America has pulled back from the brink of denying science in education. About 30,000 students in Florida were set to lose out this fall because Advanced Placement psychology classes were “effectively banned” due to a state prohibition against discussing certain gender and sexuality topics in high schools; fortunately, the state education department reversed course at the last minute in a game of Public Relations Chicken.
The College Board, which administers the AP classes, had planned to remove the course, arguing that obeying the state’s “Don’t Say Gay” law would weaken it.
We have to place facts, history and science at the heart of our education systems.
The College Board was right to insist on maintaining its standards, and yet the cost to students could have been extremely high. AP Psychology is a popular course, and rigorous AP classes help prepare students for college and demonstrate their skills for college admissions.
As the leader of an organization for women’s political empowerment, I am keenly aware how this latest spat — on the heels of the Supreme Court’s recent affirmative action decision — could serve to shrink the pool of young women who get to college and thus deal another blow to the political talent pipeline.
The study of psychology is particularly important in this regard because it is a field led by women. I majored in psychology before forging a political career. Excluding tens of thousands of Florida students from this subject and opportunity could have stifled them.
The ins-and-outs of all this warrant explanation. Last year, Florida lawmakers outlawed instruction on sexual orientation and gender identity. The initial ban was on instruction through third grade; that’s the “Don’t Say Gay” law. This spring, they expanded the ban through 12th grade. (I took AP Psychology as a 16-year-old, in 10th grade, and it changed my life.)
The AP Psychology course has a unit that includes definitions of gender, sexuality, gender roles and stereotypes and discusses socialization factors. Dropping such instruction from the course would mean that AP Psychology wouldn’t be “AP,” the College Board said. It stood firm in defense of the unit.
Florida’s state board of education then accused the College Board of “playing games with Florida students.” But it’s the state board that was asking teachers to ignore a key part of basic psychology.
Eventually, Florida’s education commissioner backed down, writing a letter to school district superintendents saying that the state believed the AP Psychology course could be taught “in its entirety.”
It’s still unclear how that fits with the state’s “Don’t Say Gay” law. The College Board issued a statement responding to the state’s new guidance with a mixture of optimism and skepticism, noting: “We hope now that Florida teachers will be able to teach the full course, including content on gender and sexual orientation, without fear of punishment in the upcoming school year.”
My own AP Psychology class in Contra Costa County, California, paved the way for my career in which I encourage young women to run for office. I was one of the youngest students in the class, and we learned everything about human behavior.
There should be nothing partisan about teaching young people the truth
I’m still connected with my AP Psychology teacher, Jacki Della Rosa Carron, and she remains one of my favorite humans. She shaped my entire understanding of how I wanted to live and work.
My high school, like so many public schools today, offered very few AP classes. Jackie’s class was special. She helped me understand how to channel anger and prompted me to ask questions like, “How do you impact the world at a larger scale?” Focusing on psychology and later pursuing my master’s in social work helped me kickstart my career, impact my community and teach young women how to do the same through political leadership.
Jackie also covered sexuality in the course. In conservative Contra Costa, I remember conversations about being gay. For many students this was their first opportunity to really think about gender and identity. This was controversial for some, but gay people are a part of American history and life, and California is where Harvey Milk did his activism.
You can’t teach psychology without covering gender and sexuality, and you can’t teach American history without covering racism.
The most infuriating thing about these latest attacks on education is that young women, especially young women of color, along with young queer and gay people, are the ones who are seeing themselves erased and further marginalized.
The timing couldn’t be worse; the mental health crisis among teen girls is very real.
The AP Psychology situation has created confusion and frustration for many students, teachers and parents. Some school districts decided to drop the course altogether. Others are still looking for alternative options or waiting for more guidance.
Meantime, we should commend the College Board for standing up for the integrity of the course. We should highlight the importance of psychology and AP classes. And we should continue to advocate for academic freedom and the teaching of facts.
It is remarkable that to say so in America in 2023 is to risk sounding partisan. There should be nothing partisan about teaching young people the truth.
If a firestorm like this can erupt in Florida, it can catch light across the country. The stakes are too high for it to be ignored. We should learn valuable lessons from the risks exposed.
Sara Guillermo is chief executive of IGNITE, a young women’s political empowerment organization.
This commentary originally appeared in The Hechinger Report.
Science, reading and math are under attack if you analyze the science behind the current test scores.
As is reading comprehension, apparently.
