Minnesota’s dysfunctional politics takes center stage

So dysfunctional are Minnesota politics that DFL and Republican leaders couldn’t even meet in the same city Tuesday.

In fairness to DFLers, Republicans were invited to join what was billed as a leadership summit at the state Capitol. Current GOP leaders — Gov. Tim Pawlenty, Senate Minority Leader Dave Senjem and House Minority Leader Kurt Zellars — said, “No thanks,” and met instead with business leaders in Eden Prairie in what was described as a “jobs summit.” Pawlenty took along most of his cabinet to the alternate meeting.

Worse than the rejection of the invitation to meet in St. Paul was the assumption by the governor that he knew the outcome of the meeting at the Capitol before it even was held.

“A predictable meeting with a predictable outcome,” he said. He went on to say that DFLers were only interested in protecting “the social welfare state.”

Brutally candid presentations
In fact, former Republican Govs. Al Quie and Arne Carlson were on hand at the state Capitol event, as was former conservative state Sen. David Jennings. Giving brutally candid presentations (PPT) were two nonpartisan officials, the state’s economist, Tom Stinson, and the state’s demographer, Tom Gillaspy.

Minnesota’s getting older, Gillaspy said, which means Minnesotans will be demanding more services, not fewer.

Tom Gillaspy
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Tom Gillaspy

Minnesota can’t cut its way out of its budget problems, (PPT) said Stinson. Neither can it tax its way out.  It will take a combination of cuts, revenue increases and other reforms to bring stability to the state budget.

The deficit will be tougher than ever to solve in the 2012-13 biennium, everyone (except the absent Republicans) was saying. The projected $4.6 billion deficit for the 2010-2011 biennium was eliminated with one-time federal stimulus funds, a series of unallotments and accounting gimmicks in the last session.

The 2012-13 deficit is estimated at anywhere from $3 billion to $7 billion, and there won’t be $2.6 billion in stimulus funds to ease the pain. Many believe that the state has maxed out its flexibility on accounting shifts and that next legislative session many of the programs that Pawlenty unalloted will have to be at least partially restored.

The point? This St. Paul summit was not about how to increase the “social welfare state.” It was about how the state can increase productivity, cut costs and still provide services to an ever-aging population at a time when revenues will continue to lag.

But that growing deficit problem may be the least of Minnesota’s problems. The bigger problem may be how Minnesotans can find leaders who will make the hard decisions that lie ahead.

Arne Carlson
Arne Carlson

“Let me be blunt,” said Carlson. (There was laughter in the room, since bluntness is a Carlson trademark.) “To some extent, we have been practicing the politics of avoidance.”

That likely won’t end any time soon.  Many of the key leaders gathered in both St. Paul and Eden Prairie have their eyes on higher offices. Pols with visions of higher office don’t usually tell people things they don’t want to hear.

The people with lofty ambitions at the St. Paul meeting included House Speaker Margaret Anderson Kelliher, who wants to be governor, and Sen. Tarryl Clark, who wants to go to Congress.

In Eden Prairie, Pawlenty looked and sounded more and more like a man with his eyes on the White House than on Minnesota. He’s off on a campaign trip to Virginia Thursday to campaign on behalf of Republican gubernatorial candidate Robert McDonnell.

Hordes of other state senators and representatives also are either in — or about to enter — the gubernatorial race.

Public interest vs. personal political interest
Can people with big personal ambitions put Minnesota first?

Former DFL House Speaker Dee Long doesn’t think so.

“If you’re running for higher office, are you going to tell people that you need to raise their taxes?” Long said.

Quie spoke of how, in difficult times, political leaders always face a huge dilemma.

Al Quie
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Al Quie

“What’s good for the state,” he said, “may conflict with what’s good for self.”

If the big race in Minnesota is between state interest and self-interest, Tuesday’s dueling events showed that self-interest is in the lead. Nothing showed that more than Pawlenty’s absence from the Capitol, said Jennings, who currently is superintendent of schools in Chaska.

“The Legislature and the governor have the right to disagree, but they have to communicate,” said Jennings. “This breakdown of communications is destructive. It’s not good for Minnesota. That he’s not here today is a very serious problem. If they [the governor and legislative leaders] can’t fix that [relationship], we’re kidding ourselves about being able to communicate the size of the problem with the public. … That he’s not here is emblematic of where we are. It’s sad he wasn’t here. I’m not angry, just sad.”

Others, too, were bemoaning Pawlenty’s absence until former DFL House speaker and former U.S. Rep. Martin Olav Sabo cleared his gravelly voice.

“It’s not about the governor being here,” said Sabo. “It’s about the immense problem in 2011, not who or who isn’t here.”

But one more time. Why wasn’t Pawlenty at the summit?

