Pastor Jerry McAfee speaking at a "Vote Yes" marriage amendment rally in 2012.

Pastor Jerry McAfee long has been a leading Twin Cities civil-rights activist.

So it stunned  many when McAfee, pastor at New Salem Missionary Baptist Church in north Minneapolis, stood last September alongside Catholic Archbishop John Nienstedt and a number of pastors from conservative white churches in support of  the so-called marriage amendment, which would have made same-sex marriage unconstitutional.

Not only did that amendment fail, but in the next few days, Minnesota is expected to become the 12th state making same-sex marriage legal.

McAfee’s opposition to that action has made him a lightning rod in the marriage debate. He has been bombarded with e-mails, charging that he’s homophobic and a fraud in the whole area of civil rights.

Those charges and threats to do economic damage to his church have not exactly brought the pastor to his knees.

“If you want to fight, you better know I don’t preach non-violence,” McAfee said.

 His opposition to same-sex marriage is a complex combination of theology and pragmatic politics.  

‘I preach the Bible’

The theology part is relatively simple.

“I preach the Bible from Genesis to Revelations,” said McAfee, who’s been at that task for 32 years.

In his reading of the Bible, homosexuality is wrong. But no more wrong, McAfee is quick to point out, than a number of other sexual practices.

“I preach against children being born out of wedlock, I preach against adultery, I preach against fornication and I preach against homosexuality,” McAfee said. “All come under the stench of sin. Man is a sinner, the homosexual and the heterosexual. I will never isolate one group of sinners from another.’’

He knows his church is filled, typically to overflowing, with fornicators, adulterers, children born out of wedlock and, yes, even homosexual couples. And all are welcome.

“I’ll treat you right, but I’ll preach the Bible,” he said.

 But isn’t equality a civil right? And if so, shouldn’t the marriage of a gay couple be a right?

 This is where it starts getting more difficult in understanding McAfee.

He doesn’t buy ‘civil rights’ comparison

 “Definitely not,’’ said McAfee when asked if marriage should be a civil right. “When they [members of the LGBT community] get hanged in the numbers that we have, get burned in the numbers that we have, get red-lined the way we still do, then, come and talk to me.

“When they want, they can live together. My people couldn’t. They can congregate. My people couldn’t — and, in some cases, still can’t.  Have you ever heard of being stopped for driving while gay? Being stopped for driving because you’re black happens all the time. Anybody who tries to equate the two [race and sexual orientation] is a dunce and needs a lobotomy.’’

 Of course, those in the LGBT community can tell horror stories of what happened to those who cohabited or congregated.

“They should have protections, live as they want to live,” said McAfee. “But to call me homophobic because I preach the Bible, that’s simply wrong. Do you hear anyone calling me adulterer-phobic or fornicator-phobic? Of course not, but I preach against those, too.”

He believes laws could have been written to grant some aspects of protection to gays, for example, guaranteed visitation rights at times of illness.  But marriage, he said, is a step too far.

“It’s biblical and you cannot preach around it,” he said.

 Move on to the politics.

Unhappy with DFL priorities

Although he doesn’t explicitly say it, it sounds as if McAfee stood on the steps with the archbishop and a number of white conservative clergy in part because of a meeting with DFL leaders that outraged him.

When Republicans succeeded in putting two constitutional amendments on the ballot – one prohibiting same-sex marriage and the other requiring a photo ID to vote – DFL leadership convened a meeting of community leaders to talk about how those should be opposed. McAfee was invited.

At that meeting, McAfee said, it became clear that the party was going to put less effort and money into fighting the voting amendment than the marriage amendment.

“They weren’t going to put up much of a fight on the ID amendment because they thought they’d lose,’’ he said.

He left the meeting with contempt for the DFL. In McAfee’s view, the voting amendment was the crucial amendment because it would have repressed voting among poor blacks, the people he serves.

Meantime, in his view,  the  GLBT organizations are largely white and economically well off.

“We were getting sold out again,’’ said McAfee, who believes that for too long the DFL has assumed it would get black support and yet has, year after year, failed to deliver the help needed in his community.

