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‘Purple Rain’ and pepper spray: What I saw (and heard) when Trump came to town

President Donald Trump
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President Donald Trump speaking during Thursday night's rally in Minneapolis.

It’s early Friday morning, I can still taste the pepper spray on my tongue. And that wasn’t even the weirdest thing that happened at the culture war that visited Target Center in downtown Minneapolis Thursday.

Trump’s rally was easily the strangest thing I’ve ever seen at Target Center — a campaign event built around the themes of law and order, law enforcement, military strength, and Trump’s love of cops — with only one other outing even coming close. Standing there Thursday night in section 121, watching the expressions of the crowd, I couldn’t help but recall when shock rocker Marilyn Manson whipped a Target Center crowd into a frenzy with video images of a burning cross and Third Reich imagery.

That was 1998. Twenty-one years later, in the very same spot, Donald Trump brought his show to town.

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Jay Gabbert: “I live in Plymouth. That’s a Republican stronghold. I made my sign this morning, because I’m sick of the liberals’ rhetoric. I just think it’s important that the Trump supporters have their voice for a change. It’s actually pretty simple. Nobody’s out here to hate people and all that nonsense. We’re just here to support the president and let the world know he has our support.”

Tom Wasik, Northeast Minneapolis
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Tom Wasik, Northeast Minneapolis: “I found out they were selling these t-shirts because the mayor didn’t want the cops to wear their uniforms to this rally, and the police union building’s not too far from my house, so I picked up one of these for me and one for my wife for twenty bucks each. I’ve come to this rally to say I went to a Trump rally that I’ve seen on TV in many cities before. So that’s why I’m here, and I’ll be heading home pretty soon to watch it on TV.”

Trump’s campaign stop came at the end of a week that saw him facing impeachment, a new order for him to turn over his tax returns in New York, a controversy of his own making in Syria, and Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frey blowing a raspberry at the White House.


Yet the night before the rally, television news gave no mention of some of the more conspicuous signs of protest, like the baby Trump balloon that festooned the top of First Avenue, which hung a rainbow “Vote 2020” sign on its marquee and announced it would be donating all club proceeds to Planned Parenthood. 

First Avenue
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Trump fans monitored the anti-Trump protest happening below them on the intersection of 1st Avenue and 7th Street as the baby Trump blimp hovered over First Avenue, which donated all its Thursday proceeds to Planned Parenthood.
To that end, Thursday’s protests included the Dump Trump! rally outside Target Center and a Minnesota Musicians Against Trump Rally, many of which continued into the early hours Friday morning.

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Wyatt Miller (foreground, in rain hoodie): “We’re with the Minnesota Anti-war Committee. We are here to unwelcome Donald Trump. We are a coalition of groups that have been working to fight a lot of Trump’s anti-people policies in a lot of different fields of struggle. We’ve been doing that for a long time, and we’re out here to oppose all those policies, whether they are anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim, anti-worker, or pro-war, and we’re also here to oppose what he’s actually bringing into the city of Minneapolis today with him. There have been studies that show that when Trump holds a rally, hate crimes spike one hundred percent in the weeks following his visit, and he’s made Minneapolis in particular such a source of his racist incitement that we really feel it’s necessary for people from all different communities in the Twin Cities to come out and send a message that he and his policies are not welcome here.”

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Jerry Guritz, Richfield; Clarence Richards and Kimm Kraai, Minnetonka. “I believe I’m a very patriotic person,” said Richards. “I enlisted in the Vietnam war, and I was fighting for my country and democracy back then, and we’re not getting that democracy; it’s slipping away and our quality of life is going down for the whole country. It’s preposterous. I’m here because Trump’s in my back yard. Get out of here. Get out of here. Every time Pence came here, I was there to protest, too. Get. Out. Of. Here.”

Lola Walsh, Minneapolis
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Lola Walsh, Minneapolis: “I had to create something to do with my Native American heritage, and the fact that he is using Pocahontas as an insult. I just want to make a statement. I know it’s not going to be a big deal, just one person, but I feel that I needed to be here.”

Thursday’s rally was also Trump’s first in Minneapolis since he whipped a North Carolina crowd into a chant of “send her back” about Rep. Ilhan Omar, who made history as Minnesota’s first Somali-American legislator and member of Congress and one of the first two Muslim women to serve in Congress. 


“Our beautiful state welcomes everyone with open arms,” tweeted Omar shortly after Trump’s visit was announced. “But to be clear: we will continue to reject you and your campaign of lies and bigotry.” 

In his speech Thursday night, Trump attacked Omar again, repeating several lies about her while also attacking Somali refugees.

Kathy Wikstrom, St. Louis Park
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Kathy Wikstrom, St. Louis Park. “I was born and raised in Minnesota, and my family has two century farms in the northwestern part of the state. My family are all Democrats. I have not been since the ’70s. I’m here to support this president because I finally got sick and tired of being called a racist, calling me names. They’ve been doing it to me for decades. I’m done. Why do I have to prove something that you can’t prove of me? I have a very varied family. My family is multi-racial. Why do I have to defend myself against false accusations?”

The day before Trump landed in Minnesota, Gail Collins wrote in The New York Times: “In a happier time Americans went about their lives, complaining about Washington, then sort of shrugging and moving on to a discussion of the World Series. Or medieval history. Or goat yoga. Whatever. Now we aren’t even free to change the subject. We’re looking at the pileup and wondering whether the next thing will usher in the Big Crackup.”

The Big Crackup came to Minnesota on World Mental Health Day, and many political agnostics chose to stay away, perhaps for health reasons or out of fear of getting caught in the low-grade chaos. 

Trump’s campaign has raised a record amount of money this year, and Minneapolis and Minnesota look to be obvious test markets to see how wide the country’s divide really is, with Trump vowing repeatedly Thursday night to get more Minnesotans to vote for him in 2020.

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Marie and Bonnie Wiech, Burnsville. “I’m in real estate,” said Bonnie. “We’re here to show support for our president, to show support for Minnesota and show that there are many, many here that support him and it’s not being told on the news, and to support our police officers and law enforcement. Mostly because the president is delivering on all his promises.”

“I wanted to come today because I strongly support Trump and I think what he’s doing is great,” said Marie. “I just love everything he’s doing. I’ve supported him since Day One. I know that a lot of students my age don’t necessarily like him, but I personally do, and I just think he’s a great president.”