19 public schools had zero students show basic competency of 8th grade reading. Math competency is worse.
25% of college applicants in Minnesota require remedial coursework on basics like math and reading before moving on to college level courses.
But sure…let’s get into the nuances of gender identification.
What’s funny about this talking point is that the majority of those 19 schools were charter schools. But in all seriousness, this talking point is stupid and ignores all context around the testing of proficiency. That won’t stop conservatives from trotting it out though!
Context? The context is 16 year old kids can’t read grade 5 primers, or solve grade 8 math problems.
How you like that context?
I’d expect nothing less from you, and definitely nothing more! I realize it is much easier to parrot talking points from the Center for the American Experiment that to actually engage in critical thinking.
Nineteen Minnesota schools had zero students perform at grade level in math, and the results were largely split between the Minneapolis Public School District (MPS) and Saint Paul Public Schools (SPPS). The two districts accounted for 10 of the schools altogether, and elementary schools appeared to fare the worst.
Seven elementary schools between both MPS and SPPS saw no fifth graders demonstrating math proficiency.
Please provide the context you think excuses this. Or dispute it outright, if you can. Start here:
https://public.education.mn.gov/MDEAnalytics/DataTopic.jsp?TOPICID=1
Let’s start with the easy one: What year is this data from? Have the scores improved since then? If so, wouldn’t that suggest there is something else at play here? Like say, a global pandemic?? CAE has a narrative to push, so they don’t spend any time discussing how this context affects these things.
Here are some more questions to consider to better appreciate the context: How is proficiency tested? Why were these schools chosen and not others? How does the spending per student affect their likely demonstrated proficiency? Are language barriers something to consider? How many students have disabilities that affect their learning or ability to complete a proficiency test? What are the student’s situations outside of school? I could keep going, but I think you get the point.
BTW, the schools listed are 90% Twin Cities Public Schools.
What a lazy response. How about adding some value to the conversation or including some nuance instead of parroting right-wing drivel? Did they teach critical thinking wherever you presumably attended school?
Thank you for the deep dive analysis into those test scores which I’m sure you did instead of getting your thoughts from the likes of Tucker. I’m sure a deep thinker like you will provide a plethora of insights.
Science? You mean some people are having conniption fits because schools are providing accurate information about global warming, or teaching about evolution?
Reading? Foisting bowdlerized texts on students because we don’t want them thinking unacceptable thoughts?
Math? Have you heard of the Biblically-inspired zealots who oppose teaching set theory or relativity?
How about the general attacks on public education as an institution that call into question one of the best means for social, economic, and political progress in the country? Are those okay?
I knew the anti-science, trickle down establishment education mob would chime in.
Another lengthy, elaborately reasoned, and carefully thought-out reply.
Can you please just give us the shorter, more concise version?
Having taught both psychology and history in a career that spanned 30 years in public high schools, ending in 1996, I can only wholeheartedly agree with the headline.
I like the article, but as usual something catches my eye. “There should be nothing partisan about teaching young people the truth” the point is “should be nothing” but in today’s political climate, all truths are political, science is political, the words spoken are political, to put it bluntly, the “R” party has become the Animal Farm, Orwell 1984 party, the only truths from their perspective is the BS that they spew in order to support all the other BS they have been spewing! From the “R” point of view, the Climate science is wrong, the political science is wrong, the economics are wrong, the bureaucracy is wrong, the courts are wrong, the majority of Americans are wrong, the Doctors nurses and scientists are wrong, because it doesn’t align with their perspective on the world! Yeah 2+ 2 = what ever the “R” folks want it to, because that is their “truth”!
The Right wants to cancel history, sociology, and psychology, and the Left wants to cancel math (because its “too difficult” and everyone “deserves” a degree).
I have never heard anyone suggest that math be “canceled.” Please provide an example, or I will conclude that you just made it up because “both sides must be doing it.”
Math is racist: How data is driving inequality
“It’s no surprise that inequality in the U.S. is on the rise. But what you might not know is that math is partly to blame. In a new book, “Weapons of Math Destruction,” Cathy O’Neil details all the ways that math is essentially being used for evil.
https://money.cnn.com/2016/09/06/technology/weapons-of-math-destruction/index.html
First, I’ve read “Weapons of Math Destruction.” Your characterization of that book is very, very wrong, something you would know if you had read it instead of relying on what someone else said about it.
