Gov. Tim Walz
Gov. Tim Walz speaking about his relationship with Senate Majority Leader Paul Gazelka during Friday's press conference: “It’s a relationship that I value. It has become a little bit heated, obviously we’re in an election year.” Credit: MinnPost photo by Peter Callaghan

The primary difference between traditional couples counseling and what went on last week between Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz and Senate Majority Leader Paul Gazelka, leader of the Minnesota Senate GOP, is that couples counseling doesn’t usually play out in front of the press and public.

That might also explain why the former is sometimes successful and why the latter may not be.

Walz and Gazelka — respectively the highest-ranking elected DFLer and Republican in state government (though DFL House Speaker Melissa Hortman might take exception) — spent the weeks before yet-another special session exchanging open letters with increasing levels of vitriol. Then, last Friday, they held an in-person session that led both to soften their rhetoric, a little.

It wasn’t always this way. Both politicians cited better time after Friday’s heart-to-heart, referring to what both consider the highlight of their short-but-stormy relationship: the May 2019 agreement between Walz, Gazelka and Hortman to snatch a budget deal from the jaws of a government shutdown.

But that was before COVID-19, before Walz’s declaration of a peacetime emergency, before the five extensions of that emergency, before the three Senate votes to rescind that emergency, before the homicide of George Floyd, before the riots and looting that were intertwined with the protests, before a statue of Christopher Columbus was toppled on the Capitol campus and — perhaps most importantly — before the full-flower of the 2020 election campaign.

Now, what had been a surprisingly good relationship between the two men has soured, with Gazelka ratcheting up his criticism of the DFL governor and Walz getting increasingly frustrated.

The animosity was revealed most conspicuously in the fight over emergency powers. While the GOP went along in the first month or two, Republicans have since been arguing that the emergency is over, even if the pandemic is still around, and that the state has the resources it needs to meet any surge in cases. For his part, Walz points out that President Donald Trump and all 50 governors have ongoing states of emergency that give them the power to issue executive orders to restrict the economy, secure supplies, provide testing and contact tracing and even order that people wear masks inside public places.

The argument has gone on for months, but it manifested itself again in late August with the start of what might be called the Battle of the Open Letters.

On August 28, Gazelka sent a letter to Walz and posted it on Twitter [PDF]. In it he asked the governor to set up guidelines to determine when the emergency is over. “We have flattened the curve, no Minnesotan has been denied necessary medical treatment, and, thankfully, our hospitals have not needed to use their surge capacity,” Gazelka wrote, “There is no longer an emergency.”

On Wednesday, Walz responded — or, at least his office responded — with the proverbial strongly worded letter. “At the same time that you claim the legislature is not involved enough in the process, you neglect to attend many of these critical informational and decision-making meetings,” it stated.

“The Governor wants to work together across party lines to protect the health of Minnesotans, but you make that difficult when you choose not to attend critically important meetings focused on our state’s pandemic response efforts.”

The letter [PDF] also specifically addressed Gazelka’s comment on there was no longer an emergency: “Although President Trump and the Governor do not agree on much, even the President agrees that we remain in a state of emergency.” 

But here’s the crushing thing about the letter that might be lost on normal Minnesotans: It didn’t come from Walz but rather from his chief of state, Chris Schmitter.

In government, there are protocols that elected officials really care about (even if most people don’t). Top people meet and correspond with top people; seconds-in-command deal with seconds-in-command, agency commissioners deal with legislative committee chairs.

It was a slight that did not go unnoticed. “Since I addressed my original letter to you, our elected state leader, it’s telling that you delegated responsibility of a response to someone else,” Gazelka wrote Friday [PDF]. Many of the meetings Gazelka missed, he said, did not involve Walz but his staff and commissioners. As such, Gazelka sent his staff.

Senate Majority Leader Paul Gazelka
[image_credit]MinnPost photo by Peter Callaghan[/image_credit][image_caption]Senate Majority Leader Paul Gazelka: “The working relationship between myself and the governor is absolutely still salvageable.”[/image_caption]
“Which brings me to the original — and yet to be answered — question of my August 28 letter: What criteria will be used in determining when the COVID-19 peacetime emergency declaration will be rescinded?” Gazelka wrote. “Minnesotans expect our meeting today to focus on your answer to that question and not on my attendance record at staff briefings after you have taken unilateral actions. While I’m focused on getting our kids back into school safely and keeping order in our streets, you’re focused on my attendance record at your staff briefings.”