Thursday, his supporters were out in something like force, in the skyways and in the streets. Outside of the arena, as a group and individually, the Trump fans were extremely quiet and cloistered and eerily so. But inside the Target Center, it was a party. Boomer classic rock hits were cranked to the max (mostly Rolling Stones, Tom Petty, R.E.M., several repeats of Frank Sinatra’s “My Way” and Aerosmith’s “Dream On,” and, yes, even a spin of “Purple Rain” that got zero love from the throng). 


There were also themed t-shirts galore: “Adorable Deplorable,” “Latinas For Trump,” “If You Build It, They Won’t Come,” “Jesus Is My Savior/Trump Is My President,” and several variations on the themes of patriotism, liberty, and making America great.   

As the crowd of 20,000 made its way in, Minnesota GOP head Jennifer Carnahan led the people in a prayer, ending with, “In Jesus’ name, amen.” Then came the pledge of allegiance, with much “God” emphasis, followed by chants of “U.S.A.” and “four more years” and the national anthem. Later, Mike Pence kept the God train rolling, talking about how we should never forget about faith when talking about the presidency. Thursday night, it was impossible to forget.

Trump supporters were funneled through the skyway to get to and from Target Center.
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Trump supporters were funneled through the skyway to get to and from Target Center.
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Campaigner: “We’re with the campaign, doing a spot for the campaign. We are here with Trump supporters. What do you guys think of the mayor of Minneapolis?”

Man: “Bad idea, trying to shut [the rally] down.”

Campaigner: “First Amendment matters, don’t you think? What do you think of the mayor?” 

Woman: “I don’t think I can say what I think about him on TV.” 

Campaigner: “We’re not TV. Don’t worry. We support the president. What about you guys? Do you support the president?”

Don Morgan, Montrose
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Don Morgan, Montrose. “I manage the mobile home park that I live in in Montrose. I wanted to be here because I like Trump. I like everything about him. Not one particular deal, just everything.”

Shortly before Eric Trump came on stage to talk about his love of law enforcement, the whole place erupted into a three-minute arena-strong execution of the wave, set to Michael Jackson’s “Beat It,” and the sight of all those Trump/Pence 2020 signs rising and falling and rippling was nothing short of sobering. Then Mike Lindell (aka the MyPillow guy), Eric Trump, and Pence and Trump came out and talked about law and order, law enforcement, and winning Minnesota in 2020, to more deafening cheers.  

Donald Trump and Mike Pence at the Target Center Thursday night in Minneapolis.
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Donald Trump and Mike Pence at the Target Center Thursday night in Minneapolis.
At one point, Trump told the crowd: “Cops love Trump, and Trump loves cops,” in reference to Minneapolis police union head Bob Kroll, who looked on lovingly and joined his president on stage with a dozen more cops clad in “Cops For Trump” shirts. Leaving the stage, one of the cops held up a sign: “Law and Order Vote Trump.” 

All told, Trump’s 102-minute speech included lots of references to fake news and a rundown of his enemies list, including “rotten” Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, who proclaimed Thursday “Love Trumps Hate” Day in the city. 

Melania Trump fan at the concession stand.
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Melania Trump fan at the concession stand.
I admit I left before Trump finished, and I was glad to have split early: I got out of the arena and walked down 1st Avenue and came upon a protest with hundreds of people wielding signs, and cops patrolling the streets on horseback, foot, and bikes. 

Police and Target Center security ousted several protesters who shouted and blew whistles at Trump from the arena rafters.
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Police and Target Center security ousted several protesters who shouted and blew whistles at Trump from the arena rafters.
Trump fans covered a protester’s sign, then booed him out of the section and into the hands of police and Target Center security, who escorted him from the building.
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Trump fans covered a protester’s sign, then booed him out of the section and into the hands of police and Target Center security, who escorted him from the building.
Police and Target Center security ousted a protester for holding an anti-Trump sign at Thursday’s Trump rally in Minneapolis.
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Police and Target Center security ousted a protester for holding an anti-Trump sign at Thursday’s Trump rally in Minneapolis.
Around 9 p.m., a bonfire of MAGA hats and signs was lit in the middle of the intersection of 6th and Hennepin to a chant of “Hey hey, ho ho, Donald Trump has got to go.” The cops on horseback pressed the crowd of a few hundred back, spilling most of us — including a guy dressed as Jesus wielding a “Not My President” sign — onto the Kieran’s Pub patio. 

That’s when the tear gas canisters and pepper spray hit the air, and I and my tongue and eyes had enough. 

I hung around until the tension eased up, walked down 1st Avenue, which was now lined with a hundred or so cops in riot gear. I heard a punk rock band roaring inside First Avenue, and fell-in behind a large group of red-hatted post-rally Trump supporters who looked very alone, far away from the red wave bubble. In a world with unlike-minded people, some of whom held anti-Trump signs. 

I biked home slowly through the quiet streets in the rain. Hell if it didn’t feel something like an all-cleansing shower.

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Comments (104)

  1. Submitted by RB Holbrook on 10/11/2019 - 03:42 pm.

    “Nobody’s out here to hate people and all that nonsense. That’s why I’m here carrying a ‘Hang the Traitor Liberals’ sign.”

    • Submitted by Tom Crain on 10/11/2019 - 06:09 pm.

      I’m sure the irony was lost on him.

    • Submitted by Betsy Larey on 10/12/2019 - 07:54 am.

      Thanks for mentioning that. They literally do not understand the amount of hatred they spew forth. Because Trump has made this seem like normal behavior. I hope everyone volunteers to get out the vote in 2020. Calling/door to door/ giving rides to the polls. Please, stand up and be counted, our democracy literally depends on it.

  2. Submitted by Henk Tobias on 10/11/2019 - 03:49 pm.

    When a guy holding a sign that advocates hanging his fellow Americans because they hold different political views they he does tells you its not about hate, its about hate.

  3. Submitted by Pat Thompson on 10/11/2019 - 03:53 pm.

    Ah, Jay Gabbert (frequent letter writer to the Star Tribune). Whose sign says HANG THE TRAITOR LIBERALS but is quoted as saying “Nobody’s out here to hate people and all that nonsense.”

    • Submitted by Mike Hindin on 10/12/2019 - 08:13 am.

      If you support trump’s white supremacist, antisemitic, xenophobic, mysogynist, corrupt, phony religious campaign then you define yourself as all of the above. There is no cherry picking trumpism.

  4. Submitted by Steve Timmer on 10/11/2019 - 03:56 pm.

    Terrific photos; they capture the pathos of the event better than any others I have seen. Great work.

