Senate Majority Leader Paul Gazelka
Senate Majority Leader Paul Gazelka: “Absolutely it’s my job to try to influence [Commissioner Laura Bishop] into a direction that we think needs to get done for the good of Minnesota.” Credit: MinnPost file photo by Peter Callaghan

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In the fall of 2020, Laura Bishop, then commissioner of the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency, got an unusual voicemail.

Senate Majority Leader Paul Gazelka, a Republican from East Gull Lake, had called her to urge the approval of a key water-quality permit for Enbridge Energy’s planned Line 3 oil pipeline. For years, the 337-mile pipeline across northern Minnesota has been one of the state’s most controversial environmental issues, and Enbridge needed what’s known as a 401 certification before construction could begin.

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Listen: Gazelka’s voicemail to Bishop

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“I just can’t stress enough how important it is that you do your job with these and that the permits get issued,” Gazelka told Bishop.

To the majority leader, the call was an example of respectful advocacy on behalf of those who support Line 3. To Bishop, however, the voicemail was an unwelcome political intrusion: a threat from one of the state’s most powerful lawmakers to remove her from office if an environmental review based on science and law halted the pipeline project.

The MPCA ultimately granted Enbridge’s permit in November of 2020, a decision Bishop stands by and said wasn’t influenced by Gazelka. But earlier this month, Bishop resigned rather than face a Senate confirmation vote, a move that sparked debate over whether Republicans were conducting proper oversight or politicizing a scientific agency in their scrutiny of the MPCA.

Either way, the voicemail, released by the MPCA, is an unusual window into the acrimonious relationship between Senate Republicans and the agency, as well as behind-the-scenes machinations at the Minnesota Capitol.

Voicemail came after firings, job review

Bishop was appointed by Walz in January of 2019 after working at Best Buy, most recently as the company’s top sustainability officer, overseeing issues like environmental compliance and recycling initiatives.

As head of the MPCA, Bishop handled many controversial environmental issues, such as defending in court permits for PolyMet Mining’s copper-nickel mine and implementing tougher water pollution regulations for Minnesota’s largest animal feedlots.

The former commissioner drew sharp criticism from the GOP in 2019 when she announced plans to adopt “Clean Cars Minnesota” — new auto emissions standards that would require vehicle manufacturers to provide more electric cars for sale in the state. The regulations, which match ones in California, did not need legislative approval, but Republicans opposed to the idea said Bishop should work with the Legislature anyway on a matter of such public interest.

[image_caption]Former Commissioner Nancy Leppink[/image_caption]
In August of 2020, Republicans hinted they might remove Bishop from her post, holding a performance review in an environmental committee soon after the Senate GOP had voted against confirming Nancy Leppink as commissioner of the Department of Labor and Industries. The Minnesota Senate has power to approve or deny commissioners appointed by a governor, but lawmakers often wait for years without voting on confirmations. Sometimes they hold agency leaders in limbo to retain leverage and influence over a governor’s policy.

Though Bishop never came up for a vote in 2020, Republicans did remove another commissioner: Steve Kelley, who was leading the Department of Commerce.

When Kelley was ousted, the MPCA was considering Enbridge’s 401 certification and planned to make a decision on the Line 3 permit before a federal deadline in November.

The 401 certification was arguably the most important permit issued to Enbridge by the MPCA, and also likely the most scrutinized. The agency received more than 10,000 comments during a comment period in the spring of 2020 — 10 times the number fielded for the 401 permit issued to PolyMet for its controversial mine plan near Hoyt Lakes.

Commissioner Steve Kelley
[image_caption]Former Commissioner Steve Kelley[/image_caption]
The 401 certification is meant to ensure construction projects don’t violate water quality standards that safeguard drinking water, habitat and recreation. It’s also one of a handful of state-issued permits tied to federal law. In this case, the 401 certification stems from the Clean Water Act, which regulates pollution in waters of the United States such as the many lakes and rivers Line 3 would cross or run near.

Bishop did not give an exact date for when Gazelka left the voicemail, but said it was after her performance review, after Kelley and Leppink were removed, and days before the MPCA approved the Line 3 permit in November of 2020.

“Hey Laura, it’s Paul Gazelka,” the Republican said. “I’m just calling about the Line 3 water quality permits. This is a big deal to our caucus and I know that you have to make the decision in November. And I just can’t stress enough how important it is that you do your job with these and that the permits get issued. So that’s what I’m calling about. I appreciate your time, you have a good day.”