Second, referring to socially-based biases in data analytics is not “canceling math,” it is bringing a problem to the attention of the public (or, that part of the public not too lazy or uncurious to read and understand the argument).
Third, this is not being taught to schoolchildren, any more than CRT is finding its way to elementary schools.
Although they do not explicitly say “cancel”, there are many on the left that wish to completely tear math up by the roots, shake it out and come up with a new, politically modified version that creates a new paradigm for what mathematic mastery means.
Although I aver we still have as much to learn as we know today, physics as we understand it, works everywhere in the known universe. 2+2=4, for everyone.
Here’s a sample that includes a boatload of the twaddle being promoted in what passes for academic circles these days….gave me a headache, but maybe it will help you with your cognitive dissonance.
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/04/racist-math-education/524199/
“Although they do not explicitly say ‘cancel, . . .”
Then your comment has nothing to do with my remark, does it?
I hardly think looking at new approaches to teaching mathematics that take into account racial considerations is “twaddle,” let alone “completely tear[ing] math up by the roots.” Yes, as a rule, 2+2=4 (although a mathematician could easily posit a situation in which it doesn’t). How we present it to students, however, can and should change. Perhaps in your day, writing your sums on a slate was adequate, but not anymore.
I gather that your definition of “twaddle” is either “something that doesn’t reinforce the cultural or political hegemony of straight white men who affect Christianity,” or “something my favorite agitprop outlet tells me I don’t like.” While that may suffice for making noise, it certainly does not count as a reasoned argument.
Well my significant left leaning retired math teacher sister would suggest you have significant problems with your equation!
“My high school, like so many public schools today, offered very few AP classes. Jackie’s class was special.”
This lady is spinning the biggest yarn. I did some research. I looked up High School (San Luis Obispo). They offer AP Classes in multiple subjects Computer Science, Math, Spanish, Statistics. That calls into her entire woe be gone spiel. You can look it up at https://slohs.slcusd.org/departments/mathematics
Then i looked up her organization. IGNITE. Ms Guillermo gets paid $128,000 to be a professional activist. Her organization bring in $2,470,153 , the executives pay themselves $236,128, other staff is paid $1,454,914.
The amount they spend on Programs that they run is $226,109. That would be less than 10 percent of their fund raising!
https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/383819049
“The amount they spend on Programs that they run is $226,109. That would be less than 10 percent of their fund raising!”
Um, you’re reading that wrong. That’s the REVENUE that they get from programming, not expenditures. Feel free to look at how other non-profits are run. Like this one, which I’m a member of and is well regarded: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/520948513
You’ll note that they list NO expenditures on programming, but almost $4 million in income from programming. They also show that their only major expenses are *gasp* wages and compensation. You know what those wages and compensation pay for??? People who do work that results in programming.
“This lady is spinning the biggest yarn. I did some research. I looked up High School (San Luis Obispo). They offer AP Classes in multiple subjects Computer Science, Math, Spanish, Statistics. That calls into her entire woe be gone spiel. You can look it up at https://slohs.slcusd.org/departments/mathematics”
Your research is lacking. A lot. A little bit of digging showed that it’s unlikely she graduated from San Luis Obispo HS (I won’t name the school because you can look it up yourself and I don’t need to make it easy for you to be throwing mud at someone). San Luis Obispo is the college that the AP professor got her BA, not where Ms. Guillermo went to school. In any case, what do the AP classes available today have to do with when she graduated (which, based on my research, was more than 20 years ago)? As far as I can tell, the high school she graduated from didn’t have a website as far back as when she graduated. The Wayback Machine shows the first capture in 2012. At that time, there was no information on their site about AP classes (let alone demographics) at all. And between the time she graduated and the time they had a website that was captured, the school had become a charter. So…who knows if any of the information on the site in 2012 is relevant to when she graduated. 20+ years ago, when I graduated HS, my HS didn’t have ANY AP classes. Now it does, thanks to the internet. You are making the claim that she’s fabricating her experience, yet you have provided no basis by which to make that claim. The best you can do is say that there is no proof of her claims, but there is also no evidence that what she says is untrue. Definitely no evidence of yarn, Mr. Maddali. Given how much you brag about your success, I wonder at how you managed. Basic research, basic logic, basic analysis…you missed the boat on all of them here. Maybe you should have started with your research rather than your opinion.
This is a response to Ms. Kahlers prior post buried above. I post my response her to highlight her supposed research
“Basic research, basic logic, basic analysis…you missed the boat on all of them here. Maybe you should have started with your research rather than your opinion.”