  5. Submitted by Connor OKeefe on 10/11/2019 - 04:21 pm.

    “…looked very alone, far away from the red wave bubble. In a world with unlike-minded people, some of whom held anti-Trump signs. ”

    I’m guessing the man who was attacked and beaten by a mob of leftists (showing how love Trump’s hate) felt just that way, too.

    It’s not ironic that those claiming to be fighting intolerance are always behind the violence at these political rallies; it’s pathetic.

    • Submitted by lisa miller on 10/11/2019 - 06:26 pm.

      Oh please, you pick out a few when most were peaceful and yet ignore those Trumpsters holding their hateful signs or the report that some white young men in militia outfits who support Trump were ousted. So someone holds an anti Trump sign or wears a Kapernick T shirt and they get ousted–so much for free speech when they did not interrupt Trump or harass others. Sorry, but even for moderates(and I don’t even care for Frey) this rally was more like a klan gathering. And if you all hate Minneapolis so much, feel free to gather in say, Morrison county. Many of us are tired of those who present things in a binary fashion, ignore facts and degrade others. They look foolish and in the same way we look back on people in the past who yelled jeers at people who didn’t look like them as they marched to attend equal schools, so will people look back at people who supported Trump and wonder ‘what the….’

      • Submitted by Connor OKeefe on 10/12/2019 - 07:00 am.

        I’m sorry ma’am, but holding signs you find disturbing =/= beating someone. Aditionally there were several reported instances of Trump supporters being spat upon; what kind of person does that?

        There was a bonfire set in the middle of the street that consisted of Trump campaign gear. Where did the protesters get those things, do you think? Torn from the person’s of people gathered to support their candidate; that is to say participating in Democracy.

        We simply do not witness these thuggish acts at political gatherings unless and until lefties arrive. It is no coincidence that police always form their lines to protect citizens from violent leftist protesters.

        • Submitted by John Boyt on 10/12/2019 - 09:19 am.

          “Us, us, us, us, us, us, us and them, them, them, them, them . . .”
          Such a waste. Who or what is it that wants us so torn apart?

          • Submitted by Connor OKeefe on 10/12/2019 - 10:55 am.

            In my opinion, when we reached a place where we cannot even agree on what a human being is, we’re irretrievably torn. Personally, I believe we’d all be happier if we divvied up the country and parted ways amicably.

        • Submitted by Paul Udstrand on 10/13/2019 - 10:53 am.

          They found a box of abandoned trump stuff. That’s what they burned. And no one was beaten by anyone although there were some mild confrontations. This fear mongering is kind of impressive.

      • Submitted by Cheryl Salo on 10/12/2019 - 07:18 am.

        Thank you, Lisa. Well said.

      • Submitted by Mike Hindin on 10/12/2019 - 08:15 am.

        Trump hold Nuremberg style rallies. Ho many times has he encouraged viole including offering to pay for lawyers for thugs?

  6. Submitted by Karen Sandness on 10/11/2019 - 04:29 pm.

    Note that the pro-Trump people quoted are all about “I support the president,” “I love what he’s doing,” “Jesus is my Savior/Trump is my president.” It’s all emotion with them. Or maybe they don’t want to go into detail about exactly what it is they like about what he is doing.

    • Submitted by Henry Johnson on 10/12/2019 - 12:03 am.

      I noticed that too Karen. They say – ” I just love everything about him” – despite all the non-stop lies, his fishy ties to Russia, his love of tyrants, his obstruction of justice and contempt for the constitution, his multiple crooked lawyers who of course he knew nothing about what they were doing (yeah, right), hush money to silence mistresses, dozens of allegations of sexual assault and his own Access Hollywood admissions in that regard, his attempts to create a dictatorship by muzzling the congress and judicial system and trying to quash the free press, his seeking foreign help to win elections, and now his betrayal of the Kurds, and on and on. And that’s just a partial list.

      But “we love him, nothing in particular, just everything.” Duh…

      Talk about a lack of critical thinking.

      He can do no wrong according to his base, and so he feels free to do whatever he wants, legal or illegal, beneficial or harmful to the country, against the constitution or not.

      As sycophant Mike Pence said about breaking the emoluments clause by profiting from the presidency personally – “who cares?”.

      The cult members, as with all cults, don’t care at all about all the misdeeds of their leader either – if the leader did it, it’s A-OK!

      That’s the way a cult works, the leader is above reproach.

      Sadly, I don’t think there’s any other country in the developed world with such a large percentage of ignorant, easily conned people as we have here in the US, blindly supporting a narcissistic, dishonest, ignorant, foul-mouthed reality TV show host, and thinking he’s just the greatest because he knows how to work a crowd, as if politics were a world wide wrestling show.

      Cheers for our team and boos for the bad guy “lefties” – who cares about being truthful, being ethical, or legality or respecting the constitution?

      It’s all about stirring up drama and reveling in it – we just love him, like they love whatever WWE wrestler is their favorite, and they love to hate whoever his nemesis wrestler’s are.

      In fact, I would bet if a study of Trump supporters were done, there would be an unusually high percentage who are WWE fans.

      The dynamic is the same – a lack of critical thinking, just instinctual “Us versus them” emotions to whip up and have the followers revel in.

      It’s called demagoguery – stir up people’s bases emotions, and use it to your advantage.

      Hitler loved rallies too – all about drama there too – the majestic rows of Nazi eagles, golden and glittering in the torch light, the chants coming from a crowd of 80,000 in the arena, the fiery words of the cult leader to stir up the passions of the crowd.

      Same dynamic with Trump – the enemies are the lefties, this democrat is bad, Romney is bad, my lawyer is responsible for anything bad the lamestream media say I did, the press is bad, everyone’s against me and against you too, follow me without question and I’ll right all these wrongs I’ve just planted in your brain!

      Don’t let yourself be conned people, this guy isn’t out to help you, he’s a rich, entitled one-percenter who’s only legislative accomplishment to date is to pass a tax cut that primarily benefited the rich like he and his family.

      With a few crumbs for the rest of us that were designed in the legislation to expire in 2025, surprise surprise, a year after he leaves office!

      • Submitted by Glenn Thompson on 10/12/2019 - 08:27 am.

        EXACTLY!

      • Submitted by C.S. Senne on 10/12/2019 - 11:37 am.

        Thanks, Mr.Johnson, for writing. This wanna-be dictator with criminal, corrupt, and sociopathic tendencies needs to be held accountable. Every day. The stench from his spittle-laced, repulsive, dirty-mouthed rally will hang in our atmosphere for days.

