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There are 11 Republican candidates for governor. Gregg Peppin doesn’t think that’s enough.

Gregg Peppin
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Gregg Peppin’s project is Minnesota's wide-open 2018 governor’s race, the best shot Republicans have at the office in nearly a decade.

Gregg Peppin’s usual meeting spot is a nondescript lounge in a grocery store in Maple Grove. 

It’s much quieter than the bustling, trendy coffee shops in the nearby Twin Cities, and people are less likely to be recognized in the quiet suburb, just 20 minutes north of Minneapolis. Peppin, who’s tall and lean and likes to joke that he started this work when he still had hair, isn’t someone most passersby would know on sight. But they might know the people he’s meeting with: candidates for governor, Congress, or even current leaders in the state Legislature.

In Republican political circles, Peppin has built a career working behind the scenes, recruiting and running GOP candidates. In the late 1990s, he helped the party win the Minnesota House after it had spent more than a decade in the minority. Since then, he’s worked on dozens of Minnesota Republican campaigns, most recently helping recruit the current chair of the Republican Party of Minnesota, Jennifer Carnahan. He even met his wife, Joyce Peppin, the current majority leader of the House of Representatives, when he recruited her as a field staffer for the House campaign committee.

He does his work with an intensity that’s well-known in political circles, even if it’s sometimes made him unpopular with fellow Republicans.

“There are are only a handful of people in the state, or possibly no one in the state, with his level of experience,” said Jeff Johnson, whom Peppin helped during his 2014 campaign for governor. “He is intense and he is emotional, but the strength of the relationships he forms you just don’t see a lot, especially with intense people. He inspires a lot of loyalty.”

These days, Peppin’s project is Minnesota's wide-open 2018 governor’s race, the best shot Republicans have at the office in nearly a decade. Though there are already 11 people running for governor on the Republican side, Peppin has traveled the state trying to recruit more people to run for the job.

It’s an approach that’s rubbed foes, and even some friends, the wrong way over the years, Peppin admits. But he’s a firm believer that Republicans, more than anyone, should be open to a little friendly competition. Or as he likes to say: “Steel sharpens steel. If there are multiple candidates in there, everybody is going to get better.” 

From ‘wonk’ to campaigner

Growing up in Golden Valley, the closest Peppin got to the world of politics was an “Archie Bunker for President” T-shirt he wore around the neighborhood with a childhood friend. His parents weren’t particularly political, and Peppin’s father imagined he would go into the business world.

Peppin went off to the University of Minnesota for college and was drawn to history and political science, but he was also spending a lot of his time working at a Lund’s grocery store, where he was making good money as a manager. He briefly considered dropping out of college and continuing at the grocery store, but when he finished his degree he was lucky enough to land a job in the Minnesota House of Representatives as a researcher in 1988. Peppin had to cover a lot of areas of policy, researching things like labor management, pensions and commerce. He loved the job, describing himself as a “policy wonk.” 

Back then, Republicans were in the minority — and had been for years. “I would go to committees and I would have all these policy ideas, but if you’re in the minority it didn’t matter because none of it was going to get adopted,” he said. “I realized we needed to try and win the majority.”

House Majority Leader Joyce Peppin
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House Majority Leader Joyce Peppin

He would spend his weekends and evenings volunteering to knock on doors for Republican legislative candidates. His first campaign was for Denny Newinski, running for a seat in Maplewood. Newinski was running against an entrenched Democratic incumbent, and most Republicans didn’t see a path to victory — but Peppin did. Newinski had a blue-collar background that fit the district, and he could see how the candidate was connecting with voters when he went door-knocking.

“His district was on my way home from work, so I would stop by and knock on doors,” Peppin said. “I told the caucus, ‘I’ve been helping this guy and I think he has a chance to win.’”

Newinski ultimately did win the seat, and Peppin moved into regular campaign work, taking election years off from his researcher job to work at the House Republican Campaign Committee. 

It was in that role that he traveled the state with then-Rep. Steve Sviggum to meet with prospective candidates for the Legislature. “We would get in the car and we would drive after work to go someplace and recruit a candidate,” Peppin said. “It was just tons of windshield time.”

Peppin knew a few qualities made a good recruit: a hard worker, a strong communicator with a clear vision and ability to raise money. But through his travels with Sviggum, he also learned that what made a good candidate in one part of the state didn’t necessarily transfer to another region.

