As MN ACLU launches police-recording app, law enforcement officials worry it could escalate situations

MinnPost photo by Andy Mannix
The ACLU’s Jana Kooren demonstrating the app at the organization's headquarters in St. Paul during Friday morning's press conference.

The Minnesota chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union launched a new app Friday morning designed to make it easier for citizens to record interactions with cops — technology that some law enforcement representatives fear could escalate tensions between the public and police.

The app, “Mobile Justice MN,” allows users to record incidents, footage of which is sent directly to the ACLU as a means of preserving evidence. It also features a “witness function,” which alerts other users to an incident in progress and asks them to flock to the location. 

“We’re experiencing a national moment in this country right now where communities all over the nation are demanding accountability,” said Teresa Nelson, legal director for the ACLU, at a press conference in St. Paul. “This app will add another layer to that accountability.”

The technology comes in the aftermath of high-profile incidents around the country, such as the deaths of Michael Brown and Freddie Gray during encounters with police. “I think it’s pretty clear that there have been some pretty serious issues of police misconduct in Minnesota and across the country,” said Nelson.

Yet some police officials in Minnesota have taken issue with the app, worrying that the witness function could do more harm than good, escalating situations by drawing crowds. 

“If you create a crowd, it is possible that the crowd could turn on an officer,” said Andy Skoogman, spokesman for the Minnesota Chiefs of Police Association. “The mere presence of the crowd could easily make the officer feel intimidated which can quickly increase the tension of the interaction. We have seen such a scenario play out many times.” 

A tool, not a solution

The ACLU released identical apps in several states last year. It will be available in 10 more states today. More than 250,000 people have already downloaded it nationwide, said Nelson. (MinnPost CEO Joel Kramer is on the Board of Directors of the ACLU of Minnesota; he had no involvement in this story.)

Using cell phones to record police isn’t a new concept. Many of the incidents that have captured national attention and inspired protests in recent years started with viral videos, such as the case of a Eric Garner, who died after being put in a chokehold by police in Staten Island in the summer of 2014. The app will simply streamline the process of recording these types of incidents and getting video into the hands of the ACLU’s attorneys, said Nelson.

The app, which is available starting today, allows a user to begin recording an incident with the tap of a button. Once the recording is completed, the file goes straight to the ACLU, where staff will review it for misconduct and retain it for a year. The user then has the option to file a report with the ACLU.

If there is suspicion of misconduct, ACLU staff will follow up with the sender, and the organization will determine the appropriate course of action. This could mean posting it to the Internet to increase public awareness or using it as evidence in a lawsuit, though Nelson noted the latter hasn’t happened in other states to date.

Nelson acknowledged video isn’t a cure-all — users could selectively film and not show full context of an incident — but it provides supplementary evidence to witness accounts and a powerful tool for citizens facing unfair treatment from law enforcement.

“The purpose of this is to empower people,” she said. “This puts the power in the hands of individuals, as opposed to video that’s captured by police.” 

Mobile Justice MN app features:

  • Record allows individuals to capture exchanges with police officers and other law enforcement officials in audio and video files that are automatically sent to the ACLU of Minnesota.
  • Witness Notifies app users when another app user is recording a police stop, giving them an opportunity to go to the location they are currently at to observe the interaction. Notifications are only received when the person recording has opted to broadcast their location.
  • Report allows the app user to complete an incident report and send it directly to the ACLU for review.
  • Know Your Rights provides an overview of what rights protect you when you are stopped by law enforcement officers.
Source: ACLU of Minnesota

‘It will make the scene unsafe’

The Minneapolis and St. Paul police unions released a joint statement Friday criticizing the app, arguing the witness function “threatens public safety” by calling others to the scene. The app doesn’t send these other users a video, so witnesses wouldn’t have any context to the incident. 

“Encouraging people to flock to an unsecure and possibly dangerous police incident is not responsible or logical. It will make the scene unsafe for citizens, victims, suspects and officers,” said St. Paul Police Federation Union President David Titus. “Some who use this app will not have the best intentions, adding unnecessary fuel to already combustible situations. The [ACLU] app may require a larger police presence to de-escalate some situations, an outcome neither law enforcement nor the community desire.”  

A screen shot of the Mobile Justice MN app.
Minnesota chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union
A screen shot of the Mobile Justice MN app.

Nelson said no such issues have occurred in other states where people use the app, and she doesn’t “have any reason to believe that this will create any sort of a mob scene” here. 

The Minneapolis police department wouldn’t comment on the specifics of the app, but spokesman John Elder said in a statement that officers are already accustomed to working under surveillance from cell phones and public or private cameras. He also noted that the city is in the process of rolling out a police body cam program, expected to begin early next year, which will provide more visual evidence of how police interact with the public. A St. Paul city spokesman said he’d just become aware of the app and offered no comment.

Skoogman, of the chiefs association, said he supports the advent of more video as a means of transparency and its ability to highlight the good work of officers. “From that standpoint, we welcome the new technology delivered thru this app,” he said.

But he also took issue with the rhetoric in launching the app, particularly the notion that user recordings are sent directly to the ACLU “so that it can’t be destroyed.”

“The implication is that law enforcement in Minnesota is currently destroying such evidence,” he said. “That is simply false.”