The push for same-sex marriage this session underscores to McAfee that the poor black communities have been put at the back of the party’s priority line.  

 “They have the governor, they control the House and the Senate,” McAfee said. “Whatever they think is important they deal with. We’re left standing at the altar again. Same-sex marriage is not nearly as important to our community as poverty, unemployment, lack of education. We have always been better to the DFL than they have been to us.”

Outreach to GOP

He’s so disgusted with the DFL that McAfee has scheduled two meetings. First, he’s holding a meeting at New Salem with Somalis, Liberians and Kenyans to start to create a unified voice.

The next step, he said, will be to meet with the Republican Party. Is that party willing to reach out to communities of color, communities filled with social conservatives?

McAfee doesn’t expect immediate changes within the GOP. But, he said, Republicans do have to understand that they must begin to appeal to minority groups if they are to succeed at the polls. There are common needs and common values, he said.

“We have a state of emergency in our community,” he said. “We have to do something differently.” 

Laughing, he did say, he understands that there can be discomfort in new alliances. When he stood with many of those conservative white pastors, “I felt like a fish out of water.’’

For all the anger he feels toward the DFL, the push for gay marriage, and the charges that he’s intolerant and homophobic, McAfee points out he really did little to fight gay marriage. He didn’t go from black church to black church, pushing for those congregations to fight the changes. He didn’t even bring pressure to bear on the two black DFL senators, Jeff Hayden and Bobby Joe Champion, whose district includes New Salem, both of whom support same-sex marriage. 

“I told him [Champion] that if gay people helped get him elected, I understand,” said McAfee. “I told him, ‘You’re elected to represent all the people in your district. I’m the preacher.’ ”

 And through all of this, McAfee said the fundamental mission of his church is unchanged.

 “Our mission is to feed the hungry, clothe the naked and visit the sick and those in prison,’’ he said. “We don’t ask a person about their sexuality when they come to our door. We don’t ask about their sexuality when we visit at a nursing home or a prison. And we don’t ask about their sexuality when we’re handing out chickens.’’

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23 Comments

  1. So he’s now embracing the GOP

    which made the voting amendment one of it’s biggest priorities?

  2. Tartuffe

    For a man who preaches the Bible, you would think he would have heard of non-violence and turning the other cheek. Sadly, what he preaches is cherry-picking and hypocrisy.

  3. Working across difference

    There are LGBT people, and of course many, many who are allies to the LGBT community, who are also working daily – right now – throughout the Twin Cities, and Minnesota, and nationally to overcome the racial equity gaps that Pastor McAfee clearly calls out.

    Sometimes we in the LGBT advocacy arena have had to set aside the places where we disagree, so that we can work towards a more equitable future for all of Minnesotans. I hope Pastor McAfee comes to understand that that the black community has allies in the LGBTQA community. We’re here, we’re (sometimes) queer, and we’re working in some effective coalitions together!

    Pastor McAfee is welcome to join in, though when we are making common cause to move Minnesota from worst to first in racial equity, other issues have to be left at the door. By all of us.

  4. Danger

    To be fair, I think he has some very valid points. But climbing into bed with some old, rich, white guys that think empathy is a sin? Fraught with peril for a man in his position…

  5. Terroristic threats

    “If you want to fight, you better know I don’t preach non-violence,” McAfee said. As retired police officer I believe that statement is a terroristic threat and he should be prosecuted. Everybody from Neinstedt to this guy are all frauds. I think it’s time we start looking at putting the the churches on the tax roll. If they want to be political, pay taxes like the rest of us, otherwise they can shut up and go back their churches. MN Statutes: 609.713 TERRORISTIC THREATS.
    Subdivision 1.Threaten violence; intent to terrorize.
    Whoever threatens, directly or indirectly, to commit any crime of violence with purpose to terrorize another……. His statement sounds like an indirect threat to commit violence on people.

  6. Well one would think…

    The proper approach for the pastor might be to remove his religion from his politics and vice versa. Then he may find that many of these conflicts disappear. Then again he’s shown he’s willing to make a deal with whomever to further his single issue advocacy, so its probably a long shot. Divide and and conquer, brought to you by the conservative movement, same as it ever was.