“We used to joke and we would go to places and the people in Greater Minnesota would say, ‘Well, it’s different out here,’ ” Peppin said. “I didn’t get that at first. I thought you could just take the candidate that could win in Maple Grove and he or she would also do well in somewhere like Roseau, but that’s just not true. They’ve got to fit the district.” 

With the candidates recruited by Sviggum and Peppin, Republicans picked up more than a dozen seats in the 1994 midterm election. Then, in 1998, they captured the majority, the first time Republicans had controlled the House in 12 years. With his party now in power, Peppin got to take the lead on certain policy issues like redistricting, while still continuing to take off election years to work on campaigns. 

It was during one of those campaigns when he met Ben Golnik, who was new to the state in the mid-2000s, working as the executive director of the Republican Party of Minnesota. Now executive director of the House Republican caucus, Golnik says he learned a lot from Peppin on how to recruit the right candidates for legislative seats. 

“He and I did a number of recruiting trips together,” says Golnik. “We would go to different chambers of commerce and ask if they had any candidates to run, and they would tell us to look into the general manager at the local Coborn’s store, so we would look into the person at Coborn’s,” Golnik said. “He knew where to look and he knew which issues and which qualities play in different parts of the state.”

In 2006, Democrats managed to take back the House from Republicans. At the time, Peppin's wife, Joyce, was a rising star in the Legislature herself, representing the Maple Grove area. They had two daughters at home and it no longer made sense for both of them to be stuck in St. Paul until the early hours of the morning during the session.

Ben Golnik
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Ben Golnik

So in 2008, Peppin made the decision to leave the Capitol and start a company, P2B Strategies, a consulting firm for Republican candidates that also did issue advocacy at the Capitol. In that role, he was able to touch back to some of his early work on policy issues, but he couldn’t stay away from recruiting and working for Republican candidates. His business worked with the fledgling campaigns for plenty of legislators since then, including newcomer Reps. Regina Barr and Sandy Layman. He also worked with Jim Hagedorn, a Republican who has challenged U.S. Rep. Tim Walz twice and is running again this cycle. 

He also met with Carnahan, a Republican candidate for a tough Minneapolis Senate district who was frustrated with a lack of help some candidates got from the party. She floated the idea of running for party chair, and Peppin told her to file the idea away. A year later, the newcomer to Republican politics would surprise everyone and win the race for party chair against longtime party veterans. 

“I encouraged her and said this was going to be an uphill climb, but she’s incredibly smart and a different face and a different voice for the party,” Peppin said. “I just saw all of the talents and traits of someone who, if delegates would get to know that person, would really make some headway.” 

A ‘multiplicity’ of candidates

When Peppin meets with a candidate he likes, he makes sure they know right off the bat that he’s probably meeting with others. “I say, ‘There’s my number to call me, but if somebody else comes along, I’m going to talk to them too,’ ” Peppin said. “I want you to know that we’re Republicans and we believe in competition and the best candidate will rise to the top. My phone number is here, as it will be for everybody else.”

It’s part of Peppin's long-held political philosophy of the “multiplicity of candidates,” or the idea that having more candidates in the competition will make everyone better. He not only believes having competition will sharpen debate skills and messaging, but it will better a candidate’s fundraising game. He’s also tried to recruit more diversity into the Republican Party, which has never backed a woman in the race for governor.

“The activists and the delegates are discerning enough to determine who’s good, who’s worthy of that, and we should give them options,” Peppin said. “That has caused some heartburn in some of the recruiting that I would do for the Legislature.”

Looking 'to be that middle person'

The first word most use to describe Peppin is “intense,” the second is “serious.”

“He’s hard-charging; he likes to win,” Golnik said. 

Johnson, who is running for governor again this cycle, said people have strong feelings about Peppin “because he’s an intense guy.”

“But the one thing I noticed is his relationships with the candidates and potential candidates are really strong relationships,” Johnson added. “He’s really a relationship guy. There are a lot of candidates that he’s recruited and helped over the years who are very loyal to him and just think really highly of him.” 

As part of his efforts to find a candidate for next year’s race for governor, Peppin’s already traveled the state to meet with prospective Republican candidates — and he’s been shot down a few times. But he expects he’ll be involved in a campaign when it gets down to the Republican endorsing convention for governor next in June.

Peppin wants to work in a Republican gubernatorial administration. In particular, he thinks he can use those relationships he’s formed over the years to try to bridge a deep divide that’s formed between the executive and legislative branch. Gov. Mark Dayton and the Legislature are currently in the midst of a months-long legal battle over Dayton’s move to veto funding for the House and Senate.

