‘All options on table’ when it comes to Adrian Peterson’s future as a Viking

Monday's cover of the New York Daily News
New York Daily News
Monday’s cover of the New York Daily News featuring
a Vikings fan holding a switch.

If you watched what we’ll refer to as “the game” between New England and the Vikings yesterday, you may have noticed whose picture was not on the side of the team’s new billion dollar play palace in the artist’s rendering CBS showed their viewing audience.

In Adrian Peterson news: ESPN has a story up saying, “Minnesota Vikings executive vice president and general manager Rick Spielman said Sunday that ‘all options are on the table’ when it comes to how the team will handle the allegations against running back Adrian Peterson.”

Chris Wessling at NFL.com reports, “NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reports, via a Vikings source, that the length of Peterson’s absence could be longer than this week based on what new information the organization uncovers about the running back’s charge of reckless or negligent injury to a child. … Spielman told NFL Media’s Andrea Kremer on Saturday that the team’s approach is ‘literally one hour at a time.’ The Vikings don’t know yet if more pictures or videos will be forthcoming. One other member of the organization confirmed to Kremer that the ‘current climate’ created by Ray Rice’s indefinite suspension for striking his then-fiancee in an elevator certainly factored into the decision to deactivate Peterson for Sunday’s game. Asked by Kremer if the discipline might include a team suspension or even Peterson’s release, Spielman said all of the facts need to be in line before those decisions are made.”

At USA Today, Chris Chase writes, “Charles Barkley defended Adrian Peterson and expressed hope that Ray Rice gets another chance to play in the NFL during a Sunday interview with Jim Rome on the CBS pregame show The NFL Today. After expressing optimism that the ‘tragic mistake’ made by Ray Rice will help raise awareness of domestic violence, the outspoken NBA Hall of Famer was asked about the indictment of Peterson. Barkley said he understands the anger toward the Minnesota Vikings running back but said every black parent in the south is going to be in jail under the circumstances that led to Peterson’s indictment on child abuse charges.”

In the New York Daily News, Tina Moore says, “Adrian Peterson could get up to two years in prison if prosecutors successfully argue that the bloody beating of his 4-year-old son went above and beyond normal discipline. And barring a plea deal, the star running back’s trial would likely begin early next year.”

Elsewhere in the same paper, veteran sportswriter Mike Lupica says, “By now you know some of the details of Peterson’s own life apart from football, a father who ended up in prison for selling crack cocaine, a brother killed by a drunken driver, another half-brother shot and killed. All of it may inform the man the child became, but does not excuse the kind of behavior, against his own child, for which he now stands accused, even as his lawyer tells us all what a loving father Peterson is.”

Ex-Viking great Cris Carter had his say on ESPN Sunday. Roxanna Scott at USA Today says, “Carter related the story to his mother, who raised seven children by herself. ‘My mom did the best that she could do … But there are thousands of things that I have learned since then that my mom was wrong. This is the 21st century; my mom was wrong… And I promise my kids I won’t teach that mess to them. You can’t beat a kid to make them do what you want them to do.’ As Ray Lewis, Tom Jackson and Mike Ditka listened intently in the studio, Carter got increasingly emotional and his voice became passionate. ‘The only thing I’m proud about is the team that I played for they did the right thing,’ he said of the Vikings.”

At The Sporting News, Troy Machir quotes New York Post writer Bart Hubbuch saying that the Vikings were scheduling a conference call last night and the possibility of trading Peterson was on the table. “The idea of a team trading away one of the best players in the NFL due to the player’s first off-the-field incident seems like a gross overreaction, but social indiscretions are viewed is a much different prism than marijuana use. That being said, he has yet to be convicted on any charges, and that will play a big part in the team’s decision.”

In other news: Fortune magazine’s Allan Sloan took another rip at Medtronic-style tax inversion. “A high-bracket Minnesota resident who has owned shares of Minneapolis-based Medtronic for 20 years would have to pay about $20 a share in federal and state tax if the company inverts at current prices. But such taxes don’t affect mutual fund and hedge fund managers, who are judged on pretax performance and who pass on tax obligations to their investors. ‘It’s one thing for investors to have to pay tax if a fund manager is selling a stock at a profit, but it’s a whole other thing to have to pay on a stock the fund is keeping,’ says Daniel P. Wiener, editor of a newsletter for Vanguard investors. The same, of course, is true for people who own stock directly. Once again, Wall Street gets its way, while responsible Main Street folks get screwed.” Why it’s almost like the hedgies wrote those tax laws. 