Give me the honor of analyzing Ms Kahler “superior” analysis. Of course since i’m not part of the elite in this society i will always be the looser.
1) “You’ll note that they list NO expenditures on programming, but almost $4 million in income from programming” – False. The filing points to Total Revenue $2,701,637. That’s not $4 million
2) Compare Ms Guillermo’s Charities to the “well regarded” 501 3c pointed to by Ms Kahler.
– The “well regarded” org points to $0 in contributions and 95 percent of income in Program Services
– Ms Guillermo’s organization points to $ 2.4 million in contributions and $ 226,100.
3) Now consider Ms Kahlers statement “They also show that their only major expenses are *gasp* wages and compensation. You know what those wages and compensation pay for??? People who do work that results in programming. ”
Ms Guillermo’s organization spent about $1.7 million in salaries to fetch $226,109 in programming. That’s a negative return Ms Kahler. They did not earn the millions from programming that you claim.
Your research is not lacking. Its just plain wrong.
She didn’t go to high school at San Luis Obispo HS and she graduated 20+ years ago. Your data is irrelevant and analysis is off the mark, and you are calling someone a liar based on wrong information. You are computer and internet literate. I’m not going to hand you everything.
Revenue is not expenditure. Those are 2 different things. You are calling a nonprofit a fraud despite misinterpreting the data. I showed you another nonprofit that has expenditures that pretty much only include executive and staff pay. I could show you lots of them. But you are computer and internet literate. I’m not going to hand you everything.
My understanding is that teaching about slavery is okay, but it can’t be taught in such a way that causes negative feelings about a country that allowed it, even provided for it in the constitution. Hence the search for a bright side to slavery.
False. Uber, uber liberals like Ms Guillermo want to convert opinion into fact. Nobody objects to teaching American history and all its warts (slavery etc). What the Ms Guillermo crowd wants to do is inject today’s buzz words like equity, systemic discrimination as fact.
Systemic discrimination is an opinion. Not a fact. What people like her want to do is teach it as fact. And of course brand any one who objects as haters and racists.
It would appear that your opinion: “Systemic discrimination is an opinion. Not a fact” is not well supported, it appears based on the search that it, is an opinion and not a fact! What next, White Nationalism is an opinion?
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Systemic+discrimination+
“Nobody objects to teaching American history and all its warts (slavery etc)” Really? Guess Florida is a “nobody”
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Florida+on+slavery+
Dennis, find me a Florida text book that omits any of those topics. You’re entitled to view todays America in any lens you chooses but don’t force that on others
You did not address the volumes of discussion shown that indicate a Florida government concentrated effort to change history. Talk about indoctrination! Or is your point open minded educators are all corrupt and should be replaced with closed minded MAGA folks? Your point about no systemic racism is pure BS, next you will tell us the court cases were black voters are being minimized by “R” controlled gerrymandered states is just a coincidence? Dude, you need to get a grip, we aren’t MAGA heads that will drink the kool-aide just because you put it out here! As noted above you do know what that word systemic actually means don’t you?
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/08/1181002182/supreme-court-voting-rights
Again Dennis, you’re most welcome to show me a Florida text book that omits slavery. I take no side, but i do distinguish between what is opinion and what is fact. Dennis not all of us want to drink the Kool Aid you’re serving.
So now you point me to a gerrymandered district. Oh gosh systematic discrimination !!!!! The Horror !!!! But wait Democrats do gerrymandering too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.vox.com/22961590/redistricting-gerrymandering-house-2022-midterms
So, that Supreme court ruling said nothing to you did it? Here you go, hard to prove what isn’t in the text book anymore now isn’t it. Like I said, you should have taken some of those liberal arts classes like reasoning, logic, you are a lost boy. In case you don’t know what it means below it means the books have been censored, you know what the word censored means?
“The Florida Department of Education on Tuesday released the initial list of social studies textbooks it approved — and rejected — for the upcoming school year, including approving a book where the publisher removed references to racism, police brutality and the murder of George Floyd. The list, which school districts use to buy textbooks for classrooms, drew criticism from some School Board members and public school reading advocates who argued the effort could have significant ramifications moving forward. “Florida has five of the top 10 school districts in the country,” said Stephana Farrell, the director of research and insight at Florida Freedom to Read Project. What happens in Florida — and the adjustments large textbook companies make at the state’s request – could have impacts on what’s adopted in other states, too.”
Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/education/article275218011.html#storylink=cpy
What next?
Dennis, you still haven’t shown me a Florida textbook that omits slavery. Quit ranting.
“Slavery etc”? The fact that you just handwave America’s history of discrimination with “slavery etc” shows that you either don’t have a full understanding of America’s racist history or are choosing to ignore it. This leaves out Reconstruction, Jim Crow, Redlining, the Civil Rights March, all the way up to George Floyd and contemporary issues with our deeply racist systems. And that’s just for African Americans! There is also America’s history of racism towards Indigenous, Hispanic, and Asian populations, as well, that can still be seen in American systems today. Systemic discrimination IS a fact.
Which part of that “etc” ie “ Reconstruction, Jim Crow, Redlining, the Civil Rights March” is being objected to.
Also which part of American Indian and Chinese history is being objected to.
The fact that you sidestep my primary premise that the objections are primary to opinions like “systemic discrimination” being taught as fact speaks volumes
Systemic discrimination is not history. It’s todays politics. That shows that the Uber Uber left is just as guilty in inventing history as the far right wing
I didn’t sidestep your primary premise – I am saying you are wrong. Slavery, Jim Crow, Redlining and the rest are what establish and sustain systemic discrimination as we know it. Instead of acknowledging that a history of institutions that exist TO THIS DAY is systemic, you call it an opinion. You are doing exactly what you claim the other side is doing. Or, honestly, you might just not know what systemic racism actually is, so you keep using your own ideology as a touchstone.
“I didn’t sidestep your primary premise ” – You did it, and are still doing it. In my response I asked the below question. And of course you didn’t answer it after claiming i don’t have a full understanding of Americas’ racist history. So i do have an understanding. It’s just i don’t buy into your ideology that America today is a country with systematic discrimination.
This was my question. How come no answer ?
“Which part of that “etc” ie “ Reconstruction, Jim Crow, Redlining, the Civil Rights March” is being objected to. Also which part of American Indian and Chinese history is being objected to.”
There is Jim Crow and Redlining today ? Really ? The suburbs are filled with minority families. My own block is minority majority. If the country is so racist how come there are millions of minorities succeeding in all walks of life. And even running for President ? Do tell me which institutions are so systematic racism. Is our education system so systematic racist. If so how come there are minority groups at the top of the achievement curve. Why ignore such facts ?
Gosh, I thought we were about to have a serious discussion, and then you pull that argument out. Thank you for saving me some time.
Gosh, there’s a pattern to all of your responses. Not just towards questions posited by me. That speaks a lot.
America is filled with so much systematic racism today, that uber uber liberals cannot fathom how minorities are exploding in suburbs, how minority students take up 40 percent of college admissions, how minorities run the top Fortune 500 Corporations.
Perhaps their thought process is on a different plane that the rest of us can’t comprehend.
Sir, the term is “systemic racism.” Not “systematic racism.”
I won’t insult your intelligence by expounding on the enormous difference between the two – although it’s likely the reason why this discussion seems to have turned into an argument.
Just saying.
Mr Gruben, thanks for pointing it out. I meant to type “systemic racism”. And no it would make no difference in this exchange. Cause the moment i point out inconvenient facts about the success of minorities in this supposedly systemically racist countries, the vitriol comes out.
And no, i’m not a Republican.
“There should be nothing partisan about teaching young people the truth”
Beware anyone who claims to own the “truth.”
There is instruction and then there is indoctrination. Nobody wants their kid indoctrinated in anything in the public schools. Mostly they want them to learn how to read, write and do math.
Curious too, that link about mental health crisis among young girls doesn’t have anything to say about social media, but everything to say about gender. Curious too, there didn’t seem to be much of a crisis until the advent of social media and the obsession with gender and race.
While it’s true “there is instruction, and there is indoctrination,” it’s NOT true that the latter automatically happens to the exclusion of the former, as many on the right claim.
That said, however, I taught in public schools for over 30 years, and I came to realize that what many of those people truly resented – though not necessarily expressed in so many words – was that their deeply ingrained bigotry, ignorance, and xenophobia was not being perpetuated in the minds of their children and grandchildren.
Now it would seem the bigotry, ignorance and xenophobia is just being reversed, with a dash of gender ideology. Also, how have reading, writing and math comprehension been doing the last 30+ years?
