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Similar substance but vastly different styles forTom Emmer and Marty Seifert

Rep. Tom Emmer
MinnPost photo by Terry Gydesen
Rep. Tom Emmer: former hockey player from Edina and a hard skater.

The race for gubernatorial endorsement between Reps. Marty Seifert and Tom Emmer will end up being less about the candidates and more about the mood of the 2,018 delegates coming to the Republican Party’s state convention.

If they’re of a mind to turn this convention into a “we’re mad as hell and we’re not going to take it anymore’’ Tea Party, the 49-year-old Emmer likely will prevail. If it’s a more traditional Republican Party, the advantage likely slides to Seifert, at 38 the youngest candidate of either party throughout this long campaign.

In terms of substance, there’s little difference between Emmer and Seifert. (Of course, the same could be said of the DFL candidates for governor at last week’s convention and the upcoming primary.)

Similar stands on GOP issues
Both GOP candidates believe in less government, lower taxes, freedom of the marketplace and oppose such “job killers” as cap-and-trade. Both stood up and cheered the highly controversial Arizona immigration bill during a debate Wednesday on Minnesota Public Radio. (“A wonderful first step, said Emmer.)

On social issues, the two also are an echo: opposed to abortion and to any hint of gay marriage.

But when it comes to style, the differences are huge.

Emmer is raw meat. Seifert is cooked medium rare.

Emmer is “NO!!!” Seifert is “no.”

Emmer is a hockey defenseman, looking for someone to check into the boards. Seifert is shiftier, a center iceman perhaps.

Emmer is a purist. He’s proud of the fact — as are his supporters — that he’s often one of a handful of Republicans who will vote “no’’ on a bipartisan bill that may maintain something unsavory to conservatives. Seifert, a student of government, points out that governing is not all give and take. Sometimes you have to give a little to gain a lot.

Strong impression that camps don’t like each other
Their style differences have created a strong impression that these two guys don’t like each other and that the dislike has carried over to their supporters. At one debate, for example, Emmer supporters accused Seifert supporters of dumping Emmer’s literature into urinals, which is pretty powerful symbolism.

The Emmer crowd believes that Seifert “will do anything” to get the endorsement. They point to the Seifert campaign releasing a letter from a supporter last week, bringing up 20- and 30-year old DWIs Emmer received. That part of Emmer’s past previously had been reported, but the Seifert campaign defends releasing the letter, saying delegates deserve to know.

Meantime, the Seifert campaign consistently makes veiled references to Emmer’s temper. For example, when Senate Minority Leader Dave Senjem endorsed Seifert, he praised Seifert’s “temperament.’’ That was seen by the Emmer supporters as a back-handed slam at Emmer.

Certainly, that’s been an issue for the old hockey player, even among members of his own caucus. After one particularly feisty caucus session, Rep. Jim Abeler of Anoka, wrote a letter to his caucus saying that Emmer has “unresolved anger issues.’’

Rep. Laura Brod, who once was considered a potential gubernatorial candidate herself, says that Emmer’s bluster/temper should be a non-issue.

Early in this process, Seifert asked Brod to be his running mate. She not only turned him down but endorsed Emmer.

“There will be no Mike Hatch moments in this campaign,’’ Brod said, referring to Hatch losing his temper, and perhaps the governor’s race, in the final hours of the 2006 campaign.

Rep. Marty Seifert
MinnPost photo by Terry Gydesen
Rep. Marty Seifert: former high school teacher from western Minnesota.

Brod insists that Emmer turned up his bluster to support Seifert, when Seifert became House minority leader for the 2007 session and named Emmer, who’d want the leadership position, to serve as his whip. In the “good guy, tough guy’’ world of politics, Emmer often played the tough guy role, Brod said, to help Seifert hold the caucus together.

Where they came from
Both candidates have reasonably compelling come-from-political-nowhere stories to tell.