The latest Minnesota Poll has Mark Dayton with a 12-point lead over Jeff Johnson in the race for governor. The Strib’s Patrick Condon says, “Dayton leads Johnson 45 percent to 33 percent, with 20 percent undecided. The poll found that Johnson, a Hennepin County commissioner from Plymouth and former state legislator, is still a mystery to many: At least a third of likely voters did not recognize his name, while another 40 percent had no opinion of him.”

Here’s The Current’s Andrea Swensson on The Replacements Midway Stadium show Saturday night. “In a performance that spanned nearly every song they’ve pulled out for their reunion gigs so far and a few that haven’t (including ‘Take Me Down the Hospital’, Jimmy Reed’s ‘I’m Going to New York’ and a spine-tingling solo rendition of ‘Skyway’), the Replacements seemed hell bent on erasing any ill will that might have arisen from such a delayed hometown show and finally gave the audience exactly what they wanted.”   

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Comments (39)

  1. Submitted by Paul Brandon on 09/15/2014 - 09:12 am.

    The NFL is not part of the criminal justice system.

    It should take action against Peterson and Rice only if they have violated their contracts.
    Otherwise, let the police handle it, bearing in mind the legal assumption of innocence.
    What we’re seeing now is vigilantism and a lynch mob.

    • Submitted by Luke Ferguson on 09/15/2014 - 10:28 am.

      NFL Contracts

      Professional sports contracts almost always include extensive codes of conduct that go way above and beyond just saying you can’t do illegal stuff.

      The NFL and all of professional athletics is just a series of very valuable brands. They need to maintain that brand, so those who wear the logo need to be above reproach.

      I think we’re starting to see underpinnings behind that branding come crashing down around their ears, if these sort of behaviors continue.

  2. Submitted by Steve Titterud on 09/15/2014 - 09:48 am.

    I am concerned for that little boy, not for Adrian Peterson,…

    …and certainly not for the NFL – a thoroughly corrupt business.

    Football is popular in part BECAUSE of its violence. The play-by-play commentators replay the “big hits” because these are literally big hits with the violence-loving audience, and the advertisers want to take advantage of it. If some of this popular violence spills over onto little kids, well – isn’t it perfectly natural that some of these football fans stand up in support of the adult player, rather than the child ??

    If that little boy grows up with a tendency towards violence, he’ll be just like Daddy, won’t he ??

    Rusty Hardin is a brilliant attorney who really knows how to get the PR job done – in the right vein, at the right time, and in a way to dominate the news. So his early statement, parroted on a broad scale by the media, focuses on his client, Adrian Peterson, and invites us to sympathize with him. You gotta admit, this is one great attorney who has changed the conversation from the get-go.

    But I’d invite those here to free yourselves from the mesmerizing performance of Rusty Hardin.

    As to that vengeful lynch-mob accusation, which we see right here on MinnPost – far from it, many of us care little for Adrian Peterson, but are concerned with the kid and other kids in the same situation. Adrian Peterson can take care of himself just fine, thank you. He can defend himself physically. He can afford high-priced attorneys and the NFL’s PR machine to defend him.

    What can the 4 year old do to defend himself ?? It was reported the 4 year old had defensive wounds on his hands, and didn’t cry when beaten. This is about all he has in the way of self-defense. How much do you think this little person trusts adults ??

    Here in Minnesota, how does the taxpayer feel now about public monies subsidizing this entertainment ?? We’ve bought and are paying for a lot more than just extra hundreds of millions in profit for the racketeering owners, the Wilfs.

  3. Submitted by Matt Haas on 09/15/2014 - 11:19 am.

    Absolutely NOT in support of Peterson

    But isn’t using the four year old to further your well established grievance with the NFL, the Wilf’s, and all we “violence loving” football fans, just a wee smidge hypocritical?

    • Submitted by jody rooney on 09/15/2014 - 11:53 am.

      Apparenty you didn’t see the pictures of the

      little boy. There is no defense for anyone who does that to a child.

      • Submitted by Matt Haas on 09/15/2014 - 12:47 pm.

