Abortion foes kill ‘corporations aren’t people’ legislative push

Rep. Peggy Scott

The mere mention of abortion has appeared to derail a Minnesota push for a constitutional amendment overruling the U.S. Supreme Court’s Citizen United decision.

That decision ruled “corporations are people,” upending corporate political spending bans as free speech violations. Several states have passed a resolution calling for a Constitutional Convention to supersede the court. The Minnesota Senate passed that resolution last year.

With the session nearing an end, Rep. Ray Dehn, DFL-Minneapolis, decided to try for a House floor vote Thursday. That’s when abortion came in to play.

Rep. Peggy Scott, R-Andover, made it clear that if the resolution was brought to the floor, she planned to call for an amendment to the resolution that would call for the Constitutional Convention to also deal with overturning the Roe v. Wade decision, which legalized abortion.

Rather than wade into the politics of that old, passionate issue, Dehn said he likely would not bring his resolution to the floor.

Said Scott, “If you’re going to call for a Constitutional Convention because you’re not happy with a Supreme Court decision, you can’t just pick and choose. If they want to open the Constitution up on that issue, I think there are any number of other issues that should be open for discussion.’’ 

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Comments (8)

  1. Submitted by Paul Brandon on 05/16/2014 - 09:37 am.

    Good old legislative ignorance.

    Once a Con Con has been called, it can consider ANY amendment to the Constitution.
    If Scott had any sense she’d support Dehn’s resolution and then support a movement to hijack the convention.

  2. Submitted by Roy Everson on 05/16/2014 - 09:41 am.

    Protecting the innocent

    When does the life of a Corporation begin? Is it at conception or is it when the papers are filed with the state, or when the checks are signed, or when the checks are cashed? When is the birth of the Corporation — perhaps when the Board is elected or a CEO hired? Coming of age — the first politician lobbied, the first jobs exported abroad? If you wanna be an effective lawmaker ya gotta know these things.

    • Submitted by Gerald Abrahamson on 05/19/2014 - 09:17 am.

      “Life begins at conception”–remember?

      When the IDEA of the corporation is first conceived, it is “alive”–per the wingnuts, anyway. So they HAVE to keep it alive–forever. If, for any reason–at any time–they “kill off” their “baby” they are abortionists (by their own definition) or murderers (by their own definition). Look up some of their OLD ideas that “did not make it” (or businesses they closed, etc) and the claims against them are airtight.

  3. Submitted by Steve Titterud on 05/16/2014 - 09:45 am.

    Can amendments proposed by the states under Article 5…

    …be limited in their scope, once a Constitutional Convention is underway ?? I’m no attorney, but a cursory search shows there is some serious dispute about this matter.

    A paper from the Yale Law Journal in 1979 addresses the issue:
    http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1268&context=faculty_scholarship

    Also, a paper in the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy argues that Congress cannot limit the subject matter of the Convention:
    http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No3_Rogersonline.pdf

    Some are arguing that two thirds (34) of the states have ALREADY resolved their request for a Constitutional Convention. Even though some states may have rescinded such resolutions, there is debate as to whether they can legally recant. The issue of whether the House of Representatives has cause to take action right now is being raised on the House floor.
    See http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/02/rare-option-forcing-congress-to-meet-change-constitution-gains-momentum/.

  4. Submitted by mark wallek on 05/16/2014 - 10:17 am.

    Illusions

    I cannot stand people who consider their personal beliefs sacred. Scott is this sort of person. Beliefs are not sacred, and frequently change over time. Beliefs are not precious, they are constructs of the mind, and therefore will pass away as all things that arise must. This is why I find people like Scott disgusting: She elevates a belief, in this case her belief that abortion is wrong, to the level of a truth. This demonstrates a large flaw in her personality that therapy might just help.

  5. Submitted by Peter Nickitas on 05/16/2014 - 11:27 am.

    Constitutional Convention

    Paul Brandon almost answered his own question.

    The question is not an absence of sense. The issues are the absences of intellectual integrity and moral courage to open a Constitutional Convention.

    A Constitutional Convention could actually get reproductive freedom right, and leave the matter in the bedroom. But that would take intellectual integrity and moral courage.

    Roe v. Wade shows the burden of Justice Blackmun’s past experience as the general counsel for the Mayo Clinic. He involved the doctors where they did not need to be, and he imposed a “Minnesota Medical Model” that has only brought trouble and misery for most of the courtry — except for the women who could afford to end pregnancies in Canada or Switzerland before Roe.

    • Submitted by Steve Titterud on 05/16/2014 - 12:33 pm.

      Here’s a few other things some people might want to get “right”…

      …in a Constitutional Convention:

      Civil rights and civil liberties. That pesky Bill of Rights gets in the way of so much. What’s all this nonsense about discrimination based on race, etc. ??

      The Security State. Let’s stop messing around the margins of the relationship between the state and the people with all these silly laws, executive orders, and forcing our government people like Mr. Clapper and Mr. Alexander to lie all the time. Let’s codify the security state in the Constitution itself. That should put an end to all this whining of the people about their precious liberties and let them know once and for all where they are at in relation to the state.

      States Rights. Let’s have the country run by each of the states within its borders and put the federal government in its place. Texas for Texans !! Auschlander Aus !!

      Environmental Protection. This was a stupid mistake by Nixon, and has provided nothing but roadblocks to the job creators.

      Elections and voting rights. Too many people are allowed to vote. We need to get back to the way of our Founding Fathers and impose some criteria on who has the franchise.

      Checks and balances, the 3 branches of government. There is definitely some manipulation we could do here. Maybe we could get by with 2 branches, or even 1 would streamline things a lot. All this regulation has gotten out of hand, and guess where it comes from ??

      Treaties and War. Everyone knows the President can pretty much do whatever he wants, and to prove it, we’ve got war after war without a declaration by the Senate, drone after drone operating in other countries’ air space with or without their permission. Same goes for treaties – centralized power in the Presidency is so much quicker when it comes to getting things done !!

      There’s a lot more where these came from. It’s not going to be about just one person’s pet issue.

  6. Submitted by Jon Lord on 05/21/2014 - 09:13 am.

    amazing

    Anti-abortion and the birth of a Corporation as a person!

    As with most births, now that it exists as a person it should be ignored and all corporate welfare should be cut off (based on the money it has) and they should be taxed as a person at the same rate as a person. As a person they should not receive any special loopholes beyond those given to the general public.
    Unless, of course, some people should get unwritten special treatment based on the amount of money they have. Okay, that’s a given I suppose. These new people ‘do’ have special privileges.

    Currently that person (the corporation) can abort any startup company or subsidiary company it wants to. (I’ve witnessed this) It might want to keep it that way. Bringing up Roe vs Wade might not be in the best interest of these ‘people’.

    I, too, imagine that high on priority of these new people, those who are or become Neo Federalists, will be to get rid of the bill of rights. It’d sure go a lot further in keeping the masses ‘barefoot, pregnant, and down on the farm’ so to speak.

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