    • Submitted by Connor OKeefe on 10/12/2019 - 08:55 am.

      Despite unprecidented hate and intransigence from the Democrat House caucus, Trump has:

      Seated SCOTUS justices who will protect and defend the US Constitution

      Restored balance to federal circuit courts

      Taken on unfair Chinese trade

      Lowered taxes

      Enacted policies that have helped us reach historically low unemployment, and led us to energy independence

      Stemmed the tide of illegal immigration

      Secured historical cooperation from Mexico in our fight against illegal immigration

      Achieved prison reform

      Put Americans, and America first in all of his work

      No emotion, just facts

      • Submitted by Dennis Wagner on 10/12/2019 - 01:12 pm.

        And you can explain why Obama was not able to seat a Supreme Court Nominee? It wasn’t obstruction, it wasn’t hate and it wasn’t intransigence now was it! Please enough of the my hands are clean and yours are not BS hypocracy.
        You forgot a couple, Is running up the national debt at over $1T a year, and according to your master “These are the best of times”
        And who says those justices aren’t their to destroy the constitution, you know like making corporations people, or making women’s bodily functions subject to the jurisdiction of the stare, Or perhaps denying the congress the right of oversight to a dictator want to be?
        Lowered taxes, for the wealthy, word is that many homeowners lost a total of $1T in home value with your lower taxes and then paid $34B in tariffs.
        Immigration? Evidently you are pro putting kids in cages, and hating and kicking your neighbors in need, which religion supports those virtues? It sure as H can’t be the Muslims because Trump and his followers appear to hate those folks with a passion!
        Enacted policies: He inherited a great economy with great momentum, but I suppose trying to kill the Green Energy industry is a good thing, wind turbines cause cancer, more auto exhaust pollution is good for us, more coal pollution is good for us as well. ,
        And on and on and on………..yep right, just the facts, like Trump in the land of 10,000 lakes spouting more of his 10,000 lies.

    • Submitted by Paul Udstrand on 10/13/2019 - 10:56 am.

      Yes, the fact is by and large Trump supporters don’t actually know what he’s doing, that’s why when you ask them they can’t tell you. He’s just a white guy attacking people and things they don’t like… and that’s good enough for them.

      • Submitted by Steve Roth on 10/15/2019 - 04:38 pm.

        This sums it all up: during Trump’s government shutdown, a Trump supporter who’s business was facing a downturn thanks to their leader’s idiocy exclaimed – “he’s not hurting the people he should be hurting.”

        Empathy, according to Trump and the GOP, is a sign of weakness.

  7. Submitted by richard owens on 10/11/2019 - 04:42 pm.

    Thanks! great coverage!

  8. Submitted by joe smith on 10/11/2019 - 05:08 pm.

    No violence inside, no call to violence by President Trump, only violence was Lefty protestors outside. Interestingly enough the Mayor of Minneapolis was complaining about Trump spewing violence and the only violence was from his supporters.
    20,000 thousand folks had a fun night and supported the cops and Trump.

    • Submitted by Dennis Wagner on 10/12/2019 - 03:01 pm.

      Joe in case you were wondering, words have meaning, And you are suggesting that all the rhetoric against our Mayor and our congressional representative and other elected representatives is not implying violence? You are aware of the term “Hate speech”? Trump, had all 4 branches of governemnt for 2 years and now only has 3 of them and the world isn’t fair when folks start calling him out for his corruptness, Its t is like suggesting our forefathers were responsible for starting the revolution because they didn’t follow the preaching of King George, they were the traitors, they incited the violence, why didn’t they just follow corrupt King Georges thinking? That is what the Trump followers look like from this vantage point, Why are you against our corrupt president, why are you inciting violence, it should have nothing
      to do with his hateful rhetoric about our local leaders or Somali neighbors, etc. etc. We should feel sorry that the hateful leader is being called out for what many of us see him as, the greatest fear monger and divider of the country during our times. Joe, it is about our civic duty to our decedents to hold the democracy together, not to cater to a spoiled 71 year old lying manipulating dictator want a be, snap out of it, pull yourself together man!

      • Submitted by joe smith on 10/12/2019 - 07:56 pm.

        Dennis, are you justifying violence? Interestingly enough the only violence was Leftist protesters outside. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me, I guess those days are over.

        • Submitted by Dennis Wagner on 10/13/2019 - 08:28 am.

          Joe, you are justifying it. Sticks and stones, right, It was the words of Hitler that started WWII. Evidently the Trumpies are looking for something akin to that here in America?

          • Submitted by joe smith on 10/14/2019 - 09:16 am.

            Words didn’t start WWII, it was Germany invading a dozen countries and the bombing of Pearl Harbor….. No words, just lots of bombs and bullets started that war.

            • Submitted by Dennis Wagner on 10/14/2019 - 10:17 am.

              Joe, really? So why did Hitler give all those speeches? Why is Trump giving all those speeches? Just words, no meaning. If words are useless directionless, how did those folks even know what to do? How did they know how to invade those “dozens of countries” instinct, telepathy? See what happens when you get all wrapped around the axle supporting propaganda.

              • Submitted by Brian Nelson on 10/14/2019 - 10:58 am.

                The poet W.H. Auden knew well that words matter. It starts with words:

                “Exiled Thucydides knew
                All that a speech can say
                About Democracy,
                And what dictators do,
                The elderly rubbish they talk
                To an apathetic grave;
                Analysed all in his book,
                The enlightenment driven away,
                The habit-forming pain,
                Mismanagement and grief:
                We must suffer them all again.”

                From “September 1, 1939”

              • Submitted by joe smith on 10/14/2019 - 04:36 pm.

                How did they know how to invade those other countries?? They were in the Army!!! German citizens didn’t invade anyone because of “words”…. The German Army invaded Countries because that is what they were ordered to do. The Germans had the best fighting men, generals, equipment and ran roughshod over Europe not with words but with bullets.
                Sorry to tell you citizens didn’t get together after a Friday night rally and take over France by the weekend.

                • Submitted by Dennis Wagner on 10/15/2019 - 11:27 am.