Of course not a peep about the sham institute that the author runs. The top management pays themselves almost half a million dollars.
Of course it’s in their interest to keep the pot boiling with endless nonsense. It’s a paycheck. A mighty good one.
Sorry forgot all about this one: Way, way off topic, but whatever, it appears your point here is that she is not as good of a grifter as DJT or she is better? This sounds like the MAGA folks Biden investigation, lefties should never have any money, because if they do they got it illegally or corruptly! And how do we know that, just ask those house investigators, there message, it must be illegal, we just can’t find it, lets keep digging and providing innuendo rather than face the truth! And then got DJT with close to 100 felony charges, tax evasion convictions, illegal use of charitable funds and on and on and on and on and of course totally innocent. But back to the point of the article, some of us folks did learn our Psychology, history, philosophy, sociology, critical thinking, math etc. good luck with the gas lighting!
Dennis. Care to dispute a single fact in my investigation. That you won’t. Thank You.
They were just disputed and you ran away! Nice try.
I’m still here Dennis. Still waiting.
Evidently you chose to ignore the article about books being censored in Florida, not un expected, deny reality. Can’t have rational conversations with irrational people.
Care to dispute a single fact in my investigation ? Still waiting.
Dude, respond to the Maimi article, what, it got you by the cajones? As before your bombast bs doesn’t work on educated folks, get s grip dude!
https://www.myjournalcourier.com/opinion/article/commentary-17719627.php#photo-23369846
More yarns from Sara Guillermo. In the above article decrying the ending of affirmative action by the Supreme Court she writes;
“It was a stark realization. Very few of my classmates looked like me. ”
Ms Guillermo attended Univ. Of California Santa Cruz. Whites make up only about 40 percent of the enrollment. Which means its a minority majority campus. But gosh darn Ms. Guillermo had to invent a fable.
Then she invents yet another yarn.
“Now, with the likely end of affirmative action, we’re talking about adding more barriers for young women, especially women of color, to get to college. ”
The problem is affirmative action was for admissions into the top 10 percent of colleges. How about the other 90 percent of colleges. How did the Supreme Court banning affirmative action prevent a minority student from those campuses.
Yes. That’s correct. Another yarn.
So, which minority are you talking about? The math says majority white folks, and what folks could walk up to you and say oh, you are Latino, oh you are Asian, suspect a large portion are mixed, but identify one way or the other. Not to mention, those statistics have probably changed since the author went to school, but of course you don’t grasp, that time gap, it doesn’t seem to fit your BS quotient. Nor does it appear that you have a reasonable understanding about California. You know you should have taken some of those liberal arts classes on Sociology history etc. etc. etc. then you would know these things and quit trying to smear this lady (standard MAGA rhetoric) got nothing just smear them, DJT 101!
“The enrolled student population at University of California-Santa Cruz, both undergraduate and graduate, is 32.3% White, 26.3% Hispanic or Latino, 21.4% Asian, 7.8% Two or More Races, 1.95% Black or African American, 0.136% Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islanders, and 0.0958% American Indian or Alaska Native.”
“No race or ethnic group constitutes a majority of California’s population: 39% of Californians are Latino, 35% are white, 15% are Asian American or Pacific Islander, 5% are Black, 4% are multiracial, and fewer than 1% are Native American or Alaska Natives, according to the 2020 Census.”
No, the math doesn’t say majority white folks. Unless of course your using some new “modern” math!!! 40 percent doesn’t make a majority !!!! What part of the traditional math don’t you grasp !!!
The rest of your statements is as usual, some unrelated nonsense.
Ok, what number is larger than 32.3%? Or is this DJT won the election math?
Perhaps you’re getting a bit into the weeds (intentionally or not). Unless you want to lump all non-white people together, which would be inappropriate, there is no absolute majority. There is a plurality, also known as a “relative majority” of white students. There. Fixed. For reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_(disambiguation)
I wouldn’t get too smug about anything if I were you, either. Between the utter research failure I pointed out above, and the proliferation of exclamation marks, you’re not making a great impression. Certainly, if you and I were in a room and you shouted at me with such contempt, I’d ignore you. That you’re getting any response whatsoever is probably more to do with others’ need to set the record straight than being truly convinced that you deserve a response on any merit. Certainly, you’re not giving anyone else any merit.