Asked that question Tuesday, he used the same retort that he used when he initially scoffed at the idea of the summit weeks ago. There already was a summit, Pawlenty said. “The legislative session.” He said that Tuesday’s summit in St. Paul was essentially a DFL production “to admire the problems, not create solutions.”

Pawlenty, GOP pooh-pooh bleak assessments
Pawlenty pooh-poohs the statistics that Stinson and Gillaspy are using to underscore the breadth of Minnesota’s demographic and fiscal challenges.

“These forecasts bounce around,” said Pawlenty, brushing off the work of  the state’s longtime advisers.

Tom Stinson
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Tom Stinson

Republicans simply don’t buy Stinson’s charts that show Minnesota can’t economically grow out of the deficit.

“Let businesss flourish,”said Senjem at the Eden Prairie meeting. “Taxes and regulations are counterproductive.”

Added Zellars, “We’re going to the job providers to find out what they need. Business runs our country.”

Back at the St. Paul meeting, though, the views were broader. The former leaders struggled with current leaders over how to make Minnesotans understand the depth of the state’s economic problems and other pressing issues. Everything from achievement gaps in education to the extremely high cost of caring for the elderly in their final months of life was on the table.

Former Gov. Wendell Anderson offered one policy suggestion: raising taxes on cigarettes to the higher levels they have in Wisconsin. On a lighter note, the former DFL governor also cracked that he was among the few who didn’t regret that Gov. Pawlenty wasn’t on hand. “I played hockey against him. I’m glad he wasn’t here.”

Quie — remember, he’s a conservative Republican — seemed to endorse the need to deal with complicated end-of-life issues. The former governor talked of how his church recently acquired a defibrillator.

“I wanted them to put a sign on it that said, ‘If Al passes out during service, don’t revive,’ ” he said. “I can’t think of a better way to go. … The issue [expensive care for the very old] needs to be talked about. Where’s our moral boundary?”

Quie also put forward one of the few suggestions on how DFL legislative leaders might be able to make progress with Pawlenty in budget talks.  He suggested that DFLers give Pawlenty the corporate tax cuts that Republicans always want in exchange for expanding the sales tax to clothes and services.

Carlson also came up with an idea for getting all parties and all leaders involved. He suggested that all four legislative caucuses and the governor each come up with a proposal and take those plans to the people. Let the next election be based on “substance and not just politics.”

“Each plan will inflict pain,” Carlson said. “But evasion is not leadership.”

But evasion is what we have. At this point, our leaders can’t even agree to meet in the same city.

Doug Grow writes about public affairs, state politics and other topics. He can be reached at dgrow [at] minnpost [dot] com.

Comments (14)

  1. Submitted by Greg Kapphahn on 09/09/2009 - 11:06 am.

    Minnesota has a long-standing tradition of responsible business leaders who care about their workers, their workers’ children, and the well being of the state in general, realizing that the prosperity of their businesses and the state and local infrastructure upon which each and every one of their businesses and even they and their loved ones depend, are completely and irrevocably bound to each other.

    Unfortunately Gov. Pawlenty doesn’t talk to those business leaders, nor do they dominate at the Minnesota Chamber of Commerce. Gov. Pawlenty, his friends, and the Chamber all seem to share a selfish, self-serving vision which has already taken us a long way down in both economic prosperity and quality of life. They clearly will not be satisfied until Minnesota has become the new Mississippi, where people such as themselves are fabulously prosperous, the rest of us live in poverty and blame each other, ourselves, and the state government for our misfortune.

    The lingering question for me is, how long will we allow them to call forth our own childish selfishness, then use it to bring out the worst in us in order to manipulate us into padding their already-overflowing pockets while impoverishing ourselves and our friends and neighbors? Aren’t we smarter, healthier, and more functional than this?

    Will the business leaders who know better ever stand up to challenge their peers? Will they ever open their mouths to educate us as to what REALLY works, or will they just rest on their own wealth and let their peers destroy the state which many of them worked so hard to build?

  2. Submitted by Jeremy Powers on 09/09/2009 - 11:51 am.

    The Republicans weren’t meeting. They were hiding.

  3. Submitted by Pat McGee on 09/09/2009 - 11:54 am.

    Doug=-Thank you for this and special thanks for the links to the presentations. Too bad our Governor’s approach is to hide his head in the clouds and prefer not to be confused with facts.

  4. Submitted by Ginny Martin on 09/09/2009 - 12:20 pm.

    If he just hid, that would be preferable to him lashing out like a vicious wounded animal, refusing to even meet with the others who are trying to solve some problems by facing them (not admiring them, as he said) and figuring out some long-term answers
    I can’t see how he can think of running for president on such a hateful, vicious, uncooperative stance.

  5. Submitted by Nick Coleman on 09/09/2009 - 12:57 pm.

    FYI: Jennings was a GOP state representative, not a senator. He was House Speaker during the mid-1980s.