When he was a young legislative staffer, Peppin met former Gov. Arne Carlson, who was making the rounds and visiting researchers and other staffers around the Capitol. That made a huge impression on him — he still cherishes a photo he has from the meeting.

Then-legislative staffer Gregg Peppin, right, meeting then-Gov. Arne Carlson
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Then-legislative staffer Gregg Peppin, right, meeting then-Gov. Arne Carlson in a photo from 1991.

“If there would be one small part I could play in addressing the extreme partisanship and sometimes the gridlock, it would be just having the legislative experience to talk to Democrats and talk to Republicans and be that middle person,” he said. “If I were to work in an administration, that would be a value that I could bring, trying to explain the governor’s positions and sell them to the Legislature.” 

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Winnowing

The real question is, which of the candidates does Russia support?

Tim Waltz

Tim Waltz

Conservatives seem to have a lot of difficulty

with self-awareness.

"If there would be one small part I could play in addressing the extreme partisanship and sometimes the gridlock..."

After reading the article I would say Peppin has already addressed extreme partisanship and gridlock by recruiting those most responsible for it. I heard/saw the same thing with his recruit Carnahan earlier this year when a Republican party leader posted racist images and content about Keith Ellison on Facebook. In an interview she complained about online insults she was receiving while at the same time insulting Democrats by using Democrat Party rather than the proper Democratic Party. When the interviewer called her on it she feigned ignorance.

Conservatives are just funny that way, they claim to be the party of personal responsibility, but never take responsibility for their actions.

Just funny that way

Amen to Henk Tobias. Self-awareness, or a certain tone-deafness at the very least, seems to be a common characteristic of many people these days, both Democrats and Republicans, but it seems most pronounced among those who like to call themselves "conservative." I've met Ms. Carnahan, and even swapped a few emails with her when she was running for the state senate in my district. She struck me at the time as more of a pro-business Democrat than a Republican, someone not likely to be welcomed with open arms by Minnesota Republicans nowadays. We'll see how her term as state party chair plays out…

I'd say Mr. Peppin has already done more than his share to "address" extreme partisanship, given his role in helping the Republican-controlled House to once again try gerrymandering legislative districts. It's worth noting that the "deep divide" between executive and legislative branches, at least currently, is largely due to Republican efforts to defund the Department of Revenue, thus eliminating that part of state government that controls Minnesota's fiscal affairs. Personally, I think Dayton has played into their childish game with his "defund the legislature" move, but he didn't start the game, and in the current ethical vacuum that characterizes Republican politics, nationally and locally, simply acquiescing couldn't be seriously contemplated. How much does Mr. Peppin have to do with that vacuum, given his "behind the scenes" role?

Similar to Ray

"Peppin met former Gov. Arne Carlson"

As a well respected standing Republican governor, Arnie was not endorsed for re-election by his own party, Arnie, goes on to win the Governorship, Arne Carlson 1,094,165, John Marty 589,344, My suspicion, he was way to left than and probably worse by today's republican standards, curious what Mr. Peppin would think!

Steel sharpens steel

This is an Old Testament saying that should really be stated as iron sharpens iron and man sharpens man. How did his theory of flooding the candidate field work out during the presidential election? 16 candidates and the sharpest one won? Really? The GOP needs a grindstone to remove all the burrs and hacks on their steel. They are so cruel they attack the poor and disabled with dull blades!

I don't know about sharpest

but Trump embodies the current state of the corrupt Republican party far better than any of those other yahoos who ran in 2016. He's not afraid to say in public what they all say privately. From his degrading comments about women to his support for the Alt-Right Neo Nazis, and all the other isms in between, he's a prime example of where corrupt Republicans are today.

Why does he want more?

There are about three serious people running for the GOP nomination (four if Osmek counts). No one will know who chris chamberlain is come primary vote time.

Peppin article

There are no candidates announced so far that can win the governors race. Keep looking Greg, you'll find someone I hope. The present field of candidates will push hard for the endorsement with their conservative message, which is fine but they lock up those that vote republican no matter what. If they then good go out and try to reach the independents, moderate republicans and even a few democrats maybe, but they never do. They continue to pound on issues that don't resonate strongly or even moderatly with the general swing voters. I'll give those candidates 43 percent tops.

Hey Gregg sweet 'stache.

Hey Gregg sweet 'stache.