That was the set-up for a closed-door meeting at the state Capitol Friday, a relatively rare occurrence under pandemic social distancing.

After about 40 minutes, Gazelka emerged from the meeting in a better mood than his pre-meeting letter might have predicted. “I will say that it was productive,” Gazelka said of the meeting. “The emergency powers have definitely brought a divide between us.”

In the meeting, the two tried to examine what led to the divide and how they might work better together, he said. “The working relationship between myself and the governor is absolutely still salvageable,” Gazelka said. But the letters they exchanged “should have told him that things aren’t well but the conversation today was still productive.”

Walz came out after the majority leader, for his own gaggle with reporters. “It was a great conversation,” he said of the chat. “It’s a relationship that I value. It has become a little bit heated, obviously we’re in an election year. But this meeting was to reinforce that mutual respect we have for one another.”

Hortman said Friday she has a good working relationship with both, also citing the good old days of the 2019 budget deal. She cited the open letter exchange as evidence that social media allows people to say things about other people that they would never say in person.

“In this line of work, we’re doing difficult things with directly opposite ideologies and it’s natural for there to be some tension,” Hortman said. “But I think they’re both trying to do what is best for Minnesota, coming from the perspectives that they’re coming from.”

Threat to commissioners looms

So does any of this matter? The Minnesota Legislature is set to, once again, meet in special session on Friday with the same agenda as in the August session — and the same meager odds of getting any of it done.

A multi-billion-dollar bonding package, a suite of tax cuts, a backfilling of the budget for state prisons and the state patrol. All are unfinished business from the 2020 regular session that escaped legislative agreement in June, in July and in August special sessions.

And even if there was agreement, state budget office officials say it might not be prudent to make changes to state’s finances while a trip to the bond market is still fresh. This “quiet time” doesn’t expire until Sept. 19, and Walz and lawmakers say they could come to an agreement in principle this week on legislation but not pass bills into law until later in the month.

Hortman said it might also be possible to pass bills with a delayed implementation date outside the quiet time period. Either way, she said she thinks the state will end September with a bonding bill, a small tax package and some small spending increases for agencies pressed by the pandemic, such as corrections and the state patrol.

That could be a big deal because past agreements have been scuttled by a familiar conflict: the governor’s emergency powers.

So why meet at all?

Gov. Tim Walz has disputed that he is required by state emergency powers law to convene the Legislature each time he extends his declaration of peacetime emergency by 30 days, which is set to happen at the end of this week. But he has done so to give lawmakers a chance to overrule his emergency declaration (knowing that with the House controlled by fellow DFLers, it won’t)

So far, the GOP-controlled Senate has voted to rescind the emergency declaration three times; the DFL-controlled House, which supports the governor, has blocked it three times.

Friday will make it four.

But Gazelka and his Senate majority are not as powerless as Republicans sometimes suggest. During the August special session, the Senate voted to not-confirm one of Walz’s commissioners, and after a series of committee grillings of a few more Walz appointees, there remains a threat that more agency heads will be not-confirmed.

Such a move isn’t just an expression of opinion. It removes the appointee from their job, as was the case with Labor and Industry Commissioner Nancy Leppink in August. The primary target this time around could be Commerce Commissioner Steve Kelly.

When asked about it Friday, Gazelka said he would not name specific commissioners and that a decision had not yet been made about how or whether to proceed. Walz said he will try to talk Gazelka out of it, and the governor was scheduled to meet again with legislative leaders on Wednesday morning.

“We briefly discussed it. We know it’s there. I think it’s for the next conversation,” Walz said Friday. “I asked, ‘What do we need to do to make sure we’re able to get these folks confirmed.’ They need to do their job. I need them in the middle of all of this and that uncertainty is not helpful.”

Hortman, a bystander in the confirmation process, which is a Senate duty, said the vote to not-confirm Leppink angered her because of its personal impact on the former commissioner and because she was fired for doing her job, which is to protect workers. But she acknowledges that both parties have used the weapon, with two GOP commissioners and two DFL commissioners losing their jobs over the last several decades.

“It’s four women but the score is 2-to-2. Can we stop doing this to individual human beings because we disagree with each other about politics?” Hortman said.