        Again, NOT a DEFENSE

        I get it pro football bad (don’t worry I’m used to being the outlier in the room) but what do you expect the team to do. Should the be prescient, and proactively release the whole team in case they may break the law, should they just fold? I certainly, for one, would prefer any charge against me play out in a court of law, regardless what details might leak, outside of that venue. There is such a thing as due process, that you’ve already tried and convicted Peterson in your mind is really irrelevant, and in fact sets a dangerous precedent with regards to constitutionally guaranteed rights. If and when he is tried and convicted, outside the court of public opinion, have at it. Until then, cool your jets if you’d like to have a society that has any semblence of a rule of law. I can look at all the pictures you’d like, that opinion will not change.

        • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 09/15/2014 - 01:35 pm.

          What should the poor, put-upon Vikings do?

          How about suspend Adrian Peterson until the charges play out? After all, this is a vicious, brutal assault on a child. Despite his local hero status, Peterson should be held to account. Since he pretty much admits what he did, I see no real problem in kicking him off the team now.

          Frankly, I am almost as disgusted by his defenders who are “not defenders.” The Vikings have asked for–and are receiving–an obscene amount of money so the citizens of Minnesota can be privileged to bask in their presence. Why are we perpetuating a culture of entitlement for these thugs? To put it another way, would you be as concerned about “fairness” if the defendant were someone whose bodily contact with others you don’t watch on television?

          • Submitted by Matt Haas on 09/15/2014 - 03:11 pm.

            Yes

            The knife cuts both ways, are you out on a soapbox if this is Joe Blow from Anytown, USA ornis because you feel added urge to get one in on the organization that put that stadium over on you? I am not even a Vikings fan, I know its hard to believe, but I just dont think the orgiastic feeding frenzy over this is very productive. There is a very large subset of this country, (not just conservatives btw), that see this whole debate as an atack on themselves as parents. I know you’ll say “look at the pictures” and decry the barbarism of what is an awful act. But what I have heard is an endless repetiton of what amounts to “I’d never touch MY kids” with the sanctimonious implications towards parents who do practice corporal punishment implicit. There are 2 easy ways to anger lots of people, tell them how they should behave in the bedroom, and tell them how they should raise their kids, most lierals I know, certainly abhor the first, why are we all so eager to take on the mantle of the second? I know you think going all in on this is going to save a bunch of kids, change a bunch of minds, but I’m telling you, you’re just entrenching the behavior of those who will see this as an attack on their values, just verifying the liberal “nanny” stereotype to people (football fans) who might have otherwise been open to a dialogue about the relative merits of corporal punishment and its alternatives. To summarize, you’re alienating the people you’re trying to help change the behavior you dislike. If you want to make constructive use of the situation, you’ll have to set aside the vitriol for the NFL and its fans that is obviously bubbling just under surface of all this commentary.

            • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 09/15/2014 - 04:42 pm.

              So what?

              Don’t pick on poor Adrian Peterson because it might alienate–whom? The people who see the need to beat their children? It’s not constructive to bother them because–what?

              There is a difference between mild spanking and the kind of systematic brutality Peterson indulged in. People like that (and he is an abuser–if you abuse a child, you are a child abuser) behave abominably, and I frankly don’t care if they don’t like my attitude. People who are so solicitous of the feelings of child abusers that they want to change the subject are nearly as bad.

              Yes, I am going to attack the values of people who do that to children. If that distracts them from their little games, so be it.

              • Submitted by Matt Haas on 09/15/2014 - 05:48 pm.

                the criticism is not reserved for only those who are abusive

                By your definition. Folks are out for blood (no pun intended) from those of the mild spanking mindset as well. Mt commentary is geared more toward the response, than toward Peterson’s situation itself. Are you comfortable alienating every parent who may have spanked a child in anger, because many are. What I sense, is that there are many who view this as a chance to take on corporal punishment, and moreso those who use it, to open another front on the culture war as it were. I simply caution those who feel such, as its very deep water you’re wading into.

                • Submitted by Rachel Kahler on 09/16/2014 - 09:14 am.

