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Same-sex marriage: ‘Minnesota, in particular … is proof the tide has turned’

MinnPost photo by Terry Gydesen
State Sen. Scott Dibble, far left, and state Sen. John Marty, far right, celebrating on election night.

In the final moments of Tuesday night’s vote-no rallies at St. Paul’s River Centre, state Sen. John Marty stood, neat as a pin and looking a little verklempt, at one side of the stage where the campaign to defeat a proposed constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage would soon announce victory.

Ever impervious to jokes about his wide-eyed idealism, the Roseville DFLer began introducing legislation to allow gay marriage back in 2008, when his chances of success were right up there with moon colonization. Was Marty, along with the hundreds in attendance at the Minnesotans United for All Families event, literally watching the tide turn?

History did unfurl as the night progressed. Before Minnesotans defeated a constitutional amendment on gay-marriage, voters in Maine, Maryland and Washington approved referenda legalizing same-sex unions. Iowa retained a state Supreme Court judge who ruled in favor of marriage equality, and Barack Obama name-checked LGBT families in his re-election victory speech.

It’s inarguable that 2012 and 2013 will turn out to be watershed years in the push for same-sex marriage. The U.S. Supreme Court is likely to hear at least one case on the issue in early 2013. And with DFLers in control of the Minnesota House of Representatives, Senate and governor’s office next year, Marty stands his best chance yet.

Strategy, precedent — and time

Why? A combination of strategy, legal precedent and — perhaps most important — the passage of evolution-facilitating time.

“Minnesota in particular, even more than the other states, is proof the tide has turned,” said Dale Carpenter, a University of Minnesota law professor and Minnesotans United board member. “We are the most devout of the four. We are in the Midwest, not some liberal, coastal state. We’re blue on many things, but red on many social issues.”

Dale Carpenter
Dale Carpenter

Plus the polls, which historically have underreported support for same-sex marriage, were dead-on, he added, suggesting that marriage-rights advocates can also trust several years of surveys showing a steady swing in popular opinion among most American demographic groups.   

When the federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) was passed in 1996, just 25 percent of Americans believed gays and lesbians should be allowed to marry. Indeed, the late Sen. Paul Wellstone voted in favor of the law, which prohibits same-sex couples from receiving federal benefits and says states do not have to recognize gay marriages performed elsewhere.

A dozen years later, 52 percent of California voters approved Prop 8, a constitutional amendment overturning a court decision legalizing same-sex marriage there. Support for gay and lesbian unions has grown steadily throughout the country since, in part because younger voters are more likely to view gay rights as a non-issue.

Youth ‘played a significant role’

“Just as the youth vote once again helped Obama win, they also played a significant role in these referenda votes,” said Ed Schiappa, chair of the University of Minnesota Communications Department and an expert on messaging and the history of same-sex marriage campaigns.

Ed Schiappa
Ed Schiappa

Opponents still comprise the majority of voters in a number of states, Schiappa cautioned. “Let’s not forget the lopsided North Carolina vote from a few months ago,” he said. “These votes were all in blue states, above the Bible Belt, with good turnout among young people. Hold a vote in Mississippi or Alabama and it would be like voting on interracial marriage in the 1960s.”

In May, North Carolinians voted overwhelmingly to pass a constitutional amendment banning legal recognition of any relationship that was not the marriage of a man and a woman. Possibly in response, days later Obama came out in support of same-sex marriage. His “evolution” is credited with boosting support among undecideds.

The path ahead: legislative or judicial?

So will proponents’ path forward be legislative or judicial — or both? Tuesday’s votes make it slightly less likely that the U.S. Supreme Court will decide it wants the final say on Prop 8, Carpenter opined, adding that because the decision affects 40 million people he thinks the needed four justices will vote to review it.

Right now, that constitutional amendment has been overturned by a federal court of appeals. If the high court does not hear the case, same-sex marriage will again be legal in California and the case will have no impact on the rest of the country. If they do hear it, it’s the “most obvious vehicle” for a legal decision roundly endorsing or rejecting a universal right to marriage, Carpenter said.

Because of the multiple appellate decisions meriting review, the high court will almost certainly hear one or more of the challenges to the federal DOMA, he added. Although a victory for gay-rights supporters there could very likely mean marriage rights would still be a state-by-state proposition.

“I think it’s very hard to say whether and how much [the election] affects the Supreme Court’s decisions,” he said. “Although I do think the outcome makes DOMA look even dumber. It highlights the instability of having a patchwork of marriage recognition around the country.”

If Minnesotans are left to decide the question via their newly reconfigured Legislature, there are definite signs the tide has turned. For starters, noted Schiappa, the arguments that allowing same-sex unions will have negative consequences failed Tuesday.

Voters didn’t buy negative-outcome arguments

“The arguments made by opponents of same-sex marriage this fall — especially close to the election — were precisely the same ones made in state after state before these: Kids will be exposed to homosexuality in school, churches will be threatened, etc.,” he said. “But this time these arguments failed to persuade a majority, suggesting a growing number of voters simply found them unpersuasive or implausible.”

And Minnesotans United played a much better ground game, he said.

“We know that in 2008, California supporters of same-sex marriage relied too much on TV advertising and not enough [on] door knocking and community organizing,” Schiappa added. “It was especially important and noteworthy that advocates involved more religious leaders and churches in support of same-sex marriage, thus allowing people who see themselves as religious to still vote in favor of same-sex marriage.”

Carpenter concurred. “I think we used to lose these elections because there was an intensity gap,” he said. “We never raised $500,000 in this state for anything gay.”