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19 Comments

  1. Gazelka thinks Minnesota has flattened the curve and the emergency is over? The emergency is not over until all Minnesotans wear their masks and we get our case numbers down, as deaths are not the only bad outcome.

    Gazelka is regularly seen in crowded indoor spaces, encouraging the mask refuseniks who continue to spread the disease. Pretending the emergency is over simply does not cut it.

    A governor who has carefully guided through a minefield full of danger should not engage with a reckless, easily offended critic who has no ideas to move the state in a positive direction. In two months, if this ends up being a repeat of 2018 with a huge turnout when Democrats flipped the House, Gazelka may find himself the new Minority Leader who needs to play nice with DFL.

  2. No, I don’t think it will have any effect at all. How could it? Republican hostility, intransigents, and tendencies to try to nullify any elections they don’t win have never caused a problem before, why should they now? Smoooooooth sailing is all I see ahead.

  3. Emergencies need to have time limits. Our system never contemplated that the Governor or President can govern by fiat indefinitely. Covid is going to be with us for an extended period. It’s time to make the house and senate equal partners with the Governor in deciding what to do.

    1. Mike, Pandemic’s aren’t political events, they’re natural disasters, no matter how long they last. This isn’t about “representation” it’s about effective planning and response. Republican disregard for science, organization, planning, human life and and health care make them uniquely unqualified to govern in an emergency. Republicans are led by a president who’s only durable strategy for dealing with any crises of any kind is to lie about it, and his lies get people killed.

      If Republicans had paid attention and listened to scientists rather than played debate games and ignored science they would have heard the experts who were telling us back in Feb that this crises was going to last for a year or more. Instead they kept trying to follow their presidents declarations that the crises either didn’t exist, or was over. Instead taking Walz to court in another failed attempt to nullify the election and remove his executive powers, they could have made an effort to connect with reality and participate constructively.

      This crises has not given Walz indefinite or unlimited powers, he has certain emergency powers related to the pandemic, and thus far he’s used those powers within reason. EVERYTHING else from the budget to crime legislation and bonding is subject to normal legislative process. The fact that Republicans want stall EVERYHING else in order to attack Walz’s emergency powers tells us this isn’t about his emergency powers, it’s just normal Republican divisive politics. Reasonable people in a crises like this would let the Governor do his job while they did theirs… but we’re not dealing with reasonable people.

    2. Mike, we can’t decide ahead of time how long an emergency lasts. We are in an emergency, a pandemic, even. If we were not we would all be in school and dining out and going to bars and concerts without the daily coronavirus reports hitting my inbox every afternoon. So it is inaccurate to say Walz is operating by fiat. We are in the midst of a crisis. This is not normal.

      Gazelka is not following what scientists say we must do. He and his ilk are central to the problem and have offered nothing in the way of solutions. Walz is risking his political life by continuing to do the right thing for the state, even against the ire of petty Republicans.

      Tell me, if you were governor, would you give up control to a pack of snake oil salesmen who refuse to even admit that we are in an emergency? Walz’ tough stand is giving us a fighting chance, the only really hope we have. Gazelka could be a much bigger player in this story but he lacks the imagination or the brains or the humility.

    3. It seems to me that with respect to the emergency powers, the Governor is treating the state Senate and House as equal partners, it’s just that Republicans haven’t been able to make the case that the governor has over stepped, and so they keep getting outvoted. That’s how democracy works- majority rule, and among the three groups cited- the Governor & House are outvoting the Senate 2-1.

      Maybe Sen. Gazelka should spend less time whining and trying to gum up the whole government, and more time coming up with positive suggestions to mitigate the pandemic emergency.

  4. I think the Repub party’s deteriorating relationship with the welfare of the state of Minnesota will be more likely to tube the next pro-forma special session. Since it is political poison, I hope Gazelka & Co. keep holding everything hostage to his laments over the existence of a Dem governor who has the effrontery to use statutory emergency powers in a way that the majority of Minnesotans overwhelmingly approve. That our MN Repubs have no concerns that Trumpolini has continued his Covid-19 emergency declaration is merely icing on the hypocrisy cake!

    So, please proceed, Repub Leaders Gazelka and Daudt….torpedo the bonding bill once again and throw out another commissioner in your fit of offended “conservative” pique!

  5. The governor was the congressman for the first district for a long time.

    His voting record earned him high marks with the NRA, and caused him to be more like a blue dog than a liberal Democrat.