                  I agree

                  Corporal punishment isn’t automatically abuse. I honestly have ignored the Adrian Peterson issue, so I have no comment on that particular situation. However, it’s a pretty big can of worms to open if the perception (real or otherwise) of one famous person beating his child means everyone should be scrutinized every time they lay hands on their child. Yes, I was spanked. Once. It didn’t constitute a beating then or now. My sister was spanked on multiple occasions. She was not beaten, either, even in hindsight. I’ve seen other parents spank their kids. I’ve never seen a beating, though. Does it happen? Absolutely. But there’s no need for a witch hunt, particularly since the decision regarding corporal punishment is very much a cultural one. Education about when it goes too far needs to be part of the discussion, too. It doesn’t make it any less wrong when child abuse happens, but the brush stroke is getting pretty broad here.

      • Submitted by Joey Cruz on 09/15/2014 - 02:31 pm.

        no shame for the VIKINGS…

        It is amazing that Peterson absolutely beat his kid like he was a dog…the Vikings have no class the only reason they reinstated Peterson is because the Patriots crushed them, maybe they should beat Rick Spielman the way that kid was beat. Amazing they are going to allow Peterson to play again I guess child abuse means nothing to them this organization has let the Nfl down, every child who was ever beat and themselves you guys are a bs organization and I hope and pray that it comes back to your team….

    • Submitted by Steve Titterud on 09/15/2014 - 12:38 pm.

      What do you have to say about the 4 year old’s injuries??

      Your response doesn’t address the fundamental point of the post, which is about the child.

      I confess to my grievances with the NFL, the Wilfs, and the fans who want the public to subsidize this particular entertainment. Guilty !!

      But my plea for the kids who get these kinds of beatings & worse – including this 4 year old – is heartfelt. Who is there to defend them ?? They can’t defend themselves.

      Adrian Peterson is not the main issue here. The kids with no defense, needing protection, are the main issue. Yet so many have little to say about these kids, they are concerned with defense of the football player.

      Do as Jody Rooney suggested: review your own post while looking at those pictures.

      • Submitted by Matt Haas on 09/15/2014 - 03:14 pm.

        I would much prefer matter settled

        In a court of law, rather than the halls of the NFL league office, or the fever swamp of social media. Would you prefer any legal matter you may face be adjudicated by your employer or a random sampling of folks on Twitter?

      • Submitted by Matt Haas on 09/15/2014 - 03:20 pm.

        If you find the criminal justice portion of this story lacking

        I would suggest that the citizens of that particular jurisdiction be prevailed upon to shake up up the ranks of the prosecutorial department in Montgomery County. That is how it MUST be. Surely you can see the danger of allowing the emotional reaction from what would ordinarily be sealed evidentiary materials to disrupt due process. What Peterson did is terrible, to allow it devolve us into a pitchfork toting mob would be equally terrible.

    • Submitted by Alfred Sullivan on 09/15/2014 - 04:23 pm.

      It certainly is a violent “game.”

      In what other industry would we tolerate one-third of the employees suffering brain damage?

  4. Submitted by Dimitri Drekonja on 09/15/2014 - 12:09 pm.

    Well, appears that after a weekend of deliberating, the vikings found the option that most cynics suspected: back on the squad.

    Reading between the lines of their statement, this is what I take form it:
    1) He’s really good
    2) We only scored 1 touchdown without him
    3) We’re pretty sure there’s no video, and without that we can probably ride out the negative publicity
    4) You’re already building us our stadium
    5) So, screw you

    • Submitted by Jonathan Ecklund on 09/15/2014 - 12:30 pm.

      Agreed

      In my reading of their decision to play AP next Sunday, they are basically stating that, in their opinion, the Vikings got beaten worse than AP’s son.

      I’m sick of this criminal league with it’s mafioso leaders who shake down states for money, who vigorously defend racist team names, who protect their players who beat children, women, dogs, and it’s coaches who make jokes about putting all homosexuals on an island and ‘nuking it till it glows.’

  5. Submitted by Alfred Sullivan on 09/15/2014 - 12:40 pm.

    What was she thinking …

    if she thinks at all!? The woman pictured in Vikings “regalia” carrying a switch is a bit over the top.

    • Submitted by jason myron on 09/15/2014 - 02:55 pm.

      What was she thinking?