  6. Submitted by Charlie Quimby on 09/09/2009 - 02:52 pm.

    I recall a Pawlenty quote, which I can’t locate right now, about the tax cuts he helped push through when he was in the legislature. He admitted he thought the Minnesota economy would grow sufficiently to replace the lost revenues after the cuts were made.

    That didn’t happen then, it’s unlikely to happen in the future, and Pawlenty is smart enough to recognize that. He has to ignore the forecasts of the state’s experts because they contradict the assumptions that underpin his career ambitions.

  7. Submitted by dan buechler on 09/09/2009 - 03:19 pm.

    Good article and some great quotes coming from good leaders who have held a variety of positions. Some of the quoted bluntness was very very refreshing give us more.

  8. Submitted by Bernice Vetsch on 09/09/2009 - 03:56 pm.

    “Taxes and regulations are counterproductive.” I wouldn’t say that exactly. They gave us Enron, the housing price bubble, the immoral/illegal bad loans that the whole world is now paying for. Et cetera.

    I have been hearing recently about groups of what are often called “real” Republicans or Eisenhower Republicans who are beginning to unite in opposition of the current right-wing meanness that has taken over their party. Rah rah rah!!

    Perhaps they represent hope for a return to a moderate conservative policy that doesn’t think cutting off health care and other desperately needed help for the poor or severely cutting aid to cities and towns was, as Pawlenty’s said, was making the state “better off” than when he first took office.

    Then the two parties really could work together.

  9. Submitted by Thomas Swift on 09/09/2009 - 04:04 pm.

    “Minnesota can’t cut its way out of its budget problems, (PPT) said Stinson.”

    Minnesota government grew it’s way into this budget problem, to suggest we can’t get out of it the same way is ridiculous on it’s face.

    The Democrat party convened a pity party for state government; the adults met a few miles away to discuss specifics.

    At the Eden Prairie meeting with business leaders, Gov. Pawlenty disclosed that government spending has increased an average of 19% per year since 1960.

    That is insane, but for anyone to suggest that the solution is to wring out additional taxes to sustain that rate of spending increases is even crazier.
    Let me put it into terms some of you might understand.

    The left’s rhetoric is all about “sustainable living” these days; the rate at which we are growing government is unsustainable.

  10. Submitted by dan buechler on 09/09/2009 - 04:32 pm.

    #6 I distinctly recall hearing that quote also perhaps in an interview on MPR or Almanac. talking about MPR they recently had a roundtable with a number of physicians and statisticians and it was stated that Minnesota is the #1 or #2 nation/state worldwide in health/wellbeing. Would be interesting to time travel forward 10 years and see if that stat holds up.

  11. Submitted by Charlie Quimby on 09/09/2009 - 07:47 pm.

    I haven’t seen the source of Pawlenty’s 19% annual growth figure, but it strikes me as a manufactured number that may not take into account:
    • population and cost of living growth
    • shifts from local to state budgets (as the agreement to fund education at the state level)
    • that in 1960 Minnesota’s per capita income was 5% below the national average — during the cost growth period, it rose to 5% above the average.

    There’s reason the governor doesn’t use his department’s numbers, and it’s not because he’s better at math.

  12. Submitted by karl karlson on 09/09/2009 - 10:28 pm.

    With all the budget problems coming our way (re above article), no wonder Pawlenty has chickened out of trying for another term.

  13. Submitted by Richard Schulze on 09/09/2009 - 10:29 pm.

    “Minnesota’s corporate income tax would be repealed and its sales tax expanded to clothing and most services under a proposal by a tax reform commission appointed by Gov. Tim Pawlenty — who reacted coolly to the sales tax suggestion.”

    “The Governor’s 21st Century Tax Reform Commission also recommended increasing the cigarette excise tax by as much as $1 per pack to help replace the lost corporate tax revenue.”

    I believe that a DFL panel came to a similar judgment about the corporate tax rate last February as well. Seems to me that this is one common area of interest that could be furthered along.

    Perhaps the next Governor can move this concept into fruition. Then they can look at some of the more questionable tax breaks and decide whether they should be removed. Sin taxes are a no brainer. Helps to recover all the external costs that liquor and tobacco cost the state in medical and law enforcement expenditures.

  14. Submitted by Harris Goldstein on 09/11/2009 - 07:49 pm.

    Unfortunately for Minnesota, Governor Pawlenty is playing to an ideologically narrow but geographically broad constituency. He’s running in the “pre-primaries” and Minnesota is the loser.

    But in a broader sense, why is it that it’s the former politicians – both left and right – who are so reasonable? They haven’t lost their philosophical bearings; they just show more maturity and recognize that solutions are rarely found in the extremes.

    Can we enact a law that only former politicians can run for office (tongue in cheek)? Granted we will run out of them in a few years but think how much progress can be made until then.

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