  7. In a snit, are we?

    Pastor McAfee is so mad about gay marriage that he is reaching out to the Republicans. Interesting tactic, since his ire with the Democrats was piqued by their failure to devote enough energy to defeating a top Republican priority.

    What does he expect? Does he think he Republicans will embrace the issues that are important to him other than opposing gay marriage (largely a done deal at this point, so the opposition isn’t going to amount to much)? Will they stop future attempts at voter suppression legislation? How about economic issues–will they support a raise in the minimum wage? Education–will they give up on bashing teachers’ unions, and support education changes that do not involve gutting city schools and turning them over to marginal charter school operators? Racial profiling? Other civil rights laws? Maybe he shouldn’t go there with them.

    Yes, he’s really going to show the DFL. He’ll get a few photo ops with opportunistic Republicans, maybe deliver the prayer at a conclave or two. Perhaps Katherine Kersten will decide he’s a “good one,” and give him favorable mention in one of her tirades for the Strib. After that, though, there’s nothing more. Enjoy your pique while you can, sir.

  8. ““But to call me homophobic because I preach the Bible, that’s simply wrong.”

    The Bible is homophobic. You preach it. Therefore….

  9. Good point Matt

    Seperating his religion from his politics. If we want our civil government based on somebody’s religious text or their interpretation of that text, who’s should we chose? Seems to me Paul in the Bible counsels the slave to be a good slave and accept his lot. I’m sure 150 years ago that text (Timothy?) was used to justify slavery. I’m sure that there are still white people clinging to that interpretation. I’d like to see at least one of these Biblical literalists say that they would like to see a secular, civil society with the widest possible acceptance and freedom for personal rights regardless of their own personal beliefs. That would surely justify their tax exempt status.

  10. Pastor – your proposed new buddies

    From the republican party want to limit even food stamps. I am sure that your parishioners do not approve of that position.

  11. The Bible Contains Seven Verses

    Which can arguably be interpreted to raise issues with GLBT folks (although none of them mention women, or transgendered folks, nor was there any understanding that there were anything but “straight” people in the world, 2,000 years ago).

    The Bible also contains more than 700 verses which speak of God’s love, command God’s people to act lovingly toward one another, and even command God’s people to love their enemies and pray for those who seem to be persecuting you.

    It would seem that, just lately, the concerns expressed by Pastor McAfee’s work is a little out of balance when compared to the Bible itself.

    I hope he will not be surprised, and, indeed, will be perceptive enough to realize, when he meets with the GOP leadership, that those folks are quite incapable of the empathy and compassion required to actually be ABLE to love others,…

    and that their only concern, as it is in every area of their lives, will be how he might provide THEM with monetary or political benefit.

    If he’s not willing to let them use him for their own purposes, their consultations will come to naught.

  12. Thank Goodness

    The abolitionists and Dr. King didn’t separate their politics from their religion. For both, their faith informed their politics, and we became a more perfect union.

    But when it comes to faith and politics, it all depends on whose ox is being gored this time.

    1. I might agree

      Were the faith that informed Dr. King and the abolitionists in anyway similar to the pernicious, narcissistic, self righteousness that informs the anti equality crowd. It is not, and I suspect the aforementioned would stand for the equality of all.

  13. Revelation and reason

    Good pastor, it is the Book of Revelation, not Revelations. 32 years at this? Really?

    So justice is really about who gets shafted the most? Based on this line of reasoning, how many LGBT people would need to be executed by the Nazis, beaten up on the playground, or commit suicide before their struggle would be equal to that of African Americans?

    No to non-violence? I guess MLK holds his head in his hands and weeps. (At least he’s in good company, because I sense Jesus is right along side him doing the same thing.)

  14. PAstor McAfee is consistent

    While I do not agree with his politics nor his Biblical readings, I respect that he has his own vlaeus and right to promote them.

    I think we need to go a bit further. Pastor McAfee is being consistent Doug. His politics are for racial and class equality. I hope once we legislate liberty for our gay brothers and sisters to be able to marry that we will fight as hard and rally as hard for ending racial disparities in school, and neighborhoods and in the economic engines of our community. After we pass marriage equality lets all get back to work on racial and economic equality and get BEHIND Pastor McAfee. Let’s listen to what he has to say and promote his agenda as progressives.