                  Joe, the simple question again, how did they get those orders? Did they come as images? or perhaps they were physic, or maybe mental telepathy, a vision in a dream?. The point is they came in the form of words. Same words that Hitler, Mussolini, and every dictator since the beginning of time uses to incite followers to support their dictatorial program. “Il Duce ha sempre ragione” “The Duce is always right” , sounds just like Trump doesn’t it? The frame work of Trump is to impose a dictatorial style governemnt in the USA with him as the dictator, he admits he makes all the decisions, and he uses his propaganda to generate that support. He is never wrong, anyone that doesn’t agree with him always is, FBI, CIA, Scientists, economists, news reporters, Mayor of Minneapolis, congress, previous administrations, and on and on. And just like a dictator he tries to undermine the laws of the land, the latest example congress’s power to investigate impeachment, or, are we reading 2 different constitutions? As Governor Kasich said this morning, its time some folks look in the mirror and decided what is good for the country vs their personal ego? Going to be tough for a lot of folks to walk back from their journey down dictator lane.

                  • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 10/16/2019 - 11:06 am.

                    The more basic question is, why did they follow those orders? Yes, the German military had obedience instilled in its culture, but what about the rest of the citizenry? Why did they go along with the Hitler agenda?

                    I’m placing a large bet it was words.

    • Submitted by Paul Udstrand on 10/13/2019 - 11:06 am.

      What violence? The thing that really impresses about all of these Trumpster complaints about “violence” is cowardice they betray. People show up in a free country to make their voices heard and these guys are suddenly worried about violence. Mass shootings, murders, beatings, etc. etc. …. no worries. A guy shows up with carrying an anti Trump sign and oh my God look out for the violence!

      White supremacists show up with assault rifles slung over their shoulders and burning torches in their hands… no worries, that’s America. But unarmed protesters show up carrying signs and the fabric of society is suddenly in tatters.

      I’m afraid I have to keep saying this: If the only violence you worry about is anti-Fascist violence… even where there is none… you’re probably a Fascist.

    • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 10/14/2019 - 09:38 am.

      Did they show a video of Trump murdering his opponents? I understand that’s now a feature of his adoration meetings.

    • Submitted by Dennis Wagner on 10/15/2019 - 08:56 pm.

      Here you go Joe, Fresh from Trump National Doral Miami.

      Burns went on: “Do I have anybody who is ready to go to war for Donald J. Trump, for this nation? I can’t hear you? Anybody? Ready to go to war!

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/listen-to-conference-goers-at-trump-resort-chant-for-%e2%80%9cwar%e2%80%9d/ar-AAIPdyD?li=BBnbcA1

  9. Submitted by Elisa Wright on 10/11/2019 - 05:24 pm.

    Hopefully the Trump campaign is satisfied with their exploration of the depths of cultural division and won’t be back any time soon. I left work early not because I am a political agnostic, but because I worried it wouldn’t be safe. Whew, what a relief! Nobody got run over by a car. Thank you Minneapolis for managing a tense situation.

  10. Submitted by Mike Chrun on 10/11/2019 - 05:41 pm.

    “No call to violence by President Trump.” Yes, probably because he was so busy vilifying and insulting various individuals and all Somalis in general.

  11. Submitted by Barbara Boldenow on 10/11/2019 - 07:59 pm.

    I am dismayed at all the coverage of those trump supporters in this article. It makes me sick to look at them and the event. The evil image of that man coming into our city and causing nothing but division & hate. He urges them on and encourages their misconceptions. Someone needs to put a stop to him, but what do we do with all those people who think he is great after he is gone. This is a serious national crisis and they do not need to be given such coverage. MinnPost is supposed to be better than that.

    • Submitted by Mike Schumann on 10/12/2019 - 09:33 am.

      Pretty discouraging to see how much support there is for Trump, isn’t it??? Keep calling us ignorant racists and it’s going to get worse. A lot of Trump’s support is the result of the hysterical reaction to his election in 2016, rather than an inherent love for the guy.

      If the Democrats weren’t jumping off the left wing cliff, Trump could have faded from the scene just like Jessie Ventura did. Given the choice we have now, a lot of people are going to hold their noses and vote for Trump..

      • Submitted by ian wade on 10/13/2019 - 06:19 pm.

        That rally was no more of an indication of national support than a football game.
        You’re going to be shocked in 12 months and I don’t mean in a good way. The celebrations that will resonate around the globe will have you dealing with some serious introspection..

      • Submitted by Matt Haas on 10/13/2019 - 09:08 pm.

        Discouraging? You’re a threat to yourself and others. Cults have a tendency to meet less than desirable ends, you might read up on a few, for your own sake…

      • Submitted by Karen Sandness on 10/13/2019 - 10:38 pm.

        So in short, your whole motivation for supporting Trump is “owning the libs”?

        • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 10/14/2019 - 10:26 am.

          What else could it possibly be? His policies are standard issue Republicanism. What else could explain his appeal?

          • Submitted by Henry Johnson on 10/14/2019 - 10:41 pm.

            I think you and I agree most of the time RB, but I disagree with the idea that the president is offering “standard issue Republicanism”.

            Since WW II, republicans as a rule were strong against the threat of Russia, China, and generally speaking dictatorships (well, unless we thought they were useful to us – e.g. – Saudi Arabia), but our current president has embraced and offers praise for dictators that are a threat to the USA (Kim/Putin/Erdogan), and takes actions that benefit their interests, not US interests – prime example, betraying faithful allies the Kurds, who have now been forced to turn to Assad/Russia for help, and which probably means a resurgence of ISIS.

            That is totally against US interests, faith in the US as an ally has been seriously damaged worldwide, but his friend in Russia is happy, as is Erdogan, as is Trump towers Istanbul I suppose.

            Republicans historically were in favor of family values and decency, but our current president I think by his own admission has made a lifetime career at chasing skirts (look at his Howard Stern interviews, or the Access Hollywood tape), alleged infidelity, many alleged claims of sexual assault, and unlike any previous president I’m aware of anyway, now is taking to cursing like a sailor in public speeches tearing down the dignity of the presidency, and meaning Mom and Dad may have to get the kids out of the room to watch the president speak – not good.

            And perhaps most importantly, to me anyway, being a “conservative” means you value and respect the constitution and the rule of law, but since day one in office the president has tried his best to crash thru any limits to his power the constitution has in place via the separation of powers, or limits that the rule of law puts in place, or limits to his ability to spout untruths that the press then calls him on, which means they are “the enemy of the state” (he apparently views himself as “the state”!).

            Both the constitution, the rule of law, and the vigilance of the free press, are clearly viewed as mere annoying obstacles to be crashed thru, destroyed or muzzled if possible, or worked around if necessary.

            That is not conservatism, that’s fascism, and that is a BIG difference.