Call was not a threat, Gazelka says

In an interview Friday, Gazelka said he doesn’t regularly call commissioners, but usually relies on chairs of legislative committees who have more specialized expertise to work closely with an agency head. But Gazelka said Line 3 was a project “we thought should be done a while ago” and something he felt the governor was delaying. That led him to get personally involved.

“Absolutely it’s my job to try to influence her into a direction that we think needs to get done for the good of Minnesota,” Gazelka said, adding lots of people who support and oppose Line 3 were making their views on permitting known. “For me to be silent, to me, would be derelict of my responsibility to speak for what I think a lot of people in Minnesota think should happen.”

Bishop resigned on July 6, after Republicans signaled they planned to oust her, largely for not dropping or delaying the Clean Cars rules. (The regulations were formally adopted Monday.) After announcing she would leave, Bishop told Minnesota Public Radio that some calls and voicemails from Gazelka were a form of “political intimidation” and “very unsettling.” When asked for copies of the messages, the MPCA sent the Line 3 voicemail.

Bishop declined to comment further after releasing the voicemail, except to say she believes the Line 3 permit met agency standards and was issued based on merit, not political pressure. Still, she said shortly after the MPR interview that she felt Republicans had been holding the confirmation process over her head for years and were politicizing agency work that was supposed to be based on law and science.

Gazelka said the call was respectful and said he wasn’t suggesting the Senate would fire Bishop if she didn’t approve a critical Line 3 permit. “You can’t read a threat into that,” he said.

Enbridge spokeswoman Juli Kellner emphasized in a statement that Line 3 “has had strong bipartisan support all through the review and construction process.”

Why the permit in question is ‘relevant’

Gazelka’s attempt to influence the 401 certification was also noteworthy to Bishop because, unlike most state environmental policy debates, the Line 3 permit is part of a review program required by federal law.

The Clean Water Act gives states like Minnesota power to evaluate projects for a 401 certification to make sure they don’t violate local water quality standards required by the federal law. State lawmakers have less power over a review process under the state’s Clean Water Act authority.

Former Minnesota Pollution Control Agency Commissioner Laura Bishop
[image_credit]MinnPost photo by Walker Orenstein[/image_credit][image_caption]Commissioner Laura Bishop resigned on July 6, after Republicans signaled they planned to oust her, largely for not dropping or delaying the Clean Cars rules.[/image_caption]
John Linc Stine, a former MPCA commissioner appointed by then-Gov. Mark Dayton in 2012, said the state is “an agent of the federal government” when working on 401 certifications and other issues tied to administration of the Clean Water Act. Lawmakers have ways to offer their opinions — there is a public comment period on the 401 certification, for instance — but Stine said there is “strict guidance on how we perform our duties and we have to be mindful of (federal) oversight.”

Before he worked at the MPCA, Stine served under Republican Gov. Tim Pawlenty at the Department of Natural Resources, which has no federally delegated permits, and at the Department of Health, which does. “One of the things I learned quickly when I joined the health department was that this delegated program responsibility makes for a lot of complexity and difference as compared to programs that the state solely operates,” Stine said.

Once the state approved the 401 certification for Line 3, it was sent to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for scrutiny as part of a broader federal permit. That permit, known as a Section 404 permit, was granted by the feds in November of 2020, though it has faced legal challenges. Construction on Line 3 is now more than 70 percent complete.

John Linc Stine
[image_credit]MinnPost photo by Walker Orenstein[/image_credit][image_caption]John Linc Stine[/image_caption]
Stine, now executive director of the clean water advocacy nonprofit Freshwater, said “those kind of phone calls and voicemails and conversations” with state lawmakers happened somewhat regularly during his time in state agencies and aren’t necessarily inappropriate. “Most of the time I would say legislators were very good at exerting their influence in a way that was clear, understandable and yet didn’t go across the line,” Stine said.

But Stine said he was confirmed early in his tenure. That meant there was no tension over being removed. Stine also said it is “notable” that such a call to Bishop came from Gazelka as majority leader, and the fact that the voicemail was about a 401 certification “is relevant,” too. Gazelka never had any similar interactions with him, Stine said.

“In public they’re very measured, I would say,” Stine said generally of legislators. “Never in doubt where people were coming from, but the direct statements of influence like that would be kept to private conversations normally. Phone messages … phone calls, hallway conversations, the one-on-one meetings I’d have with legislators, or even groups of legislators — that’s where you’d hear things like that. They’d rarely go to the point of saying ‘I need you to’ or ‘I want you to.’ They know there’s a line in there of trying to ethically command your decision.”