    In one way the marriage issue is a good rallying effort for progressives becuase it has minimal economic impacts on the state while expanding economic liberty and social freedoms to a rather small, but powerful consituency.

    Do folks realize that major funding for the Marraige Equality intiative came from wealthy gay Republicans who will quickly close ranks again on economic issues that imapct the black community? How many of these funders support Health Care Reform? How many of these ‘Progressives” are inconsistent in their politics, but we turn a blind eye to because they are supporting our cause now?

    I hope Doug Grow does an expose on these hypocrites of class and racial privielege just as he does for the DFL heretic that is Pastor McAfee, who is not a terrorist Kenneth. Can we all just be a little more civil please? It is called “rhetoric.”

    1. Well Said

      Peter, thanks for saying that. I very much disagree with Pr. McAfee on the marriage issue, but he has some very good points about the white establishment doing everything it can to ignore people of color.

      Look at this session. What do we have:

      – Gay marriage (great!)
      – Education funding (great!)
      – Top-tier income tax (great!)

      Now, what we don’t have:

      – Any sort of provision for closing the education gap
      – Transit funding

      Guess which of these is of more concern to most people in North Minneapolis.

      It is not a coincidence that the DFL was able to overcome monumental challenges to pass gay marriage but can’t fund transit by raising a simple metrro sales tax supported by 70% of Minnesotans.

      We keep telling people of color to get educated and get a job. And they get poor schools and no way to actually *get* to a job.

      Think folks in North might just be a *little* bit teed off about this?

      Oh yeah. Come with me on a trip through North and I’ll introduce you to some very frustrated people.

      Pr. McAfee is not wrong to look to Republicans. No, they won’t support his agenda, but do you think the DLF might respond if there’s a serious threat of North Minneapolis voting for Republican candidates? Frankly, I’d take a North Minneapolis Republican over most of the current legislators from the area. That person would at least have to respond to these issues to have any hope of reelection. Sen. Champion and Rep. Dehn seem to be the only legislators from the area willing to actually do something about equity.

      1. Why?

        I really don’t understand the hypothetical threat of North Minneapolis voting for Republican candidates. Why would that threat exist? Would the voters ignore the contempt the GOP has for people of color, disadvantaged people, and generally, anyone living in the core cities? Isn’t it more likely the disaffected voters would just stay home on election day?

        1. Because maybe, just maybe, not all Republicans are exactly alike?

          Really, do you find it so hard to imagine part of Minneapolis not voting DFL or Green.

          Has the DFL so blinded you to the ability for people from all walks of life to come together and accomplish something?

          We’ve had total DFL control at the capitol and as far as I can see, people of color are still getting the shaft. Same old, same old as far as low income people go Talk is cheap.

          1. Republicans

            The only evidence I’ve seen that supports your claim that all Republicans are not exactly alike has been the “defection” of a few of them to vote for same-sex marriage. The Republicans have very disciplined caucuses in the Legislature. A vote for one of them is a vote for all.

            The DFL has “blinded” me to nothing. The Republicans have no credibility on the bleating point of “coming together to accomplish something.” As we have seen, when Republicans are in control, it’s their way or the highway (once upon a time, it wasn’t like that, but welcome to 2013). When they are not in control, they make pitiful noises about how mean the Democrats are because they won’t try to “work” with them. The problem is, “working with them” means “adopting our agenda.”

            Yes, people of color are getting the shaft. If you think the Republicans would be an improvement, you must enjoy being shafted.

  15. Biblical be-attitudes aren’t too clear here….

    Who can say what J.C’s sexual orientation was? And if his choice were revealed, who would condemn him for it whatever may be his orientation?

    Judge no man seems the best way to go…get a life make a choice? Live and let live…

  16. Fundamentally …

    … if you don’t believe in same-sex marriage, then don’t enter into one. Others’ marriages are none of your business, and surely there are things in your own life that could use the attention.

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