            I think this is why many true conservatives have left the party over the course of the last three years, they say they barely recognize the party now, and they believe it has betrayed and abandoned many of it’s own core values, and I think that’s absolutely true.

            After being a democrat most of his life (even contributing to one of HIllary’s campaigns), he now for the sake of getting into office has put on some republican talking points (e.g. – being pro-guns and anti-abortion), but I think of those like a costume he puts on because it serves him to get and stay in office as a “republican”.

            Note that for much of his life he was openly pro-choice, even “very pro-choice”, yet now he’s a “conservative” who is pro-life. Alrighty then!

            I think his one true core belief boils down to one thing – DJ Trump is just the most wonderful thing ever! All beliefs beyond that are mainly for show I think.

            As for “What else could explain his appeal?”, IMO, he is in fact very talented at being a demagogue who knows how to get the villagers riled up and ready to light their torches, grab the pitch forks and go after the political Frankenstein’s he has portrayed as the common enemy.

            And, to his credit in terms of political acumen, he told swing state voters what they wanted to hear – I’ll “drain the swamp”, I’ll bring jobs back to the USA, I’ll bring back coal, etc. etc.

            The swamp is far thicker now than it’s even been thanks to his corrupt and self-serving administration, I don’t think there’s been more than a trickle of manufacturing jobs coming back to the US, and coal is never coming back in any serious way – natural gas is cheaper and cleaner.

            But while Democrats were going on and on about gay rights as a major emphasis for example, Trump was a smart enough demagogue to talk about and promise things that the majority of people, especially swing-state people, actually personally feel strongly about, because they affect them personally.

            “All politics is local” as I think Tip O’Neil said, and Trump is smart enough to tell the swing state voters what he thinks they want to hear, a lesson that the democratic candidates could benefit from to be honest.

            I’m not suggesting they lie, but placing emphasis on what matters to average Joe and average Jane in the swing states especially would be very, very helpful I think, in winning over undecided votes and winning elections in those states.

            News flash – the gay and strongly liberal vote is already going for whoever the democratic candidates are, IMO the party needs to get the undecided, independent, moderate votes that are UP FOR GRABS, especially in the swing states, in order to have the best chance of defeating the Trump-publicans in 2020.

            • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 10/15/2019 - 09:02 am.

              If you look at two of the main policies his acolytes bring up – tax cuts, packing the courts with reactionaries – this is standard issue Republicanism. The rest of it is the modern Republican Party. His isolationism is actually a throwback to the Republicanism of the pre-war years.

              “Republicans historically were in favor of family values and decency . . .” They talk a good game, but in reality they’re as licentious as the rest of us. Check out the Palins, if you dare.

            • Submitted by Matt Haas on 10/15/2019 - 11:14 am.

              Why? There aren’t that many out there. There are more than enough folks out there, that aren’t conservatives, to win EVERY election, they simply need to be spoken to. Pandering to a mythical “center” which does nothing to address THEIR concerns, in favor of presumably more “important” wavering centrists does nothing to activate them. Your approach presumes an inherent conservative lean in the populace that might have been the case in decades past, but which is steadily and rapidly declining along with the dying out of the generation that entrenched it in our society.

      • Submitted by Rachel Kahler on 10/18/2019 - 08:58 am.

        I always love the idea that people become racists because they were unjustly called racists. Look, if you show up in a white robe and hood with a bunch of KKKers, it’s reasonable to call you a racist. I’m sorry it hurts your feelings, but maybe, just maybe, wearing a white robe and hood means something. Supporting Trump and his policies is pretty much showing up in a white robe. You didn’t start liking Trump because someone accused you of liking the things Trump does–you are just blaming someone else for it. Take some personal responsibility.

  12. Submitted by Frank Phelan on 10/11/2019 - 08:46 pm.

    Don Trump is contesting Minnesota in 2020?

    Bring it.

  13. Submitted by Ray J Wallin on 10/11/2019 - 10:26 pm.

    There were ample people from both sides yelling at each other and using rude language. Instead this article is one-sided, showing only half the problem. Closing our eyes to one side’s faults is not a solution.

    This story could have shown how polarized we are. Perhaps, at some point, adults will rise from this mess and show our children how to discuss issues without throwing barbs.

  14. Submitted by Barbara Dennis on 10/12/2019 - 06:56 am.

    Thanks for the great coverage in your article

  15. Submitted by bea sinna on 10/12/2019 - 07:24 am.

    I am so sick of politicians and their supporters, including the media, who act like first graders on the playground calling each other booger’s and turds!

  16. Submitted by Sharon Anderson on 10/12/2019 - 09:10 am.

    Watched all on CSpan Wheres Hunter https://greatamericandaily.com/joe-biden-impeachment/#
    Further Affiant only Republic Donald Trump Supporter for St. Paul City Council Ward 2 http://depos-stpaul.blogspot.com

  17. Submitted by Christopher Williams on 10/12/2019 - 09:32 am.

    As a Plymouth resident, I take offense to the thought of it being a “republican stronghold”. We just booted out that turkey Erik Paulsen for a democrat!

    • Submitted by Annie Grandy on 10/14/2019 - 11:42 pm.

      And booted the Republican legislator and replaced her with Ginny Klevorn who is dedicated to working for the people.

  18. Submitted by Arthur Himmelman on 10/12/2019 - 09:45 am.

    Throughout history, most countries have had authoritarian regimes ruled by dictators whatever they called their particular version of it. Among the most well known examples in the 20th century were Mao in China, Stalin in the U.S.S.R., and Hitler in Germany, but there are many less well known as well. In the 21st century, Putin in Russia, Abdel Fattah el-Sisi in Egypt, and currently in the news, president Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, used a facade of democratic elections to become an autocratic ruler. Fortunately, in the U.S., we never have had an authoritarian president. Trump, however, clearly wants to become our first in some form, and he is testing the boundaries of authoritarian rule in many ways.Trump has two major strengths in his efforts to rule as an American dictator: (1) Trump is by far the most effective political demagogue in American history; and (2) he has what is known as a mass psychology base, in this case tens of millions of people who feel righteous and powerful without having to think about if what Trump says is true or what he does is right or even legal. If you want to know more, I suggest reading The Mass Psychology of Fascism by Wilhelm Reich.

    • Submitted by Marcia Wattson on 10/13/2019 - 08:09 am.

      Thank you. This is straight to the point. The question is always, how do rational people ever learn to persuade emotional, irrational people?

    • Submitted by David Rassat on 10/13/2019 - 09:38 am.