    The policies he advocated were not extreme and he rarely was seen in an angry debate or polemic the whole time he served in Congress. In fact, the Stock Act, which was his answer to the problem of elected reps who were also stock market players, served both parties.

    The problem involved members of Congress who were also in Congressional committees that could trade on inside information or results of upcoming legislation, thereby taking selfish (and illegal) advantage of their positions.

    Walz’s background in education and his humble style allowed him to be re-elected to a very conservative 1st district. His civility was always present– I can’t remember him being confrontational or zealous in his speech.

    Since he became our governor, Walz has been (IMO) steady and thoughtful in his appointments, clear and forthright in his official actions, and reasonable in his politics. I think many would agree, he’s still not much more “leftist” than Arnie Carlson.

    AND YET, the MN Republicans can’t even talk to him without grievance and anger.

    We all know the Republicans would like to take over the governorship, but their excuses for treating Walz like “the help” are nothing but shameful responses to the state’s needs. Governor Walz is the Rs best chance to help the state. Republicans, stop the annoying posturing. You could easily work with this administration, if you tried.

  6. And now Gazelka, the great man of science that he is, has joined with Daudt to urge the Big Ten to resume its’ football season.

    We hire highly accomplished professionals through lengthy hiring processes to put in place the best group possible to run the U of M, a critical resource to our state’s success.

    And now we have an insurance salesman and a used car sales manager who both achieved elected office in districts where navigating party politics just about insures electoral success, suddenly endowed with the perspective and intellect to overrule the qualified folks we have chartered to run the U of M.

    Don’t these guys have anything better to do?

    Lead, follow or get out of the way…

    1. I started college at The Ohio State University in the fall of 1971, and finished grad school there in 1979. I was able to attend every home football game for eight years. After career and kids, with my second daughter attending the U of M, I was able to catch a few more games at the Dome and then TCF Bank stadium. Game days and nights were wild in 1971, and my more recent experiences watching the Gophers suggests that nothing much has changed.

      When I heard that Mr. Gazelka was advocating that the Big Ten play ball this fall, My first thought was that he either was naive and had not attended a large university, or was being sadistic. Either way, neither is good leadership, and will get people killed. Perhaps Gazelka should talk with the Governor of South Dakota to see how she is dealing with the fact that her decision to have a motorcycle rally led to death for some, illness for thousands, and millions of dollars in unnecessary medical expenses. That is not leadership.

  7. Gazelka is the kid who wants to take his ball and go home. He is playing politics, and playing hard ball, and he’s playing with the health of Minnesotans in the process. No matter what his opinion is about masks, there is an actual crisis underway in our state and our nation. He is doing no one a favor by bringing his attitude and behavior down to the level of those citizens who would rather not be inconvenienced by COVID-19 restrictions, in spite of the fact that people continue to die of it and “normal” continues to get pushed farther and farther off toward the horizon.

    Gazelka’s job is not to dumb down and follow but to buck up and lead.

    Walz is still in emergency mode because there is still an emergency across the land, even if folks in Gull Lake want to pretend there isn’t. Why in the world would Walz give up the responsibility to lead to someone who won’t even admit that there’s an emergency in our state?

    I hear the clue phone ringing. Mr. Gazelka, it’s for you.

  8. Now that we know Donald lied about what he knew about Covid, that he knew it was going to be tough to fight and was “five times” more deadly than the flu, (its all on tape) I wonder if his faithful followers, like Gazelka, will finally decide to start taking it seriously.

  9. I, for one, am glad for Gov. Walz.and support his continued effort to protect us.
    I’m also grateful for the information, every day, that MinnPost provides, and the resources from links (Thank you very much Mr Osterholm).
    I think that I have a pretty good understanding of the science, and I can’t help but feel that Sen Gazelka chooses to dismiss some of what’s happening; safety of our kids going to school indeed. 200 new cases at Winona State?

  10. Someone has to provide leadership in this multifaceted crisis. Trump has lied to the people of America and shifted responsibility to the states: so much for him being a leader. Gazelka fights the cheap and readily available preventative public health measures recommended by all credible epidemiologists and infectious disease specialists: so much for him being a leader. Typical of Republican style, since leadership is not a useful competency, they resort to lawsuits, fear, distraction and efforts that actually hurt their own constituients. And as if masochism is rational, the 36 percent loves it. God Bless America, but remember what is real, healthy, reasonable and effective in this time: support the governor and vote for candidates from the D party. Be safe and be well.

