agree with you, when they were vetting Biden for VP, if there was something like this in his records, you would think President Obama would pick him as his running mate? If the accusation was true, why did she not come out with them then in 2008? Or in 2012? Why wait till now to bring up this up 28 years latter? Why do the story change from year to year? Like the reporter, I want to believe her, just to many loose ends.

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