      Great analysis, Arthur! The lack of critical thinking in America is the scariest observable in our current political climate. Diabolical tools like attacking the press, divisive rhetoric, and spouting lies as facts are tried and true methods of all dictators and wanna be autocrats. Enlightened diversity strengthens; myopic diversity destroys.

    • Submitted by Kathleen Murphy on 10/14/2019 - 04:48 pm.

      Mr. Himmelman – very thoughtful comments.
      I believe there is an overwhelming multitude of Americans with concern for the greater good.
      I also believe that these Americans are destined to prevent today’s tide of fear-mongering antagonism from destroying our country. Independently-minded Americans with good hearts span from right to left. They will and must prevail on Election Day 2020.

  19. Submitted by C.S. Senne on 10/12/2019 - 10:25 am.

    “What a terrible era in which idiots govern the blind.”–Shakespeare

  20. Submitted by Gene Nelson on 10/12/2019 - 10:48 am.

    I read a comment from another source about a Dem who put on the maga hat and attended the rally. He was amazed at the fanaticism of the trumpers and their overwhelming love for him.
    Not only do these cult members have no love for truth or facts, they’re downright scary.
    We must get out and Vote. We didn’t think he would win the last election and look what that gave us.
    Vote vote vote people. Our democracy cannot afford trump or his rival SS cult.

  21. Submitted by George Kimball on 10/12/2019 - 02:56 pm.

    A key measure for me is, would you want the candidate to come to your home for dinner, and even more important, would you want him or her to meet and influence your grandchildren? With Trump, absolutely no way would I allow him in my home. He’s crude, he’s rude, he’s vulgar, he’s a childish bully. Probably the worst role model my grandkids could ever encounter. I’m fine with exposiure to people with different political philosophies, but not that guy.

    • Submitted by joe smith on 10/14/2019 - 08:35 am.

      George, you may want a dinner companion for President but many want a fighter. I am glad NAFTA, a one way, job sucking out of our country deal, is gone, Iranian deal was worthless and guaranteed a nuclear Iran in a decade, lower taxes, yes, less regulations, yes, draining the swamp, yes, fighting China’s unfair trade policies (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama scared to do it), sticking up for cops not denigrating them…. It takes a fighter to get change, not a dinner companion. That is why Trump can pack Target Center and Joe Biden can’t fill a High School gym. That is also why Trump beat Hillary.

      • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 10/14/2019 - 09:06 am.

        NAFTA is not gone, just rebranded.

        Iran is now free to develop whatever nuclear capability it can.

        The trade war with China has been fought to a stalemate.

        So much winning!

        • Submitted by joe smith on 10/14/2019 - 03:49 pm.

          How wrong! New American, Mexico, Canada deal plugged the hole where products could be shipped to USA without being manufactured AND majorly parts built in USA or Canada/Mexico…. Huge difference! Iran was free to build whatever they wanted on special designated areas where inspectors could not look with the Iran deal, what’s the difference. China’s economy is collapsing yet we keep the pressure on…. Deal will be made through strength not weakness )putting 1.5 BILLION on a pallet). Democrats won’t pass the new Canada/Mexico deal in the House because they know its better.

          • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 10/14/2019 - 04:37 pm.

            Our trade deficit with China is larger than it was when Trump took office.

            The money on the pallet meme is so much nonsense that I am not surprised you continue to espouse it.

            Treaties are ratified by the Senate, which – last I looked – is still controlled by Republicans. The USMCA is NAFTA with a few tweaks, largely the same tweaks as negotiated by the Obama administration.

          • Submitted by Matt Haas on 10/15/2019 - 11:19 am.

            When were those deals put into force again Joe? What’s that, they haven’t? You claim to be a businessman, if we come to some business arrangement wherein I agree to provide you some good or service, but tell you I need to go back to my board to get approval, do we have a deal? Can I charge you before I sign the contract, cuz that would be great…

      • Submitted by Dennis Wagner on 10/14/2019 - 09:19 am.

        “That is why Trump can pack Target Center ”
        Big rallies are part of the fascists playbook,great for their propaganda message, Mussolini, Hitler 101, “Fighter”, you mean private bone spurs?
        surely you jest? NAFTA, broken replacement Zero, Iranian deal, replacement Zero, etc. etc. Lower taxes,for the wealthy, higher deficits for the country, “drained the swamp”, actually filled the swamp, count the corrupt folks that quit his cabinet, count the legal cases. Joe, just because you want to believe that propaganda from “Il Duce ha sempre ragione” doesn’t make it so. Sorry the world is not flat no matter how much you want to believe it. .

      • Submitted by Edward Blaise on 10/14/2019 - 09:43 am.

        Holy Cow!

        I never realized what a great job he is doing.

        It is amazing though that this fellow can’t get off of a 40% approval rating.

        Maybe because he replaced (trying) NAFTA with NAFTA. Iran is now building bombs, the tax cut did not generate even 10% of what it costs in new tax revenue leading to record deficits, the long upward slope of the Obama economy is being done in by ill thought out tariffs, Rudy Guiliani is Swamp Personified; but MPD union chief Bob Kroll thinks Trump is a great guy. Bob also thinks it is hilarious to hang beer cans and cigarette packs on the Xmas tree in the lobby of the precinct house on Plymouth Avenue.

        And today’s bonus question:

        We abandoned our allies, the Kurds, because:

        1. They were not there when we needed them on Normandy Beach.

        2. Turkey and Erdogan have tens of millions of dollars of business dealings with the Trump organization compared to ZERO with the Kurds and little hope for a Trump Tower Kurdistan to change that.

        I will give you that MINNPOST pro-Trump commenters are generally smart, thoughtful folks with a different opinion than most others here.

        That they cannot see that Donald Trump has screwed every partner/associate in the past 50 years is quite surprising. Summarized very nicely in Republican consultant Rick Wilson’s book:

        “Everything Trump Touches Dies”

      • Submitted by ian wade on 10/14/2019 - 04:59 pm.

        LOL…”draining the swamp.” Everybody in Trump’s corrupt administration has been lining their own pockets with your tax dollars. Trump and his administration IS the swamp. Every night he goes to bed and chuckles at what he’s pulling over on his supporters. The funny part is that they don’t care. He just hates the same people they do and that’s good enough fr them.

  22. Submitted by Tom Christensen on 10/12/2019 - 04:22 pm.

    Defining what they like about Trump is always undefined by, “Everything he has done”. Translation, I don’t know because he hasn’t done anything positive for me or the country.