      These people dress in horns and helga wigs, go the state capitol to shill for a taxpayer funded stadium to be built for a billionaire owner, increasing the value of his personal investment. For this loyalty, they’ll be rewarded the honor of paying more money for tickets, seat licenses, concessions parking and any other fee that the Wilfs can think of. I couple years back, I was visiting my folks in Wisconsin and the Packers were asking for help to shovel out the stadium after a huge snowfall… they had to turn people away. I remember one guy being interviewed who said that he was taking vacation time to go do it because of the opportunity to stand on “hallowed ground.” I don’t think cognitive thought is all that high a priority for some of them

  6. Submitted by Richard O'Neil on 09/15/2014 - 02:24 pm.

    ” …‘every black parent in the south is going to be in jail…”

    If they physically abuse their kids to the point of drawing blood, from a four-year old no less, maybe they should should go to jail.

    • Submitted by Matt Haas on 09/15/2014 - 04:45 pm.

      Yes

      That’ll solve it, I’m sure. But you’ll need to expand your round up to rural whites, everywhere.

      • Submitted by jason myron on 09/15/2014 - 06:15 pm.

        Yeah

        if this ever goes to trial, It’s going to be really interesting to see if he’s convicted. Corporal punishment is legal in Texas and I don’t think that Minnesotans have any idea how commonplace this is down there. My own father, a country boy from Oklahoma who I still love dearly, made me go out and pick out my own switch on a couple of occasions. Now,I was never marked as badly as Peterson’s child was, but I still took a a whupping a few times in my youth. What I find fascinating is the disconnect from Peterson considering that he lost one of his sons to domestic violence. Just because some of us were subjected to it in our youth, doesn’t make it our right to continue to perpetuate the act

        • Submitted by Matt Haas on 09/15/2014 - 09:39 pm.

          I actually agree with that sentiment

          Which is why I find viewpoints like the one we’ve replied and RB’s so troubling. What I hear is a contradiction, a desire to protect children by changing the culture, coupled with rhetoric that is a sure fire way to ensure change never occurs. I’ve been thinking on it, and the best way I can present it is this, you can have retribution or you can have change, but not both. To pursue the course of retribution will mean crucifying Peterson on the altar of public opinion (which he may very we’ll deserve), the collateral damage from this, at least from some quarters will include charges of every parent using corporal punishment as an abuser and unfit to raise kids. This of course is ludicrous, but is not some strawn man creation, I’ve heard it several times already in various media. What you’ll get from this is retrenchment, even glorification of this practice from those who hold it as a value, and from those looking to attack the “oppressors” (read cons). In effect while exacting our toll from the “monster” we enable and strengthen the behavior we seek to abolish. Conversley, should we seek the path of change, we may have to set aside our bloodlust and allow the “monster” fair opportunity to express his rationale for his behavior, attempt to understand it, and use this information to open a dialogue with those who hold such views, in an attempt to educate them on it’s error. Vilification will by necessity be out. The first path is far more satisfying in the short term, so I fear it will prevail.

          • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 09/16/2014 - 10:18 am.

            So . . .

            . . . don’t reprove a man who admits beating his children severely, because all sorts of people are going to take it the wrong way and start talking about spanking. A discussion about the appropriate nature of corporal punishment of a child is “collateral damage.”

            First of all, I never spoke about all corporal punishment, so saying I’m raising discussions that might offend some people is, to use your word, ludicrous.

            Second, excessive punishment of a child is a crime, and society seeks retribution for crimes. I find it appalling that you seem to think this would be wrong.

            Third, Adrian Peterson has admitted the level of punishment. A jury in Texas will decide if it was criminal, but I see no reason why that should end the matter. Why should someone who does something like this to children be allowed to bask in society’s adulation? There is a moral issue here that goes beyond the criminal issue. I would hate to think our ethical standards are limited to what constitutes a proven criminal offense.

            • Submitted by Matt Haas on 09/16/2014 - 12:14 pm.

              No offense Mr. Holbrook

              But your opinion is hardly the only one out there. Refer to my later post if you must. Never did I say Peterson deserves no punishment, only that the form that punishment takes, and the way the discussion proceeds will determine the effect this episode will have on the topic of child abuse, going forward. If you truly believe that corporal punishment is poor parenting, even abuse, as many do (if not you personally), putting Peterson’s head on pike will not accomplish what you think it will. You are trying to interject yourselves into matter in which you have no experience and the people you’d like to see change their behavior will resent your intrusion. You will make the problem worse. Unless your plan is to do what thebprevious poster suggests and lock everyone up, you’ll never get the change you seek.