Nelson disagreed. She pointed to the case of Andrew Henderson, who Ramsey County sheriff’s deputies arrested in Little Canada three years ago after he taped them and paramedics detaining a drunk person. Henderson was charged with misdemeanors for disorderly conduct and interfering with an ambulance crew, but both counts were later dropped. The cops confiscated Henderson’s camera, and when he got it back, he said the footage had been erased.

Nelson also cited the 2008 Republican National Convention in St. Paul, during which officers seized cameras from several filmmakers and journalists. “It does happen,” she said.

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Comments (9)

  1. Submitted by Henk Tobias on 11/13/2015 - 04:57 pm.

    Before all this started

    I used to watch the program called Cops. It was pretty obvious to me then that Police really didn’t need any help in escalating situations. Their go to tactic was to back people into a corner and tackle them. Drunk, stoned or mentally ill, it didn’t matter, they’d push and push until something gave. I thought it was laziness and not wanting to spend a lot of time trying to work through a problem, now I wonder if its just not some kind of bullying gene or power trip.

    Either way I’m won’t be surprised if this app doesn’t escalate things. After all, its focused on the masters of escalation.

    • Submitted by Greg Kapphahn on 11/13/2015 - 05:59 pm.

      Believe It or Not That’s the Way They’re Trained

      In a lot of places cops get approximately ZERO training about how to DE-escalate situations and calm people down (my local police are an exception, thankfully).

      LOT’S of officers are trained that the first thing they should do upon arrival is start shouting orders in order to get everyone and everything under control,…

      even if the situation is calm when they arrive,…

      which for many of them means any possibly guilty parties on the floor or the ground,…

      tasered (or clubbed), if there’s any hesitation,…

      handcuffed, not moving and silent,…

      i.e. “compliant” and “no longer threatening,”…

      though these approaches are likely to be softened considerably in higher class, white neighborhoods.

  2. Submitted by John Ferman on 11/14/2015 - 11:55 am.

    Mobile Justice MN

    Went to App Store and Mobile Justice is available only for Michigan, Missouri, and Mississippi in the ‘M’ group of States. Using just Mobill Justice alone discloses the whole alphabet of States for which available. Maybe coming, when. Is the a e-paper that acts like a user guide?

  3. Submitted by John Ferman on 11/14/2015 - 04:26 pm.

    Mobile Justice – Minnesota

    A second try moments ago found a “mobile justice – minnesoata” turned out to be “Understanding Human Trafficing” for $5.99.. Maybe this app is not for iPhones and not available in the Apple Apps.

  4. Submitted by Tom Anderson on 11/14/2015 - 07:11 pm.

    This idea is brilliant!

    Evidence from a crime scene is immediately transferred outside the chain of custody making the evidence unusable in court as well as any recorded statements. And jury pools will be reduced drastically as thousands (or more) of people will be exposed to every case. The thought of hundreds of people showing up to help video a mass shooting or hostage situation is every criminals dream as admissible evidence is contaminated almost immediately. I realize that texting while driving in Minnesota is illegal, but can we video ourselves prior to being pulled over or questioned by police?

    • Submitted by Dan Hintz on 11/16/2015 - 09:19 am.


      The arguments here are based on a misunderstanding of the law.

      If there was a single video/DVD recording that was being passed around, then chain-of-custody would be an issue. But as long as the original recording can be authenticated, the fact that there are copies or that the video was made available online is of no consequence.

      This app will not contaminate any evidence nor have any effect whatsoever on the admissibility of evidence.

  5. Submitted by Jackson Cage on 11/16/2015 - 09:00 am.

    Excellent points Tom!

    I didn’t notice….if there’s “misconduct” on the part of the civilian, what will the ACLU do with that recording?

    The obvious bias and lack of any objectivity in this story is pretty disturbing. For instance, this reporter keeps citing the Michael Brown case as an incident that supports the use of this app. Given the final conclusions in that case, I wouldn’t be using that one as a basis for my argument. That’s just sloppy, lazy reporting. And so is the statement from the ACLU’s legal director, regarding Andrew Henderson. What about the rights of the accused to NOT be recorded by some unknown 3rd party? Is it OK for Henderson to race home, post the video on Facebook to mock and ridicule the drunk? I guess these are issues that aren’t important in our zeal to go after the “murdering cops”.


  6. Submitted by Leonard Foonimin on 11/16/2015 - 10:05 am.

    a modest suggestion …

    everyone that thinks this is another terrible idea should simply download the app and video a lot of innocuous situations so as to overload the ACLU’s video capability.

  7. Submitted by Mike Tusken on 11/17/2015 - 04:11 pm.

    Truth be told…

    Truth be told, the app will be rarely used and most likely will not attract masses of people to the scene of a police contact. However, it will show the ACLU what we see in law enforcement everyday; good officers having respectful, mundane contacts with the public which look anything but what people see on COPS. Body camera video in our department time and time again show officers acting with great restraint and judgment. Officers in this day and age assume they are being videotaped and this app will not vastly change how police interact with the public. I’m biased but I am proud of how police handle everyday scrutiny and will risk their lives at a moments notice for a stranger. We are not perfect but the overwhelming majority take personal freedoms and public safety as a calling not a mere job. Thank law enforcement for your countless selfless acts of committed service to your communities; the majority of citizens appreciate you!

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