Gazelka said he doesn’t look at the “style of permit,” only “where I can influence the direction we should go.”

For instance, he and other lawmakers successfully pushed to relax MPCA feedlot regulations in a way that troubled agency leaders who said the changes may run afoul of federal regulators. The tweak in state law says if the Environmental Protection Agency doesn’t like Minnesota’s alterations, the permit conditions would revert back to where they were before lawmakers intervened.

“I don’t really care where the permit is coming from,” Gazelka said. “I just want to make sure the people who have a voice in the matter hear from us. And again it’s always going to be respectful but it is going to be advocating for the things that we believe in.”

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  1. Gazelka claims his phone call wasn’t a threat. Trump claims his Jan 6th-led insurrection, sedition, coup attempt, treason was a lovely touristy thing…despite million$ in damage, 5 deaths and shock throughout the country. These REPS really think all the rest of us are absolutely mindless imbeciles. And with their almost 400 new state voter suppression laws they’re also doing everything they can think of to keep us all from voting and replacing them. Push hard for HR1 becoming federal law soon so our country finally has federal protection of our collective voting rights and for our cherished democracy…or their forced slide into fascism will become swift and permanent!

  2. Oh, that’s rich – that Paul Gazelka, of all underachieving sticks in the mud in terms of getting Minnesota into the 21st century, would advise a very capable commissioner like Laura Bishop – who was doing her job quite well, thank you very much – as to what her job is while so completely failing to do his…that is really something.

    And the fact that he feels no shame or embarrassment at coming up so thoroughly empty-handed in terms of earning his taxpayer-paid income as a so-called “representative’ (representative of what, I shudder to think) is all the more indicative of how utterly irrelevant he is.

    Of course he’s a bully. How did Minnesota benefit from his mistreatment of Bishop?

    Go home, dude. Maybe consider actually working for a living.

    1. Yes, the MN GOP is a living recreation of the Do Nothing Party.

      Actually, that’s a bit unfair. They’ve done a lot of whining over the past two years.

    2. She’s done her job? Really? Is there an environmentally destructive permit that she did not issue? That institution is a fine example of regulatory capture.

  3. Noooo, no threats by Gazelka. “I just can’t stress how important it is that you do your job…..and that the permits get issued.”. Oh by the way, “have a good day.”
    Gazelka isn’t smart enough to sit down with the commissioner and discuss the pros and cons of line 3 so he defaults to the tactics that his cult leader used throughout his 4 disastrous years as faux president.

  4. This is rich. Former MPCA Commissioner Stine is saying the state is “an agent of the federal government” and there is “strict guidance on how we perform our duties and we have to be mindful of (federal) oversight.” This is the same Stine that called the EPA and asked them not to submit written criticism of the PolyMet Mine project but to explain them in a private phone instead (so said criticisms wouldn’t be on the public record)?

    The MPCA’s mission is “to protect and improve the environment and human health” and it’s regularly made decisions that contradict its mission: Line 3, PolyMet, MinnTac … The agency’s idea of “protecting” the environment seems to be like some quack doctor who mistakenly amputates one hand and then claims to have protected the patient because he didn’t cut off both hands.

  5. It would be interesting to get a comment from Arne Carlson on this. Isn’t he writing a book about undue influence?

  6. The Gazelka email to former Commissioner Bishop is really over the top. He, actually, is over the top. Yet he insists he is capable and ready…but should he? omg. This guy is so out of field. It’s like he takes his politics from Trump and McConnell and anyone else on the fringe. Minnesota, we can do sooooo much better than Gazelka. We’ve done this for centuries and decades and months and days. We can do it again. No to Gazelka.

  7. His job is to represent the interests of his district. If the people in his district want Line 3 to be built to make the transferring of crude oil across the state safer, why shouldn’t he call her to give his constituents opinion? Is she not a public servant?

    Plus, you can’t form any thoughts without brining up Trump. Move on already.