Rachel, you’re welcome to ignore me all you want. However, before you comment on my supposed proliferation of exclamation marks, you may want to read the comments directed at me. You know the ones filled with vitriol cause i don’t ascribe to the nonsense and false facts posted. Like “but of course you don’t grasp, that time gap, it doesn’t seem to fit your BS quotient. “. Of course you’ve ignored all that. Am i surprise. Nope.
Moving on. “there is no absolute majority”. So UC Santa Cruz is a diverse campus. Rather than lecture me about “relative majority” why don’t you address the fact that i pointed out the authors falsehood in the statement “It was a stark realization. Very few of my classmates looked like me. ”. Don’t be like everyone else who gets livid at me cause i point out falsehoods. Or would that be against the uber, uber liberal mantras ?!!!
“Between the utter research failure “
Oops Rachel, as I’ve pointed out below you got the programming services income
number wrong by about 3.8 million.
Look before you leap (preach)!!!!!!!!!
How do you say you didn’t read my post without saying you didn’t read my post? Still wrong. I pointed this out with more clarity with an earlier post, but despite not calling names or otherwise being rude or disrespectful (even apologizing that you feel that other people have been rude or disrespectful), it disappeared into the ether.
How do you say dodge without saying dodge. That would be Ms. Kahlers statement of $4 million in revenue which is nowhere to be found in the IRS submission. That Rachel won’t address that speaks of the grand dodge of her own nonsensical analysis.
” but despite not calling names” – go read your post. Again.
The IPO had $3.9 million in revenue, which is near $4 million. But you didn’t read my post. And you’re doubling down on it.
ma·jor·i·ty
/məˈjärədē,məˈjôrədē/
noun
noun: majority; plural noun: majorities
1. the greater number.
Oxford Dictionary
https://www.kare11.com/article/news/education/minnesota-test-scores-down-2022/89-e3dd96ab-0ecd-42c9-9452-e43b5fbd4889
In Minnesota, average eighth-grade math scores fell from 291 in 2019 to 280 this year, one of the largest point declines in the country, and the worst average score for Minnesota in more than three decades (since a 275 average score in 1990).
All due to systemic racism ?!!!
Do i agree with what Florida is doing? Absolutely not. Do i agree with what Ms Guillermo preaches? Absolutely not. Live in the real world and get your kid prepared for real life. In real life there is going to be discrimination. I faced it, my family faced it. But in no way that prevented us from progressing cause we continually accrued preparedness.
If you ascribe to the supposed empowerment garbage spewed by Ms Guillermo your kid is doomed in life. Sure until High School and maybe in College you’ll have a bunch of useless cohorts who’ll spew uber, uber, uber liberal nonsense, all the while your ability to function in a real job tends towards zero.
Oh, and you’re done with High School or College, your kid will be alone in this world , unqualified and jobless. Those other wealthy wokes who protested along with you ? Their parents will take care of their kiddos.
Ask uber, uber woke Nicholas Kristof. He supports Affirmative Action. He was a member of the Harvard Board. Do you think his kids were subject to Affirmative Action quota ?
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/26/opinion/legacy-college-admissions.html
(Conflict alert: I was a member of the Harvard Board of Overseers, and my wife, Sheryl WuDunn, is currently a member and previously served on the Princeton and Cornell boards; our three children also attended Harvard.)
I’m reposting this response here to highlight Ms Kahlers “research”
“Basic research, basic logic, basic analysis…you missed the boat on all of them here. Maybe you should have started with your research rather than your opinion.”
Give me the honor of analyzing Ms Kahler “superior” analysis. Of course since i’m not part of the elite in this society i will always be the looser.
1) “You’ll note that they list NO expenditures on programming, but almost $4 million in income from programming” – False. The filing points to Total Revenue $2,701,637. That’s not $4 million
2) Compare Ms Guillermo’s Charities to the “well regarded” 501 3c pointed to by Ms Kahler.
– The “well regarded” org points to $0 in contributions and 95 percent of income in Program Services
– Ms Guillermo’s organization points to $ 2.4 million in contributions and $ 226,100.
3) Now consider Ms Kahlers statement “They also show that their only major expenses are *gasp* wages and compensation. You know what those wages and compensation pay for??? People who do work that results in programming. ”
Ms Guillermo’s organization spent about $1.7 million in salaries to fetch $226,109 in programming. That’s a negative return Ms Kahler. They did not earn the millions from programming that you claim
Your research is not lacking. Its just plain wrong.
Interesting the last 5 posts it appears you are arguing with yourself, think there is a message there someplace?