Not only did the vote-no coalition raise some $15 million, it assembled an unprecedented infrastructure. “We created an organized, structured political movement yesterday with a donor list of 65,000-plus names and lots of data about voting in every legislative district in the state,” Carpenter said.

Comments (12)

  1. Submitted by Rich Crose on 11/08/2012 - 11:00 am.

    Don’t over look Facebook

    With all the flaming messages I saw on Facebook about the amendment, its amazing the web didn’t catch on fire.

    Young people were asking each other how to vote and the opinions were flying. People were un-friending people saying, “I can’t be friends with people who think like that!”

    THAT has a lot of power in the peer pressure opinions of youth, but with Facebook, it happens in minutes. These young people went out and voted and sent their preferences to Facebook which pressured other people to head out and vote. Very powerful stuff that the parties will not be able to control.

  2. Submitted by Michele Olson on 11/08/2012 - 01:04 pm.

    Proud of Minnesota

    Watching the tears and joyful disbelief in the “Vote No” crowd Tuesday tonight, my first thought was, what has society done to them, that they can be so overwhelmed by vindication from their fellow citizens? My second thought, tearing up myself, was “Glory, glory, hallelujah!”

  3. Submitted by Richard Pecar on 11/08/2012 - 01:44 pm.

    What happened is the first Amendment withstood an attack…

    When Minnesota voters denied passage of the so-called “marriage amendment” to the Minnesota Constitution, these voters likewise upheld the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

    Government, federal, state or local cannot tell our churches which people they may marry and which people they cannot marry.

    It seems like there two distinct groups of humans that believe God powerless to get His Will Done without their help: The republicans and the radical Muslims. The God I know doesn’t need help, He asks that I judge not and forgive transgressions.

  4. Submitted by Kurt Anderson on 11/08/2012 - 06:06 pm.

    Fairness is a two-way street

    First of all, congratulations to MN Families United, its volunteers, and other organizations and individuals who kept this wart off the face of our state constitution. Like many others, I spent Wednesday basking in the glow of a vindicated confidence (x2!!) in the fairness and wisdom of Minnesota voters. Now for some nuance …

    My lawn sign said, “Another Catholic Voting No,” which is how I voted. I also made some (reluctant) news with an ethics challenge to the Archbishop’s 2010 DVD mailing.

    However, compare Minnesota’s 51 percent anti-amendment vote with California’s 52 percent pro-amendment vote (a 3-point difference), and draw a lesson. Other than the passage of time the difference is that so far, the Minnesota courts have not taken it upon themselves to shove gay marriage down our throats. If they had, gay marriage skeptics like myself may have decided that one outrage deserves another, and voted yes instead of no. Fairness tipped the balance in favor of keeping the discussion open, and a court preemption of the issue would be as unfair as an amendment.

    The widest possible body of discernment on sensitive issues like this is in our legislative process. The Minnesota vote should be taken as an opening for gay men and women to come out to their home towns and neigborhoods, persuading the people they grew up with that gay marriage is a good idea.

    • Submitted by John Ellenbecker on 11/09/2012 - 11:39 am.

      Shoved down your throat?

      When any court enforces the US Constitution – the 14th amendment to be specific – they aren’t shoving anything down your throat.

  5. Submitted by Jason Whitlock on 11/08/2012 - 03:17 pm.

    Oh, so this is what the Sign Stealing Side Says?

    Ho Ho, look at the Gloating, Same Sex Marriage is still Illegal in Minnesota and will stay that way. I hope no one forgets there is one side, the Corrupt marriage side, that vandalized, stole signs. Let’s not forget this, it is the Corrupt Marriage side that should be shamed of themselves as well as having a campaign funded by out of state money and being millions more.

    • Submitted by Diane Nelson on 11/08/2012 - 05:56 pm.

      Thanks MinnPost

      For taking down the post we were replying to. It must have slipped the filter.

    • Submitted by S G on 11/27/2012 - 09:57 am.

      Well, since you brought it up…

      Do at least try to check your facts before posting. Ninety-two percent of MN United’s money came from within the state, whereas the biggest chunks of the money on the amendment’s side came from the so-called National Organization for Marriage (42%!) and the Catholic Church, which are based, respectively, in Washington D.C. and in Rome.

      And almost everyone I know with a VOTE NO sign had theirs vandalized at least once.

  6. Submitted by William Pappas on 11/08/2012 - 09:17 pm.

    the end of God/Guns/Gays?

    The tide has turned and it will never return. Same sex marriage is inevitable and the right wing will never be able to use it again as a wedge and turnout issue. Could this be the end of their BS Gods/Guns/Gays strategy? We can only hope they turn to issues more appropriate for government and allow the rest of us the full array of human rights and happiness.

  7. Submitted by Diane Nelson on 11/08/2012 - 04:18 pm.

    Throttle it down

    Or take your venom elsewhere. This is no place for that kind of hatefulness.

  8. Submitted by Walt Cygan on 11/08/2012 - 04:26 pm.

    I thought MinnPost

    had standards preventing this kind of thing. Sad. My “Vote No” sign was stolen, too. That kind of childish behavior did not only happen on one side of the issue. But seriously, this kind of comment is beyond the pale.

  9. Submitted by Rachel Weisman on 11/08/2012 - 04:54 pm.

    Too far.

    Jason Whitlock’s comment MUST be beyond the acceptable limits for Minnpost. I was enjoying the conversations until this hate speech surfaced. But I am glad to be forewarned that the anti-gay crowd is still there and I will remain vigilant.

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