  11. What is so wrong with developing some criteria as to when the emergency is over? First we were told it was to flatten the curve and not overwhelm the health system. That goal was achieved. Now it seems that the emergency will not be over until there is a vaccine? Is that the official stance? If it is then it could be debated.

    1. We kind of have that. Remember the governor doing is presentation with the dials and how they could turn forward or backwards? The Dial Back Dashboard shows five different indicators that are being tracked to monitor how the virus is spreading. Of those five, three are currently in the “caution” range – https://mn.gov/covid19/data/response-prep/dial-back-dashboard.jsp

      So long as that is the case, we can’t say the emergency is over.

  12. I watched the Republican performance at the capital yesterday on TV. One Republican after another got up and declared that the ONLY reason they were there is to cast a vote to end Walz’s emergency powers, that’s it.

    Now this admission actually reveals several problems with Republican legislators. For one thing, it tells us that their claims to want to “work” with Democrats and get things done cooperatively are not honest claims… as usual. If you want to work together and get things done… then do it, don’t refuse to do it until you nullify Walz’s executive powers. So Republicans kill the bonding bill, simply to spite Democrats… and they think we’ll trust them to work with “us” in the future?

    The problem is that for decades all we from Republicans is bait and switch. I don’t know about anyone else around here but I don’t trust Republican leaders who claim that they’ll continue to address the pandemic crises once emergency powers are rescinded. I have seen Republican’s work with a Democratic governor in decades. Yes, they “cooperated” at the start of the crises but they only did that because they had no choice.

    We know they don’t believe in science, now it’s beginning to sound like the don’t even believe in expertise of any kind. So you know that if the emergency powers are rescinded we can predict that Republicans will simply tie up, stall , and otherwise try to roll back or obstruct rational and informed attempts to control the spread of COVID infection. They can promise NOT to do that all they want but we know who we’re dealing with. These are the same people who are firing Walz appointments all over the place because they can’t abide compromise.

    Another obvious problem is that while Republicans claim they just want to end the “emergency”, not the COVID response, They aren’t giving us ANY ideas or examples of what they want to do differently OTHER THAN stop trying to control the spread of the virus. All of these demands to “open up” are nothing but demands to abandon COVID response and control. The idea that MN Republicans are different from Florida, or Arizona, or Texas Republicans is obtuse. 144 people died of COVID yesterday… yeah, let’s be like Texas. If Republicans were serious about this, instead of simply demanding votes to end emergency powers (votes that they know they will lose), they ask to negotiate or just discuss the ongoing containment policies and strategies they will support, when those powers are no longer in place. They would offer to cooperate on legislation that would replace the emergency powers BEFORE those powers are rescinded.

    Clearly Republicans just want to return to a scenario wherein they can just resume their fights and obstructions and attempts to nullify not just Walz’s emergency powers, but his election. This has been the Republican process since they lost to Clinton in the 90’s.

  13. The title – deteriorating relationship. Let’s look at what is happening in a different light.

    A state of emergency has been declared in every state and nationally due to the coronavirus. It looks differently in different places. In an emergency, decisions need to be made fast. When violence broke out in the Twin Cities, it was important to make quick decisions. Can that happen if a group of people (a city council or a legislature) demand to have a say? No, in emergencies you need a stand-up leader who makes decisions and then explains them. Walz has made decisive decisions and explained them.

    Due to Trump, Republicans want to pretend that the worst impact of the pandemic is over. It hasn’t. States that open up too quickly have seen their infection rates go up and their small businesses open with little business, which will result in massive business closures. Walz has done well in a really difficult situation, for which he has received credit and enhanced the standing of his party. Republicans are angry about this and taking revenge by not doing their job – dealing with bonding – and firing commissioners.

    It is like with an insecure man who seeing his better half shine, lashes out in anger, saying “she made me do it.” One could call that a “deteriorating relationship” or perhaps consider how much each side is investing in the relationship.

    Last year, the governor and leaders of the two houses of the legislature were able to make a deal, which left the House minority leader very unhappy. This year, in large part due to the malign influence of Trump and the stress of an tough election, Republicans cannot agree to do the normal work and deal with the emergency. Do they need to experience a repeat of 2018, where they lost the house for being obstructive? This time will the senate flip? Time will tell.

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