            • Submitted by jason myron on 09/16/2014 - 06:23 pm.

              With all due respect, RB

              you have no power to curb who a segment of society decides to idolize, this IS a free country. I’d love to throw fans of Nickelback and Creed into interment camps if I could. My point is, no matter how abhorrent we find it, corporal punishment is legal in Texas and is widely practiced throughout the south and rural areas of the country. It also crosses generational divides. That’s not a rationalization, its just fact. Frankly, what IS going to make a difference is the market (Christ, I can’t believe I’m saying this) and its already happening. Radisson, Visa, McDonalds, Campbells are all putting pressure on the NFL. When the money stops, ethical standards suddenly become part of the equation, repulsive as that is, but it might further the discussion and hasten the change in public opinion that all us here would love to see.

        • Submitted by Matt Haas on 09/16/2014 - 06:16 am.

          The expansion of this to all people who practice corporal punish

          Has already begun. I direct you to the secondary lead on CNN.com this morning “Should you hit your kid?”. Not just ” abusively”, but at all.

  7. Submitted by Jackson Cage on 09/15/2014 - 03:40 pm.

    You’re spot on Matt

    Why is it that virtually every poster here has to mention their opposition to the stadium, as if there’s some connection between that and child abuse? If it weren’t so sad, it would be funny that almost every poster lets that view dictate their judgment.

    Based on what I know now, Peterson should face some punishment, and I think it should be “severe”. But I’m not sure what that means? There are a lot of factors to consider and at this point I’m not sure there needs to be a rush to determine the proper sanction.

    I’m not sure why considering the way Peterson was raised automatically means you have no sympathy for the 4 year old, as if it’s an “all or nothing” proposition. In virtually every criminal matter, the rationale behind the defendent’s conduct is examined…..not “excused”, but “examined”. Given the sheer number of Southerners that have experienced and/or condone this type of punishment, it at the very least makes it a relevent issue for discussion. Again, I’d ask “how did this become acceptable discipline to a significant amount of the population?”

    I remember years ago the case of Donohue and the Children’s Theatre, which did far more harm to far more kids. Based on the logic expressed here, I guess the proper response would be to stop subsidizing ANY of the arts?

    • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 09/16/2014 - 02:41 pm.

      John Donahue

      That is even sillier than “don’t discuss this, because it might hurt the feelings of people who spank their kids.”

      The Children’s Theatre suspended John Donahue as soon as he was arrested. The Theatre cooperated with the investigation even though there was some legitimate fear that Donahue’s absence would mean the end of the Theatre. There was no question of keeping him on because the productions were no good without him; I mean, while the process played itself out.

      You’re also ignoring the fact that the Vikings seemed to have turned themselves into a refuge for a bunch of criminal low-lifes. This goes beyond Adrian Peterson beating a couple of children.

  8. Submitted by Susan Maricle on 09/16/2014 - 07:38 am.

    The real heroes

    are adults who, despite being beaten as children by their own parents, have ended the cycle of violence when they themselves become parents.

    • Submitted by Steve Titterud on 09/16/2014 - 08:00 am.

      There are many, many for whom this is true.

      They simply have no desire to raise a hand against a child. They know just how damaging it is, and how long the pain lasts.

      • Submitted by Matt Haas on 09/16/2014 - 04:29 pm.

        So explain it to me then

        What of those in the other category? You describe them, on one hand, as victims of the abuse of their parents, but should they not rise above, choose the “heroic”path what would you classify them as, evil? Mentally ill? Unfit? I ask again, do you want the behavior to change? If so, how? I know its hard, with our lives of easy access to any information we like to understand that this is not a universal truth. I might have read a dozen parenting books before my kids were born, but not everyone has that capability, or the time to do so. What I find hard to stomach from folks who would ordinarily be all about avoiding sterotyping folks from certain backgrounds is the apparent blind spot when it comes to the difficulties of parenting while poor. Make no mistake, the cultural divide on this issue, while racial in a small part, is far more one of class and experience. To a lesser extent one of rural vs urban experience as well. To label whole swaths of the populace as unfit, mentally ill, monsters, too damaged by their life experience to be capable parents, based on your own narrow experience is beyond perilous. It is irresponsible and damaging. How do you ever expect to reach peope who feel you simply disregard them as such. Its the same approach taken by people on the anti equality side of the marriage debate, labeling lgbt folks as “unnatural”, “sinful”, “evil”, etc…
        I just can’t understand what it is about this topic that is blinding so many otherwise thoughtful and intelligent people to this reality.

        • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 09/16/2014 - 04:56 pm.

          Hey, whatever

          I think I understand what you are saying. You are taking moral relativism to a new height because those of another cultural background just do things differently. I can’t wait to hear your take on forced marriages of young girls in Afghanistan (because they always have done it, and how are we going to reach them if we don’t shrug and look the other way?).

          What is “blinding” people, as you put it, is that there is a four year-old child who was beaten pretty savagely by his father. Culture, economics, or race are no rationalization for that kind of behavior by anyone.

          • Submitted by Matt Haas on 09/16/2014 - 07:43 pm.

            No

            What I’m arguing is the opposite. From your commentary I take it you dislike child abuse right? (Duh). Where were you, or anyone else for that matter prior to about 3:30 pm past Friday , with regards to speaking out against corporal punishment, or the abuse of it? It took an easy target (particularly for those who dislike professional athletics, football especially) to being forth the ire of the outraged masses. For those of us, who grew up around this stuff, it seems awfully convienent since its always been happening, despite the incredulous reaction of folks from elsewhere. Suddenly people who on Thursday considered themselves good, attentive, caring parents awake to discover people whom they’ve never, and will never, meet have labeled them monsters. Why would anyone acquiesce to changing their behavior under those circumstances. To use your example, which is even a little off, given that the forced marriage issue has received at least passing lip service from the outrage crowd, we would need a recognizable villain to attack. So lets say Hamid Karzai is found to have forced a five year old into an arranged marriage. Appropriately vile? OK, to make the analogy to our present situation, the western world would then demand not only retribution for Karzai, but also then immediate abandonment of Islam by all Afghanis, the institution of a legal system decided on not by Afghanis, but a coalition of Twitter followers and marriage and family therapists, and a repudiation of all traditions and values within local culture found to conflict with the above. Any variance from these strictures result in the immediate and permanent loss of marriage rights for all Afghanis. Sound like a plan anyone is going to go along with to you?
            What this tells me is, to circle back to my original post, is that this is less about concern for a child, or children in general, than it is about striking a blow against a team and an organization that you loathe.

  9. Submitted by John Appelen on 09/16/2014 - 03:57 pm.

    Judgmental

    I thought this was the comment land of let people live the way they wish?

    Now the commenters want to crucify a Father before the case has even gone to court. Are you being racist? According to Charles Barkley this is pretty normal where he comes from. Who are we that know better?

    By the way, I do not support what Adrian did. However I agree that we should let the courts resolve issue.

    • Submitted by Matt Haas on 09/16/2014 - 04:31 pm.

      Wow

      Mark the calendar, Mr. Appelen, for the most part we agree. Not likely to happen again.

      • Submitted by John Appelen on 09/16/2014 - 10:15 pm.

        Not to Scare You

        However you forget that I am ok with gay marriage and pro-choice up to ~12 weeks…

        We have more in common than you would like to admit…

  10. Submitted by Dennis Wagner on 09/18/2014 - 06:31 pm.

    Hypocracy “Rages on”

    All those that never kicked the dog, slapped the cat or whacked their kid or another human being out of frustration take a step back! Looks like there are just a couple of us that aren’t pure to the core! Instead of “Corrective action” we have hyperbole, excessive, holier than though, self-aggrandizement accusations and “Lynch mob” mentality. Correct, the media has Lynched Mr. Peterson as though this was a 1950’s Mississippi KKK gathering, this entire show is a “disgusting” window into America’s “Everyone has to be perfect warped mentality” Do you really believe he is a child abuser, or perhaps a parent that could use a little help, evidently crucifixion is th ehelp most folks are choosing to provide. Let get real folks, a 17 year got shot to death in Minneapolis 2 days ago? Where is the “OUTRAGE” for that kid laying cold in the morgue! He’s dead-not just bruised! Proof positive it is not about the whooping, its about your personal inability to face the world as it really is. We have all made mistakes in our life, correct and move on, why destroy a person’s life? to the Vikings organization and the Wilf’s, you are a bunch of cowards for not taking the high road, evidently understanding, corrective action and personal guidance are not in your play book.

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