Seifert, a former high school teacher and later admissions counselor at Southwest State, was just 24 when he was elected to the House by the people in and around Marshall. He likes to portray himself as an underdog, a Catholic in a Lutheran state, a rural Minnesotan in a state more and more dominated by the population mass of the Twin Cities suburbs.

“Just a guy from way out in western Minnesota,” he says.

He started gaining statewide attention clear back in 1997, when he was the first to introduce legislation to toss the Profile of Learning, which was supposed to be the silver bullet to all K-12 education woes but quickly was seen as a program only a bureaucrat could love.

Emmer, on the other hand, grew up in Edina and was a good enough hockey player to have once played at a fairly high level of junior hockey. (No record of how much time he spent in the penalty box.)  He’s still a hockey coach, and he and his wife have seven kids, all of whom are skaters on rinks in and around Delano.

He claims that he never intended to be in the position he’s in when he showed up as a freshman legislator in 2004. But now that he’s just one step away from being the Republican Party’s endorsed candidate, he’s convinced that most Minnesotans share the positions he holds so dear.

Neither, by the way, thinks the media understand them.

Meantime, outside the convention hall, there are some Republicans hoping that the Seifert-Emmer showdown is a stalement, thus opening the way to a primary race that would bring new players into the game. Names such as Jim Ramstad, Steve Sviggum and even Norm Coleman are whispered, but only wistfully.

Doug Grow writes about public affairs, state politics and other topics. He can be reached at dgrow [at] minnpost [dot] com.

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Comments (6)

  1. Submitted by Greg Kapphahn on 04/29/2010 - 10:19 am.

    Reminds me of the auction animals that have been shown by 4H kids at county fairs each year… animals in competition to see who will bring the highest price before they’re slaughtered.

  2. Submitted by Joseph Fleischman on 04/29/2010 - 11:48 am.

    Emmer is scary. On MPR’s Midday on 4/28, he said the “only thing government does is perpetuate poverty.” That statement, after many months of campaigning to refine presentations, is worthy of Glenn Beck or other Fox news hosts but not of a candidate for Minnesota’s governor. Check it out. He said it. The context does not modify it in any way.

  3. Submitted by Erik Esse on 04/29/2010 - 12:08 pm.

    The media doesn’t understand them? Are they really going to play the Jesse Ventura/Sarah Palin victim card? I hope not. Self-pity isn’t helpful in an office-holder.

  4. Submitted by Bill Coleman on 04/29/2010 - 12:13 pm.

    I had to chuckle today when Norm Coleman and Vin Weber positioned both candidates as center-right. If Emmer is center-right, who in Minnesota is far-right?

  5. Submitted by James Hamilton on 04/29/2010 - 02:27 pm.

    In light of Mr. Seifert’s recent resurrection of Mr. Emmer’s 1991 DUI conviction, I took a look at the state district court records for both at http://pa.courts.state.mn.us/default.aspx

    Two comments on the results:

    Mr. Emmer has campaigned, in part, on his claim that he was the only Republican candidate who has actually had to meet payroll for his employees. Based on my search results, it appears Mr. Emmer has had some problems meeting his mortgage obligations, as recently as 2006.

    http://pa.courts.state.mn.us/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=1610636636

    It happens to the best of us, but it’s hardly an endorsement of his fiscal abilities.

    As for Mr. Seifert, his biggest error of record appears to be a speeding ticket (80 in a 65) in 2002, while Minority Leader, for which he paid a fine of $25.

    http://pa.courts.state.mn.us/CaseSearchResults.aspx?SearchLinkIndex=1

    (No, I’m not a DFLer out to cause mischief; I’m aligned with neither party. Whether I’m out to cause mischief is up to you.)

  6. Submitted by John Jordan on 04/29/2010 - 03:45 pm.

    I think it’s kind of funny to consider Emmer a “purist” when he’s considered a pro-choicer as running mate. If anything that demonstrates a willingness to compromise principles just to win. It might be good politics but it’s sure not the definition of a “purist”.

    And he does have anger issues. Worse, put an angry Emmer up against a DFL majority in both houses and you think you have gridlock now? Just wait.

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