In a chatty night-time interview on Fox News TV with Greta Van Sustern (video below), Gov. Tim Pawlenty dishes on several subjects, including his comment about Chris Matthews’ man-crush on President Obama:
PAWLENTY: “Well, I jokingly said that the only thing rising faster than the debt and deficit of the government is Chris Matthews’s man crush on Barack Obama. I was going to use the term, Greta, ‘bro-mance,’ but I thought that was a little too nuanced.”
On Brett Favre:
PAWLENTY: Well, there was a little news out of, I think, the KansasCityStar.com today that says that there’s still a little activity there, so keep an eye on it.
VAN SUSTEREN: I will keep an eye on it. He’ll be maybe wearing a purple 4. Thank you, Governor.
But most importantly on how the health care debate is boosting Republicans:
PAWLENTY: Well, I think it’s fair to say that this is a grass roots groundswell of people who are ticked off, concerned. They have questions and they’re expressing themselves, and that’s why we have a democracy. So I’m not sure it’s so much as part of a grand strategy as an awakening or a reawakening of the country and people saying, Enough is enough with the federal government trying to take everything to Washington, D.C.
We know the president was a former community organizer, but our definition of a community isn’t the federal government in Washington, D.C. We have other notions about free enterprise, individual responsibility, freedom, liberty, and the like, and he’s headed in a very different direction.
VAN SUSTEREN: I suppose, Governor, right now, being in charge of Democrats is a little bit like herding cats they’ve got — you know, they’ve got the conservative Democrats and they’ve got the more liberal ones. But as a practical matter, the president and Speaker Pelosi and the Senate majority leader, they don’t even need a Republican vote to get this passed. So why don’t they just go ahead, they get their own Democrats, and forget about you Republicans and pass it? Then what?
PAWLENTY: Well, they have the votes to do that, but I think they’ve figured out that they would be ticking off the country. And so you have a situation where President Obama ran as a — at least in his words, in many cases, as somebody who was trying to present himself as a centrist. He’s now leading the nation as a left — a hard-left leader. And this is another example of that. And I think they could do it. They have the power to do it. But I think they’ve taken pause and put the clutch in because they realize the country is in revolt over it.