  23. Submitted by Chas Dalseide on 10/13/2019 - 10:33 am.

    It appears to me that very few people understand the term “agents provocateurs”

  24. Submitted by Paul Udstrand on 10/13/2019 - 11:10 am.

    I would simply advise Trump supporters to enjoy this delusion while they can. Trump is going to go down like the Titanic in the next election. We might have to send the 82nd Air Borne into the White House to remove him after he loses, but he will lose, and American will rejoice.

  25. Submitted by Edward Blaise on 10/13/2019 - 07:38 pm.

    MINNPOST Commenting terms of service:

    We intend for this area to be used by our readers as a place for civil, thought-provoking and high-quality public discussion. In order to achieve this, MinnPost requires that all commenters register and post comments with their actual names and place of residence. MinnPost reserves the right to remove postings that include the use of foul language, personal attacks or the use of language that may be libelous or interpreted as inciting hate or sexual harassment.

    It’s a good thing Trump can spew his hate without the nagging rules that most accept as common decency:

    “I want to see Hunter,” Mr. Trump said, mocking the younger Biden as “not too smart.”

    “Hunter, you know nothing about energy,” he went on. “You know nothing about China. You know nothing about anything, frankly.”

    “Hunter, you’re a loser”

    “He was only a good vice president because he understood how to kiss Barack Obama’s ass,”

    • Submitted by Edward Blaise on 10/14/2019 - 11:33 am.

      Forgot to add:

      “He was only a good vice president because he understood how to kiss Barack Obama’s ass,”

      To which Mike Pence smiled widely, vigorously nodded his head and heartily applauded…

      • Submitted by ian wade on 10/14/2019 - 05:02 pm.

        because we all know that’s what Jesus would have done. Pence and his wife might be the biggest hypocrites of all.

  26. Submitted by Jeffrey Swainhart on 10/14/2019 - 12:40 pm.

    For all who are denying right wing hate, how do you explain this video of Trump, murdering opponents and the media being played at a his resort? Although the Trump campaign feigns outrage, the maker of the video was at the White House for Trump’s internet summit. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/us/politics/trump-video.html

  27. Submitted by Diane Mach on 10/14/2019 - 02:37 pm.

    Any remnant respect for the truth held by Trump supporters went up in smoke the moment Kellyanne Conway sold the Alternative Facts Kool-Aid. Nothing underscores this more than the alternative facts spewed by Trump supporters in their responses to Jim’s article. The breadth and depth of racist tentacles, hatred for what is good and decent, unhinged support for a treasonous president are the ingredients for the rise of fascism. Our democracy is far more fragile than most of us realize. The speed in which it is disappearing under the Trump administration is alarming. If you believe in our Constitution, and you want to advance democracy, you must denounce Trumpism. There are no sidelines; get out and protest, attend townhall meetings, write to Congress, VOTE! We cannot be quiet. Four more years of Trump will end our democracy.

    • Submitted by Matt Haas on 10/15/2019 - 08:24 am.

      Personally I prefer Gazelka’s hilariously delusion Strib oped. Brings the chickens home to roost locally. After all, if Trump is gonna push the national GOP brand into the abyss why shouldn’t our MNGOP not plunge headlong into oblivion in turn?

      • Submitted by RB Holbrook on 10/15/2019 - 09:04 am.

        Oldtimers like me will remember when the Minnesota Republican Party was sufficiently shamed by Watergate that they rebranded themselves the “Independent Republican Party.” The name was changed back after the ascendancy of St. Ronald of Burbank.

      • Submitted by Edward Blaise on 10/16/2019 - 08:40 am.

        Agreed. My personal favorite from Gazelka’s piece was:

        “The left wants sex education in kindergarten, drag queens sexualizing story time at the library, and giving out high school diplomas for simply showing up rather than for demonstrating basic knowledge and skills.”

        This guy is the highest ranking, most influential, GOP office holder in the state.

        And he really believes that these are the critical issues confronting our time.

        And that Gazelka, a committed member of the christian conservative wing of the party, finds common cause with Trump is hilarious. Obviously did not get the “losing the mandate of heaven” memo from Pat Robertson.

        • Submitted by Edward Blaise on 10/16/2019 - 11:28 am.

          And, I must add, I am intrigued by the idea it may be time to visit the Nisswa public library where, apparently, 6′ 5″ guys with beard stubble appear in dresses and high heels as they meet with groups of 6 and 7 year olds to read a Curious George book with humping monkeys.

          Seems unlikely; but, you never know…

  28. Submitted by Barry Tungseth on 10/16/2019 - 02:59 am.

    Trump has become famous for spewing lies, insults, and misinformation out of his mouth. So if you attended the rally in support of this documented and proven liar, you sure did not read Trumps own book “The Art Of The Deal” before throwing your support and vote to him. But then …. you would have to read and comprehend.

  29. Submitted by Edward Blaise on 10/16/2019 - 08:59 am.

    Interesting to see the unabated enthusiasm of our amateur Trumpians.

    It is also interesting to note that professional Trumpians, those with actual jobs in the administration are beginning to see a future of unending legal bills fighting for a man who has zero history of sticking with anyone when the times get tough.

    Their enthusiasm seems a little more restrained and they are now a little more willing to jump ship because they know actual consequences await them beyond ridicule in a small public venue like this.

    • Submitted by Matt Haas on 10/16/2019 - 10:01 am.

      In cults, the masterminds are always gonna save their own skin, for the programmed, there’s no escape, they’re going down with the ship…

    • Submitted by Steve Roth on 10/17/2019 - 10:45 am.

      The record-setting turnover has been under-reported. “Only the best people” don’t stick around long. The few remaining loyalists – don’t worry, Trump will throw them under the bus eventually – you have to wonder about their integrity.

  30. Submitted by Kathleen Castrovinci on 10/17/2019 - 10:15 am.

    When I see photos of women at Trump rallies, I wonder what in the hell are they thinking?

    They are in a Party that wants to CONTROL their bodies, their ability to make their own financial decisions, to even CONTROL their ability to think. These women MAKE it a habit to vote AGAINST their better Economic and Social interests. I just do not get it.

    • Submitted by Edward Blaise on 10/17/2019 - 03:11 pm.

      The President would attribute that to his raw, inherent sex appeal that has served him so well through out the years…

      When it comes to voting against their Economic and Social interests I give you West Virginia as Exhibit A. Elizabeth Warren should be polling 3 to 1 over Trump if Economic and Social interests were truly evaluated.

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