    1. Well old psychopath Trump does dictate & drive all REP behaviours now. They have given complete fealty to this old con, grifter and common criminal with no conscience and no soul. He has wreaked more damage in 4 years than anyone else in the history of the country, all while shamelessly bilking his equally delusional base. And if he keeps even a toe hold, he will continue to be cruel and divisive and obstructive and spew his lies and bs…and insist they all do so as well. Who follows someone so evil & twisted??? America cannot afford to allow this one minute longer. He and his lackeys keep us all mired in a constantly dragging downwards and massively expensive quagmire by convincing half the country not to get vaccinated against Covid. Yet he himself & his family members all are! He drive the insurrection Jan 6th, then slunk back to the safety if the WH and refused to xall out the Natl Guard. He watched it all on the, chirtling w glee. He wanted blood & bodies. This old fool lives to mess w others. He gets off on it. It makes him gleeful. His relatives remember him being a major bully already at age 5! His parents shipped him off to boarding school by age 8! He blew thru about $438M of Daddy’s $$$ quickly and has declared bankruptcy 7 times! (He admits to 4 cuz he lumps some together.) The old boy ain’t bright or good with $$$. Being manipulative does not equate with being intelligent. He’s been taking others down with him all of his life. It’s what he does. So until he’s locked up or dead, he cannot be dismissed or ugnored. He’s too much of a danger to us all. Finally understand this, everyone.

    2. Given Don Trump is the odds on favorite to win the GQP nomination in 2024, the suggestion that progressives are obsessed with him is hilarious.

    3. Won’t the pipeline cross other districts? Maybe they don’t want it. And maybe some people in his district don’t want it either. Will there be eminent domain? Isn’t that socialist? See how well it worked in Wisconsin with FauxCon.

  8. From top to bottom Republicanism is all about intimidation and bullying. From the Armed mob that stormed our Capital on January 6th to “innocent” phone calls like Gazelka’s and everything in between they are all about Bullying. Its all they’ve got.

  9. Did she save all voicemails? I would like to review them. Or did she only save the political enemy voicemails.

    1. And violent crime is up significantly, so is everything else. If you continue to blame every ill of the world on Trump you are completely delusional. The Liberal mantra is to blame everybody else for everything.

      1. Honestly, RW, it is difficult to recall a POTUS that blamed, displaced, distracted, fabricated and rationalized more than trump, so if you can find one write back. It would be kind of you also to elaborate on what such an assessment has to do with being a liberal, although I suspect you were just using the term as a pejorative.

        1. I am not a fan of Trump at all. But my point is that all the ills of the world cannot be blamed on him. It seems that is the automatic response to everything that happens from day to day.

  10. Gazelka’s admission that he doesn’t look at “style of permit” is yet one more example of his incompetence to serve as a legislator, let alone be considered a viable candidate for governor. Please, Minnesota, elect people who are actually capable of understanding the job they are supposed to do.

    1. I am sure your current gov, geography teacher, knows the difference between a corps 401 and 404 permit? Nope I didn’t think so. Why would you want a gov who is into the details that much? Waste of brain cells.

  11. If you’re old enough, you remember the Clean Water Act, and have seen the improvements it made. Acid rain, among other phenomena caused by pollution, was one. Setting effluent standards improved wastewater treatment all over the country. Point source polluters were subjected to penalties.

    Minnesota still has legal responsibility to uphold and abide by the provisions in the Act, despite the Trump moves to neuter enforcement.

  12. What’s funny is that Gazelka thinks he understands the nature of Bishop’s job and think’s he needs to tell her to do it. The voicemail clearly reveals considerable ignorance regarding the nature of government and executive action. The fact that Gazelka is a “top” Republican simply confirms that these guys have no idea what governance is about.

    Telling anyone to: “do their job” is never a friendly reminder, so Gazelka’s denial is disingenuous on the face of it. Beyond that… the idea that you can intimidate a political appointee is simply ridiculous and the fact that Gazelka doesn’t know that is disqualifies him as a responsible legislator. Look: Someone like Bishop will just go back to the private sector and make more money… you think that’s a “threat”? Obviously Gazelka thinks Bishop and other are only doing their jobs when they do what Gazelka tells them to do and that’s all kinds of wrong in soooo many ways. How does Gazelka not know that these people serve at the pleasure of the Governor, not the legislature? Does somebody need to show these guys some kind of organizational flow chart? Whatever.

  13. What I want to know is what happens if Walz just reappoints someone after the legislature “fires” them? Sure they can fire them again, but as long we’re in a pissing contest why not just keep putting them back in after they fired? Dollars to donuts some Republican will do it in the future when Democrats take out Republican appointees.

  14. Speaking as a professional woman, the voice mail seems polite, matter of fact and fairly benign IF the 3 words “do your job’ had been left out. Those three words change the whole meaning of the conversation and steers it toward contempt.

    1. Although the message maybe out of context without their prior conversations, this one sided dialog seems to be a disappointing reflection of character in his communication with a peer. Better word choices could have been made.

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